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MOD NOTE: TROPES BLANKET-BANNED FROM HAVING VIDEO EXAMPLES:


It's been discussed a lot at the Video Uploading thread that a lot of poor videos are slipping through the cracks, and that a clean-up effort is necessary if we are to combat the problem.

Common issues are:

  • Videos spoiling major events from a work
  • Videos not actually fitting the trope they're attached to
  • Videos in which the important part doesn't happen until halfway through, with the length being ultimately pointless
  • Videos that use the entire work, breaking copyright; this can be done either with one video showcasing an entire short video, or multiple videos that add up to using the entire work in piecemeal.
  • Videos lacking the proper media source, or any media source at all.
  • General quality problems, like audio issues or artifacting.

Videos must also be actual videos — a video file containing a static image or slideshow (e.g. a sequence of comic panels) should not be approved.

So, we've got our work cut out for us; but this is at least a place to discuss problems and come to solutions.

Some helpful links:

Please take video moderation requests to this thread.

Edited by WarJay77 on Nov 19th 2024 at 9:27:05 AM

ReynTime250 Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#1051: Oct 17th 2020 at 10:05:40 AM

From what I can see in the description, the approved one does use the word piss, where as mine that got rejected didn't have that word in it.

The admin that checks mine is Colerich 333 but I don't know if he's the only admin that checks for video uploads.

Edited by ReynTime250 on Oct 17th 2020 at 6:05:56 PM

acrobox Since: Nov, 2010
#1052: Oct 17th 2020 at 10:12:43 AM

just chiming in to second the idea of featured videos being subject to notoriety and/or crowner.

As it is its just the latest person to click the featured video button, which can bury some more iconic video examples.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#1053: Oct 17th 2020 at 10:14:19 AM

Remember though, this site operates on a policy of no notability standards, so being concerned over "notable" video examples being the first to play can easily get very sticky. Videos for more obscure works get ignored as is. Sometimes them being the first video to play is better to add more variety to the site, rather than covering everything in "popular" ones.

Edited by WarJay77 on Oct 17th 2020 at 1:15:03 PM

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#1054: Oct 17th 2020 at 10:30:22 AM

We shouldn't worry about "iconic" examples getting buried because we shouldn't consider examples more "iconic" than others. All we care is if they actually fit the trope, just like with text examples. (Plus most tropes have only three or so videos and I usually check most of them out, so it's unlikely they'll get buried unless it's a fairly popular trope for videos like Big Bad.)

Edited by mightymewtron on Oct 17th 2020 at 1:30:34 PM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
acrobox Since: Nov, 2010
antenna_ears from California Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#1056: Oct 18th 2020 at 7:29:28 PM

Adding to this, videos that are the source of memetic mutation get incredible notoriety already. See the video example for Obviously Not Fine (in addition to being the Trope Namer).

Edited by antenna_ears on Oct 18th 2020 at 7:30:56 AM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#1057: Oct 18th 2020 at 7:33:17 PM

Yeah, that's the thing. Those are already the ones people watch, with the other ones seeming to go generally unwatched or at least unrated. We don't need to bury the obscure ones even more by enforcing a notoriety standard on the Featured Video.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Florestan Since: May, 2015
#1058: Oct 18th 2020 at 8:44:09 PM

I'm thinking that the first video on Plummet Perspective, from the Wiley E. Coyote cartoon, does not illustrate that trope. Plummet Perspective is when a person hangs on onto a ledge, and an object falls down, to emphasize just how great the height is. In the first video Wiley E. Coyote himself plunges down, after hanging a bit in the air (this actually illustrates Gravity Is a Harsh Mistress). (The second video, where the rope falls down, might qualify.)

acrobox Since: Nov, 2010
#1059: Oct 18th 2020 at 9:07:52 PM

Okay i fully take back 'notoriety.'

That said, as the first video that autoplays its essentially the same role as the trope image. Is a crowner/image pickin/featured video pickin type of consensus totally out of line?

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#1060: Oct 18th 2020 at 9:15:17 PM

That's why we have the voting system. Plus, unlike Image Pickin', a trope has multiple videos show up on the page. It's really more analogous to text examples than images.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
antenna_ears from California Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#1061: Oct 18th 2020 at 9:18:20 PM

[up][up][up] Yeah, I agree. Also think the second one is fine too. Also, the first vid has a "kiss cartoon" watermark. (I think second one doesn't have it).

[up][up] I'd say the featured video is not the same thing as the trope image. Maybe it's the first video anyone sees, but as said above, it's not the only one. So yes, I think it would be.

Edited by antenna_ears on Oct 18th 2020 at 9:27:31 AM

costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#1062: Oct 19th 2020 at 10:46:54 AM

Have the mods been informed about the Loud House videos breaking copyright as mentioned on the last page?

PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#1063: Oct 19th 2020 at 11:10:30 AM

I wish video examples would credit the person who submitted each example.

wingedcatgirl mys. minty from the silly dimension from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
mys. minty from the silly dimension
#1064: Oct 19th 2020 at 11:19:51 AM

As long as only the original submitter can edit the video details, we need to know who that is.

Though, tbh, I'd prefer changing the first half.

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Oct 19th 2020 at 11:20:10 AM

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#1065: Oct 19th 2020 at 11:56:56 AM

What is our stance on the exact same clip being used for multiple tropes?

Serac she/her (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
she/her
#1066: Oct 19th 2020 at 12:02:45 PM

I believe the stance is "multiple videos from the same scene of different tropes are allowed, but they should be edited differently to focus on their respective tropes".

antenna_ears from California Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#1067: Oct 19th 2020 at 1:01:28 PM

[up]x5 Im not sure, how would I bring that to mod attention? Appeal to the moderation, or ~ them?

wingedcatgirl mys. minty from the silly dimension from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
mys. minty from the silly dimension
#1068: Oct 19th 2020 at 1:03:38 PM

List the issues here, then holler your own post.

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
antenna_ears from California Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#1069: Oct 19th 2020 at 1:16:57 PM

Copyright issues (both of these used entire youtube videos unedited)

  • Potty Emergency: The The Loud House video "Bathroom Break!" is clearly way over the length limit. Not only that, but the uploader clearly just lifted the entire short off Youtube (and didnt edit any of it), which Im fairly certain is copyright breach.
  • Fight for the Last Bite: Has the copyright issues, but not the time issues.

Edited by antenna_ears on Oct 19th 2020 at 1:24:22 AM

acrobox Since: Nov, 2010
#1070: Oct 19th 2020 at 3:06:23 PM

just throwing out ideas for structure. it feels messier than trope images or text examples for the ones that have a lot. i don't have the answer.

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#1072: Oct 19th 2020 at 10:46:03 PM

Would the Game Grumps joking about how gay Miles and Phoenix behave in Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney be a decent example for Ho Yay? It's not the scenes themselves, it's two fans reacting to the scenes. Some of the dialogue's a bit NSFW but there's SFW instances of this gag too.

Edited by mightymewtron on Oct 19th 2020 at 1:47:25 PM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Bubblepig Steve from Minecraft (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
#1073: Oct 20th 2020 at 8:00:56 PM

Someone should check out Coco's The Unfettered video. It's low quality, chopped scenes, and 2 minutes long.

"CHICKEN JOCKEY!"
antenna_ears from California Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#1074: Oct 20th 2020 at 9:16:20 PM

[up] Yeah, it does reasonably demonstrate the trope, but the first few seconds are totally unnecessary and the choppiness is weird.

Edited by antenna_ears on Oct 20th 2020 at 9:16:31 AM

Bubblepig Steve from Minecraft (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
#1075: Oct 20th 2020 at 10:49:04 PM

[up]Should I report this or I should go to Videos Needing Review?

Edited by Bubblepig on Oct 20th 2020 at 10:49:11 AM

"CHICKEN JOCKEY!"

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