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MOD NOTE: TROPES BLANKET-BANNED FROM HAVING VIDEO EXAMPLES:


It's been discussed a lot at the Video Uploading thread that a lot of poor videos are slipping through the cracks, and that a clean-up effort is necessary if we are to combat the problem.

Common issues are:

  • Videos spoiling major events from a work
  • Videos not actually fitting the trope they're attached to
  • Videos in which the important part doesn't happen until halfway through, with the length being ultimately pointless
  • Videos that use the entire work, breaking copyright; this can be done either with one video showcasing an entire short video, or multiple videos that add up to using the entire work in piecemeal.
  • Videos lacking the proper media source, or any media source at all.
  • General quality problems, like audio issues or artifacting.

Videos must also be actual videos — a video file containing a static image or slideshow (e.g. a sequence of comic panels) should not be approved.

So, we've got our work cut out for us; but this is at least a place to discuss problems and come to solutions.

Some helpful links:

Please take video moderation requests to this thread.

Edited by WarJay77 on Nov 19th 2024 at 9:27:05 AM

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#1026: Oct 12th 2020 at 4:46:34 PM

The Zero Wing intro video (on both Good Bad Translation and All Your Base Are Belong to Us) is a low-quality video complete with Unregistered HyperCam 2.

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#1027: Oct 13th 2020 at 12:26:04 AM

About the Self-Surgery videos being able to fit Meat-Sack Robot, yes I think those Terminator scenes would fit, but I'd rather not have the exact same videos be linked because they both suffer from egregious watermarks. Maybe I'll find better versions of the clips myself and upload them.

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#1028: Oct 13th 2020 at 10:07:43 AM

As a general rule, you probably should not upload the exact same video under multiple tropes. It is very likely that a video which contains multiple tropes can be edited to show off one or the other more prominently, so you should do that.

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#1029: Oct 13th 2020 at 12:02:37 PM

Right. While they sometimes can fit with no changes, usually they're edited to showcase the trope they're trying to convey and would need editing to showcase a different trope.

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antenna_ears from California Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#1030: Oct 13th 2020 at 12:53:09 PM

Some examples of The Hero are just clips of the main protagonist of a given work without showing them doing anything particularly heroic. Being a narrative role, the trope isnt the easiest to demonstrate in a short video.

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#1031: Oct 13th 2020 at 12:56:37 PM

And speaking of the same videos being reuploaded for different tropes the Jacks Lament song from The Nightmare Before Christmas was uploaded for The Hero, "I Am Great!" Song and "I Want" Song, of which I only think the last really fits.

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#1032: Oct 15th 2020 at 9:38:22 PM

Bumping something I found in Videos Needing Review:

Not only that, but the uploader clearly just lifted the entire short off Youtube (and didnt edit any of it), which Im fairly certain is copyright breach.

Edited by antenna_ears on Oct 15th 2020 at 9:38:38 AM

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#1033: Oct 15th 2020 at 9:41:19 PM

[up] There's a similar video on Fight for the Last Bite.

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#1034: Oct 15th 2020 at 9:42:24 PM

Viacom is very picky with copyright so full-length shorts ripped from their channels should be taken care of quickly.

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#1036: Oct 16th 2020 at 12:05:30 PM

A video got added recently for Nightmare Face. Due to the nature of that trope, should it be added to No Video Examples Please?

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#1037: Oct 16th 2020 at 12:09:31 PM

There are multiple videos for that trope already, and all but one don't have the Nightmare Face as the thumbnail.

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#1038: Oct 16th 2020 at 12:10:43 PM

[up] Ah, OK. I was probably just overreacting, sorry.

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#1039: Oct 16th 2020 at 2:34:48 PM

Hey I have another question. Can portions of song lyric videos be used for a video example? I haven't uploaded any video examples but I would like to include examples from music, and lyric videos are the only way I could see them being added. Yes or no?

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#1040: Oct 16th 2020 at 5:12:26 PM

I'm slightly annoyed right now.

Back for the page Sir Swears-a-Lot I tried to post the scene in the fake Sonic Adventure 2 dub where Eggman pisses on the moon, but it was rejected for being too adult (Despite the point of that trope being about lots of inappropriate language in the first place).

The exact same scene isn't rejected for Gag Dub and is the featured video. That's one hell of a bucket load of hypocrisy.

Edited by ReynTime250 on Oct 16th 2020 at 1:12:50 PM

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#1041: Oct 16th 2020 at 5:17:30 PM

[up] Hold up, when was this? Videos actually get rejected? One time somebody tested the review system by posting the worst video ever, and it still got approved.

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#1042: Oct 16th 2020 at 5:23:06 PM

To be fair, the featured-video thing isn't related to the mods any. Tropers themselves decide which video is and isn't featured.

As for why that one was rejected...well, it is pretty surprising that it happened at all since the enforcement for examples has been very...not good.

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#1043: Oct 16th 2020 at 5:29:44 PM

And I saw someone quote a line from that scene about Shadow as their signature.

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#1044: Oct 16th 2020 at 6:43:47 PM

There must be different admins with different language standards choosing these videos if the same video can get accepted once and rejected another time. Which isn't great since it means we don't have a clear idea of what's okay and what's not.

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#1045: Oct 16th 2020 at 8:11:07 PM

[up]Yet another reason why this forum should (and does) exist.

[up][up][up]Speaking of featured videos, I feel like the featured videos feature is sort of barebones. It just makes that particular selected video the first video autoplay. That's about it. How should we decide which videos get to be "featured" and which don't? What should we do if there are multiple viable featured videos?

Personally, here are my personal examples for what videos can generally fall under featured:

and so on... I personally think that the status of "featured" should be based on a crowner system.

Edited by MOARPYLONZ on Oct 16th 2020 at 8:24:56 AM

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#1046: Oct 16th 2020 at 8:15:25 PM

Of course, not every trope would have videos of that sort of notoriety, so it's a case-by-case-basis.

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#1047: Oct 17th 2020 at 12:43:41 AM

Yeah, it seems barely anything gets rejected, so I'm super suprised. Perhaps whoever did it dislikes Realtime Fan Dub?

More seriously, mods, does it show who rejected the video on your end?

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#1048: Oct 17th 2020 at 5:52:15 AM

[up] Nope. All we see is a yes/no that shows whether a video is approved or rejected.

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#1049: Oct 17th 2020 at 7:37:04 AM

The Care Bears video for Disaster Dominoes needs about 35 seconds trimmed off the end.

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#1050: Oct 17th 2020 at 9:04:25 AM

My best guess for why the SA2 dub video was rejected might be because there's some word filter that rejects titles or descriptions that trip the censor. In this case, I'm certain the word "piss" must've instantly flagged the video and caused it to be rejected. The fact the other SA2 dub video that was approved doesn't feature the word "piss" anywhere on the title or description probably gives some credence to this idea.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Oct 17th 2020 at 12:04:55 PM


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