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It's been discussed a lot at the Video Uploading thread that a lot of poor videos are slipping through the cracks, and that a clean-up effort is necessary if we are to combat the problem.

Common issues are:

  • Videos spoiling major events from a work
  • Videos not actually fitting the trope they're attached to
  • Videos in which the important part doesn't happen until halfway through, with the length being ultimately pointless
  • Videos that use the entire work, breaking copyright; this can be done either with one video showcasing an entire short video, or multiple videos that add up to using the entire work in piecemeal.
  • Videos lacking the proper media source, or any media source at all.
  • General quality problems, like audio issues or artifacting.

So, we've got our work cut out for us; but this is at least a place to discuss problems and come to solutions.

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Edited by WarJay77 on Jan 7th 2021 at 11:16:11 AM

Jul 10th 2019 at 11:24:26 PM

Yeah i was of the thought that if we started the clean up essentially as the videos came in we could curb them, but it feels like videos of poor resolution, watermarks, not clearly or effectively displaying the trope keep going up, so it's an ever steeper uphill battle.

Which also brings up the question of what the minimum requirement is for a video to be reviewed and approved. Maybe if we can agree on a few more ground rules maybe more videos could just be rejected in the first place.

Or could videos be put into a crowner system per page before going up, similar to Image Pickin threads so it's slightly less work for the mods to personally enforce.

Just tryingto think of ways the clean up could be preemptive instead of reactive.

WarJay77 From the Weather Balloon, Over the Smoke Stacks from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
From the Weather Balloon, Over the Smoke Stacks
Jul 10th 2019 at 11:26:48 PM

But what clean-up? We can't do anything until we get some sort of mod help, or the ability to fix videos without being mods.

I sincerely want to get stuff done and make the videos awesome, but I'm truly, honestly, unsure of how to do so.

Wick Check Project Official Sandbox (TM) / Now with a vandalism page!
TalesofUnder Not Sherlock Holmes from 1900s England Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Not Sherlock Holmes
Jul 18th 2019 at 2:45:32 PM

The Teen Titans Go! To the Movies example on Black Comedy has royalty-free music instead of the actual audio, and it has a watermark at the end. It’s a good example, but it needs some work.

“Now! Let us engage in the art of deduction!”
Playing_with_boy The Turkey
The Turkey
Jul 21st 2019 at 6:02:34 PM

Maybe we could re-record that scene in high-quality with original audio, using a video recording device that doesn't use watermarks? (That sounded like a Corrupt-a-wish wish where the wisher wants to avoid as many corruptions as possible.)

Anyway, for the "Weird Al" Yankovic example on Manipulative Editing, could we remove the The Weird Al Show on the "Source Media" thing for now? The source media is actually Al-TV. I could create the media Al TV with a little help from you.

Aug 3rd 2019 at 1:52:13 PM

The CollegeHumor example on Creepy Cute copies pretty much the whole video from the original. Our video could use some trimming that focuses on specific examples.

Aug 10th 2019 at 7:48:47 AM

looks like there's a new voting system on individual videos. maybe the ones that stay close to 1 or 2 stars eventually get axed?

Even if it's after they're posted rather than before, good to see some type of crowner system, even though i'm not sure how it works.

Edited by acrobox on Aug 10th 2019 at 7:49:50 AM

Aug 20th 2019 at 7:54:30 PM

I found that Jump Scare has a video, and it isn't really a good example. It's only very mildly startling at most, and I'm not convinced it was even intended to make the viewers jump. Of course, an actual Jump Scare would be a horrible thing to have a video of, so I feel like the page ought to stay video-free.

Piterpicher from Poland, for real Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
Aug 21st 2019 at 3:16:02 AM

Anything that doesn't have text examples shouldn't have video examples. At least, that's what I think.

Crossover-Enthusiast Miss! from quarantine (send Red Lobster biscuits) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Aug 21st 2019 at 9:27:48 PM

While it does an good job at portraying Absurdly High-Stakes Game, I'm not quite sure of the copyright kurfuffle that comes from using an entire fan song for a video.

It is no longer Pico Day.
Aug 22nd 2019 at 10:09:33 AM

Most of the Steven Universe videos could be considered big spoilers.

    Steven Universe spoilers ahead! 
  • Assimilation Plot: This one is not too bad, but it does come from the latest episode and features White Diamond, a character who was kept hidden for nearly the entire show.
  • Actually a Good Idea: Steven is referred to as "Pink [Diamond]", spoiling one of the show's biggest plot twists.
  • Large and in Charge: This one has both of the issues the above examples have.
  • BFS: This is also from the latest episode, and spoils Obsidian, the fusion of all four Crystal Gems. It's not really a huge, show-ruining spoiler, though.
  • Rule of Symbolism: Once again, White Diamond calls Steven "Pink".
  • Psychopathic Manchild: Yet again, White Diamond, Pink Diamond, plus it spoils the climax of the season 5 finale.
  • Cathartic Scream: Seeing Bismuth being friendly with Steven is a spoiler, since at the end of her introductory episode she pulled a Face–Heel Turn and had to be bubbled.
  • Lame Pun Reaction: Same as above.
  • Big Entrance: Yet again, Steven = Pink.
  • Curb-Stomp Battle: Guess what the issue is this time.
  • Eye Beams: White Diamond, Pink Steven (this time, not "Steven is Pink Diamond", but the character Pink Steven).
  • Future Music: Steven is sitting on Pink Diamond's throne.
  • "I Know You're in There Somewhere" Fight: Again, White Diamond and Pink Diamond/Rose Quartz.
  • Impairment Shot: In case you're wondering why Pink Steven from the Eye Beams video is a spoiler, this is why. It occurs during the climax of the season 5 finale. Bonus points for Steven's gem projecting the image of Pink Diamond, which turns into Rose Quartz, which turns into him.
  • Triumphant Reprise: Spoils the Diamonds pulling a Heel–Face Turn, and the corruption being cured. Comes from the ending of the season 5 finale.
  • Literal Metaphor: Also from the season 5 finale.
  • Broken Pedestal: On top of spoiling Rose being Pink Diamond, it also spoils that Garnet is the fusion of Ruby and Sapphire (though that's a much earlier spoiler, and probably counts as It Was His Sled by now).
  • Let's Get Dangerous!: Once again, spoiling the "Rose Quartz is Pink Diamond" twist.
  • Last-Second Word Swap: Pearl calls Rose Quartz "my Diamond".
  • Love Confession: Pearl calls Rose Quartz "a Diamond".
  • Sheltered Aristocrat: Yet again, Rose is a Diamond.
  • Tears of Joy: It never stops! Blue Diamond calls Steven "Pink".

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson.
I'm Sad Frogerson.
Aug 22nd 2019 at 10:39:13 AM

When you upload a video, there's an option to check off a box claiming that it contains spoilers. Does that actually do anything? I feel like it should, especially if you have "Show Spoilers" off.

Crossover-Enthusiast Miss! from quarantine (send Red Lobster biscuits) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Aug 22nd 2019 at 2:08:36 PM

[up][up] I have mentioned this many, many times. I'm almost certain they're all being uploaded by the same person.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Aug 22nd 2019 at 5:09:11 AM

It is no longer Pico Day.
Aug 22nd 2019 at 2:18:54 PM

I've added the video example for Strange Minds Think Alike to the sandbox list for not being an example of the trope.

The scene is a joke scene in a conversation between a group of girls who are combat students. Penny says she's combat ready. Weiss doesn't think Penny looks the part. Blake makes a snide comment about Weiss wearing a skirt. Weiss retorts that it's a 'combat skirt' and Ruby (who also wears a skirt) high-fives Weiss in agreement.

The tag-line for the video is that Weiss and Ruby finally agree on something.

The trope description, however, is that one person uses odd logic to reach a certain conclusion and, later on, a second person uses the same odd logic to reach the same conclusion, despite having no idea someone else said the same thing.

Is it worth pinning the sandbox link to the first post so that that it's easy to find?

Edited by Wyldchyld on Aug 22nd 2019 at 10:20:31 AM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it's just not worth reading.
Aug 27th 2019 at 11:50:48 AM

Story-Breaker Power's video is from the penultimate episode of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Vento Aureo. It spoils the 11th-Hour Superpower used to defeat the Big Bad. In fact, the villain's very face could be considered a spoiler since he spends most of the story hiding in shadows.

Aug 27th 2019 at 12:14:36 PM

Going back to Steven Universe, I appear to have missed some videos:

    More SU spoilers 

Aug 27th 2019 at 12:50:41 PM

Gee, so many Change Your Mind videos. Regardless, I think they should be removed for being spoilers

Here's a commercial that might be interesting
rjd1922 Image Pickin' regular from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Image Pickin' regular
Aug 27th 2019 at 1:17:01 PM

Peridot's Heel–Face Turn is probably old enough (and there's been so much of the show since then) that it could probably stay. Don't think we should delete spoiler videos since we'd like to implement a way of marking videos as spoilers, but I'm not even sure the SU video for Not Me This Time is valid; have Yellow and Blue done something like that before?

Edited by rjd1922 on Aug 27th 2019 at 3:18:10 AM

Keet cleanup
Crossover-Enthusiast Miss! from quarantine (send Red Lobster biscuits) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Aug 27th 2019 at 3:39:25 PM

Well considering the In-Universe context is Yellow's ship coming out of nowhere to deck White's ship, when Yellow and Blue are utterly terrified of White, I'd say no, they most likely haven't done anything like that, even offscreen.

It is no longer Pico Day.
Aug 30th 2019 at 8:59:49 AM

Since It's been asked we do this on ATT,

The ProZD video example on Shipping Goggles is the entirety of his video, which isn't kosher.

nombretomado Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Aug 30th 2019 at 4:51:47 PM

It's been removed.

nombretomado Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Sep 9th 2019 at 5:28:43 PM

OK, with the ATT and this thread, denied a bunch of spoiler-y examples from SU. Pinging ~EvilerThanThou and ~Monolaf317 to discuss, since they added all of the videos in question.

Monolaf317 Graar! from Canada Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
Sep 9th 2019 at 5:37:24 PM

[up]Sorry 'bout that... I guess I was a bit overexcited with a goldmine of tropes, hahaha...

Edited by Monolaf317 on Sep 9th 2019 at 8:39:01 AM

I have things to do and daddy issues to repress!
Monolaf317 Graar! from Canada Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
Sep 9th 2019 at 5:40:21 PM

Won't be posting anymore spoilery videos from now on! :)

I have things to do and daddy issues to repress!
Crossover-Enthusiast Miss! from quarantine (send Red Lobster biscuits) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Sep 9th 2019 at 5:51:44 PM

Thanks nombre, though the videos still seem to be available via the Recent Videos list and VideoExamples.Steven Universe The Movie (which is also a red link for some reason) itself - unless that was intentional?

Oh, and while we have you here, the SU movie video for Big "WHAT?!" isn't actually an example.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Sep 9th 2019 at 8:53:51 AM

It is no longer Pico Day.
nombretomado Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Sep 9th 2019 at 5:54:49 PM

The newly denied videos (as listed here) were all sourced to VideoExamples.StevenUniverse, not VideoExamples.StevenUniverseTheMovie. You're going to have to call out the videos specific to the latter for them to be denied.

ETA: to be clear, I was working off of the list here since it seemed to be capturing a lot of the ATT-cited videos, and the ATT seemed to have some active debate on some of the videos listed there.

Edited by nombretomado on Sep 9th 2019 at 5:55:46 AM

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