So Bad, It's Horrible is one of the more flame-bait-y parts of the site, so a cleanup thread is needed to ensure that works aren't added simply because someone doesn't like them.
If you want to list a work under this, keep the following in mind:
- The work must have very few fans or defenders (both genuine and ironic). It should fail to appeal to any type of audience.
- Being offensive in its subject matter isn't enough.
- It isn't horrible just because a certain critic disliked it, though their reviews can be used as sources and citations.
- The work should have notably poor reviews (e.g., less than 3/10 on IMDb, or single digit scores on Rotten Tomatoes)
- For a Moral Substitute to qualify, it cannot even appeal to its target demographic.
- Please be polite while writing and as much as possible, avoid falling into Complaining About Shows You Don't Like. Instead, focus on explaining why the work is horrible.
In addition, per No Recent Examples, Please!, a work must be at least one month old before it can be added, to prevent knee-jerk reactions.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 6th 2024 at 3:34:45 AM
The thing with DS "ports" of multiplatform titles is that the vast majority of them are not ports of the console version and instead completely different games because the DS was obviously incapable of replicating the same experience a home console or PC could give.
If the console versions of ROTSS are considered unremarkable and the DS version is completely different and terrible on its own merits, then the DS version can qualify.
Came for the tropes, stayed for the cleanup.Well, The New Norm Show is coming back after all. While the initial pilot is So Bad, It's Good, I'm curious if opinions will shift with new episodes.
Also, has anyone written a Mr. Birchum entry? I've seen it mentioned a lot here so I'm shocked no one wrote one.
It's already listed on Horrible.Western Animation, in the "TV Series" folder.
Probably not. They're still a niche. But this is a gray area.
Edited by WarJay77 on Sep 10th 2024 at 2:44:04 PM
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallHillary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party
Here
is the IMDB page.
Edited by mariic on Sep 10th 2024 at 3:15:12 AM
If a work is an Anvilicious Moral Substitute and it has a loyal fanbase, no matter how niche and no matter how harmful, it does not count.
Edited by Nen_desharu on Sep 10th 2024 at 6:47:27 AM
Kirby is awesome.Idk why you're calling that movie a "moral substitute" since it's a propaganda flick, but yeah. SBIH is for things that isolate even their niche, and yes, some of these films do alienate even the people that are supposed to agree with it.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallNot to mention the maker of that movie is still making propaganda movies that have found their niche in a similar manner. You’d be hard pressed to find someone who believes the “2020 election was stolen” conspiracy theory without hearing about his movie 2000 mules.
Also, I found out about an automatic Kitty litter cleaner that’s reportedly killing cats
. This seems like an obvious contender for horrible.
Edited by DDRMASTERM on Sep 10th 2024 at 5:35:31 AM
I am questioning these entries on Horrible.Animated Films (my thoughts are in bolded colors):
- Looney Tunes is widely considered to be among the most influential cartoon series ever produced. However, they were not without their growing pains:
- After Harman and Ising quit Warner Bros. for MGM in 1933 and took their star character Bosko with them, the newly-formed Leon Schlesinger Productions rushed out two cartoons directed by former Disney animator Tom Palmer, "Buddy's Day Out" and "I've Got to Sing a Torch Song". Palmer's inexperience as a director was evident; not only did the former introduce the infamously nondescript Buddy, but both cartoons featured poor animation, sluggish pacing, and paper-thin stories. The worst part? Both cartoons are utterly devoid of humor, with very few (uninspired) gags. And that was after Friz Freleng was called back in to rework these cartoons once Warners rejected the (even less funny) original versions. Palmer was sacked by Schlesinger after the cartoons were originally rejected, and the series was stuck with Buddy as its lead character until 1935, when Freleng's "I Haven't Got A Hat" introduced the far more successful Porky Pig and sent Buddy into an unceremonious retirement. Likely Looney, Mostly Merrie rips into both
cartoons
. I am unsure about this one.
- The "Daffy vs. Speedy" series of cartoonsnote and the "Larriva Eleven"note from the series' Audience-Alienating Era in The '60s are of debatable quality. However, even fans of this era generally regard Daffy and Speedy's final classic short, 1968's "See Ya Later Gladiator", as the absolute nadir of the Looney Tunes franchise. This cartoon is riddled with an uncharacteristic plot (in which Daffy and Speedy are accidentally sent back to ancient Rome and try to evade Emperor Nero), sloppy artwork, half-assed animationnote , bland, forgettable music (including a horribly off-key version of the already-bizarre 1960s rearrangements to "The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down"), overuse of Hanna-Barbera's Stock Sound Effects, lame and/or borderline-nonexistent gags, corny writing, and Daffy's nastier qualities returning in full swing even after prior shorts tried dialing them back. Probably the one good thing about it is Mel Blanc's top-notch voice acting. PhantomStrider had a few words to say about this mess
. Strangely enough, despite its negative reputation, it retains a 5.0/10 rating on IMDb. A 5/10 feels too high for me to be Horrible.
- While Cool Cat (the star of Looney Tunes during its twilight years in The Golden Age of Animation) wasn't as popular as past characters such as Bugs Bunny, he still has his fans. However, his last outing, "Injun Trouble"note , is generally agreed to be a very undignified end for the classic run of Warner Bros. cartoons. Beyond the rampant use of Native American stereotypes that were barely acceptable even in 1969, this cartoon relies on a nonexistent story full of bad puns, pointless or repetitive scenesnote , and groan-worthy "comedy", lacking much of the franchise's trademark slapstick; the animation and artwork are very lazy, Limited Sound Effects aboundnote and William Lava's music score is still unremarkable. Tragically, it was also the final Warner Bros. cartoon that series veteran Robert McKimson directed before his death in 1977. Due to the copious Native American stereotyping and it being produced during the series' unpopular Seven Arts era, Warner Bros. has given this short minimal exposure or acknowledgment. On IMDb, it is the lowest-rated Looney Tunes short on the site at 4.0. Unshaved Mouse covers this dreck
, as do Zak Wolf on his blog
and this
Film Threat article. I don't really think 4/10 is low enough for a good Horrible entry?
- After Harman and Ising quit Warner Bros. for MGM in 1933 and took their star character Bosko with them, the newly-formed Leon Schlesinger Productions rushed out two cartoons directed by former Disney animator Tom Palmer, "Buddy's Day Out" and "I've Got to Sing a Torch Song". Palmer's inexperience as a director was evident; not only did the former introduce the infamously nondescript Buddy, but both cartoons featured poor animation, sluggish pacing, and paper-thin stories. The worst part? Both cartoons are utterly devoid of humor, with very few (uninspired) gags. And that was after Friz Freleng was called back in to rework these cartoons once Warners rejected the (even less funny) original versions. Palmer was sacked by Schlesinger after the cartoons were originally rejected, and the series was stuck with Buddy as its lead character until 1935, when Freleng's "I Haven't Got A Hat" introduced the far more successful Porky Pig and sent Buddy into an unceremonious retirement. Likely Looney, Mostly Merrie rips into both
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I think we should hold off on the household products section as Horrible.Other may end up being cleaned of non-media examples.
I've always been unsure of those entries because I'm not sure how we judge Looney Tunes shorts in terms of standalone entries.
Edited by mightymewtron on Sep 11th 2024 at 10:39:15 AM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.How about we rename Horrible.Other to Horrible.Real Life, and add SBIH to Limited Real Life Examples Only: Only examples that fit one of the categories already on the page are allowed, unless approved in this thread.
Uh, idk if that'd really work. For one thing, when you're dealing with audience reactions and meta concepts it's all already "real life" to an extent. For another, it feels like way too much work to preserve things that aren't on mission. I enjoy that page but c'mon
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallAnd part of the problem is that the examples on the page are off-mission. While I can vouch for things with entertainment value like conventions or pop-up events, household products and food is way too broad given how many cheap and dangerous products exist.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

Would it be consider if the game is completely different?
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