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So Bad, It's Horrible is one of the more flame-bait-y parts of the site, so a cleanup thread is needed to ensure that works aren't added simply because someone doesn't like them.

If you want to list a work under this, keep the following in mind:

  • The work must have very few fans or defenders (both genuine and ironic). It should fail to appeal to any type of audience.
  • Being offensive in its subject matter isn't enough.
  • It isn't horrible just because a certain critic disliked it, though their reviews can be used as sources and citations.
  • The work should have notably poor reviews (e.g., less than 3/10 on IMDb, or single digit scores on Rotten Tomatoes)
  • For a Moral Substitute to qualify, it cannot even appeal to its target demographic.
  • Please be polite while writing and as much as possible, avoid falling into Complaining About Shows You Don't Like. Instead, focus on explaining why the work is horrible.

In addition, per No Recent Examples, Please!, a work must be at least one month old before it can be added, to prevent knee-jerk reactions.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 6th 2024 at 3:34:45 AM

FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#7601: Jul 23rd 2024 at 10:44:55 AM

On the link you posted, it's sitting at 73k likes and 69k dislikes.

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Furian1996 Since: Sep, 2013
#7603: Aug 1st 2024 at 6:28:19 PM

I am personally questiong the Velma entry on the Western Animation subpage. Didn't we previously agree that it didn't qualify for inclusion?

    Entry is as follows 

fragglelover Since: Jun, 2012
#7605: Aug 1st 2024 at 6:33:40 PM

We agreed to wait until the second season was released to determine whether or not it improved enough to change opinion of it.

AudioSpeaks2 Since: Apr, 2022
#7606: Aug 1st 2024 at 6:39:03 PM

[up] The second season was already released and opinions didn't change. If anything, it worsened.

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Aug 1st 2024 at 9:39:19 PM

fragglelover Since: Jun, 2012
#7607: Aug 1st 2024 at 8:10:46 PM

I know. I considered putting it in the post, thought it was implied, and then didn't.

TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#7608: Aug 2nd 2024 at 8:05:57 AM

Is Mr Birchum negatively recieved enough to count? The show has a 44% on Rotten Tomatoes and a 3.6 on IMDb.

Once Upon A Time.
AudioSpeaks2 Since: Apr, 2022
#7609: Aug 2nd 2024 at 8:08:13 AM

[up] I think so? I don't know if the ironic fanbase (which is mostly about queer subtext and shipping) is enough to save it from the fact that most people consider it to be awful and unentertaining.

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Aug 2nd 2024 at 11:11:20 PM

generation81 Since: Aug, 2021
#7610: Aug 2nd 2024 at 8:09:31 AM

I'd say yes. The ironic gay ships are just thar, ironic.

Echidna from Ontario, Canada (Striking Back) Relationship Status: Two-timing
#7611: Aug 2nd 2024 at 8:11:08 AM

[up][up][up] Considering the rating and what I saw yes I would say it would fit the criteria.

MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#7612: Aug 2nd 2024 at 3:16:26 PM

44% is pretty high. I don't want to kneejerk add it just because it's low-effort slop. If it has an audience it has an audience, and we have to be fair.

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themayorofsimpleton Short-Term Projects Herald | he/him from the Island of Koridai (Captain) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
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#7613: Aug 2nd 2024 at 3:17:24 PM

[up] I was thinking that. 44% isn't too bad as far as critical reception goes. I personally despise this show but reviews are reviews, and this might not count with that rating.

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number9robotic (Experienced Trainee)
#7614: Aug 2nd 2024 at 3:23:43 PM

What do the positive reviews making up that 44% argue as positives of the show? Do they collide with the criticisms asserted in the proposed writeup? I've seen a trend of generous reviews giving out relatively positive ratings for shows for very surface-level reasons while acknowledging certain flaws that others take much more seriously, like meanspirited/edgy humor (giving benefit of the doubt that it's not for everyone).

Edited by number9robotic on Aug 2nd 2024 at 3:25:37 AM

Thanks for playing King's Quest V!
FernandoLemon Since: Aug, 2015
#7615: Aug 2nd 2024 at 4:03:12 PM

We cut Color a Dinosaur for less.

MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#7616: Aug 2nd 2024 at 4:48:59 PM

[up][up] We can't discredit reviews just because we dislike the thing. I said the same thing when we were discussing Lady Ballers — if a thing is only liked because it panders to shitty people, then it succeeded in appealing to its audience and doesn't qualify for SBIH.

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AudioSpeaks2 Since: Apr, 2022
#7618: Aug 2nd 2024 at 4:51:54 PM

[up] The thing about Lady Ballers is that it was mostly liked by it's target audience. With Birchum, that's not really the case and I rarely see any conservatives actually talk about it in a good light.

MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#7619: Aug 2nd 2024 at 4:54:14 PM

[up][up] It doesn't matter why they're giving it a positive review, all that matters is they are (unless they're demonstrably Astro Turfing, but that's a whole other thing).

Edited by MurlocAggroB on Aug 2nd 2024 at 5:54:52 AM

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ForgoLight The Ultimate Lifeform Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
The Ultimate Lifeform
#7620: Aug 2nd 2024 at 5:26:18 PM

[up]Well in regards to that, there is a gray area in regards to the Anti-Woke hysteria making the target audience "like" absolutely anything that is against any kind of open minded themes. They would probably "like" something like Holy Terror precisely because it's so outrageously bigoted, and not because of any merits of the book or show itself. This it's incredibly hard to take them at face value or being in good faith, at least from what I have seen.

And I for the record do agree with the sentiment of the target audience of the show not really genuinely liking it or enjoying it.

"Us weirdos have to stick together!"
MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#7621: Aug 2nd 2024 at 5:46:28 PM

[up] Again, it doesn't matter if the only redeeming quality is mindless pandering. For a work to be SBIH, then it has to fail to appeal to even the target audience.

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AudioSpeaks2 Since: Apr, 2022
#7622: Aug 2nd 2024 at 5:50:39 PM

[up] Which in the case of Birchum btw, did fail to appease them

BocchiTheRock Since: Feb, 2023
#7623: Aug 2nd 2024 at 11:37:40 PM

One show that I feel should be cut is Heathers (2018). It has a 5.6 rating on IMDB which is moreso average. Also, each individual episode has its rating in the 7.0 range mostly.

Lumberwood Outdated af account from Wouldn't you like to know? Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#7624: Aug 3rd 2024 at 11:27:49 PM

[up] Sounds like it's solidly worth cutting.

Sincerely, Lumberwood
AlmightyKingPrawn I can chase the wind, I can race the rain from Down at Fraggle Rock *clap clap* Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: I love you for psychological reasons
I can chase the wind, I can race the rain
#7625: Aug 4th 2024 at 2:52:02 PM

Someone added Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser to Other with a very brief, barely-descriptive entry. I'm not even sure if it qualifies as while it flopped hard on the financial side, reception from those who stayed there appears to be more mixed, with the biggest crime (and source of many criticisms that would be much quieter if it was cheaper) not being any aspects of the hotel itself so much as the thousands of dollars to spend per night. Indeed, the entry itself only mentions as flaws that "it was expensive" and "it flopped because it was expensive".

Edited by AlmightyKingPrawn on Aug 4th 2024 at 5:53:55 AM

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