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So Bad, It's Horrible is one of the more flame-bait-y parts of the site, so a cleanup thread is needed to ensure that works aren't added simply because someone doesn't like them.

If you want to list a work under this, keep the following in mind:

  • The work must have very few fans or defenders (both genuine and ironic). It should fail to appeal to any type of audience.
  • Being offensive in its subject matter isn't enough.
  • It isn't horrible just because a certain critic disliked it, though their reviews can be used as sources and citations.
  • The work should have notably poor reviews (e.g., less than 3/10 on IMDb, or single digit scores on Rotten Tomatoes)
  • For a Moral Substitute to qualify, it cannot even appeal to its target demographic.
  • Please be polite while writing and as much as possible, avoid falling into Complaining About Shows You Don't Like. Instead, focus on explaining why the work is horrible.

In addition, per No Recent Examples, Please!, a work must be at least one month old before it can be added, to prevent knee-jerk reactions.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 6th 2024 at 3:34:45 AM

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#3426: Sep 15th 2021 at 8:35:46 AM

Should we add Thundercats Roar to the "disqualified works" section (with stuff like Johnny Test and TTG! and the like)?

"Hey, least I didn't lose all my artistic talent when I crash landed in the arena here."
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#3427: Sep 15th 2021 at 8:35:48 AM

[up][up] Whoops, responded on ATT after you removed. Sorry.

[up] Absolutely.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Sep 15th 2021 at 11:36:12 AM

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#3428: Sep 15th 2021 at 3:04:23 PM

[up][up] [tup] to that.

Edit: may possibly just be the power of the complaining cleanup thread doing its job or something, but YMMV.Thundercats Roar has some positive reactions listed and is very neutral overall.

I remember back when the show was first announced that page immediately got created, was filled with complaining, and was subsequently locked for like a year. When it got unlocked people either didn't care anymore or didn't want it locked again, so it's probably one of the cleaner "contentious works" YMMVs.

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magnumtropus Since: Aug, 2020
#3429: Sep 15th 2021 at 10:15:20 PM

There's a "disqualified works" section? Is it a page or something like that.

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#3430: Sep 15th 2021 at 10:22:09 PM

Yeah, where is it?

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#3431: Sep 15th 2021 at 11:37:07 PM

[up][up] [up] it's commented out at the top of Western Animation.

[down][nja]

Edited by AlmightyKingPrawn on Sep 15th 2021 at 2:37:36 PM

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#3432: Sep 15th 2021 at 11:37:15 PM

It's a commented out note on Horrible.Western Animation. I don't know if other pages have something like that.

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Edited by mightymewtron on Sep 15th 2021 at 2:37:21 PM

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#3433: Sep 16th 2021 at 8:15:50 AM

[up] Horrible.Anime And Manga has several disqualified works.

magnumtropus Since: Aug, 2020
#3434: Sep 16th 2021 at 8:20:09 AM

Should there be a separate page to list disqualified works across mediums?

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#3435: Sep 16th 2021 at 8:39:03 AM

[up] Maybe we could have a Sandbox for it.

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#3436: Sep 16th 2021 at 8:53:39 AM

[up][up]I think it would be helpful, as sometimes tropers accidentally miss commented-out notes due to immediately going to the place they want to make their edits.

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#3437: Sep 16th 2021 at 10:43:07 AM

[up][up][up] No objections here, especially given the point dragonfire just made.

Edited by kablammin45 on Sep 16th 2021 at 10:43:36 AM

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#3438: Sep 16th 2021 at 11:27:34 AM

Should Da Boom Crew stay on here? The only negative stuff I’ve heard about it really is from a few reviewers, and the animation and art is appealing.

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#3439: Sep 16th 2021 at 1:06:26 PM

[up] The Emoji Movie and the film adaptation of Artemis Fowl are also decent technically but are both vehemently hated by practically everyone and aggressively terrible in practically every way, so decent visuals probably don’t disqualify something from qualifing. The only time I see anyone bring up the show it’s to bash it and the show was canceled only 4 episodes in, not fully aired in the US, and burned off in UK. That seems to meet the criteria.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Sep 16th 2021 at 4:07:49 AM

Once Upon A Time.
TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#3440: Sep 16th 2021 at 2:55:24 PM

This entry for Protogent probably doesn’t qualify due it being considered So Bad, It's Good, which the entry even partially acknowledges when talking about its meme status.

* The "ads" for the anti-virus program Protegent. They are all poorly-drawn and badly acted (all of the people in the commercials have very thick Indian accents, and mostly look very similar), and the design of Proto (the mascot) is plagiarized from Whyatt from Super Why!. In addition, Protegent is notorious for being low-quality, so the ads shouldn't come off as surprising. The only good things to come out of these are the various memes. See all of the ads here.
  • Their rap song is the ad that launched them into fame, particularly from being featured in Joel Johannson's "Windows Vista Destruction" series of videos. The song's lyrics make little attempt to rhyme, have poor grammar, or seem forced, the animation is filled with blatant GIS Syndrome that could be replicated with cheap drag-and-drop animation, Proto has no flow whatsoever, speaking with weird emphases and pausing mid-sentence several times due to the words not having enough syllables, and the music is ripped from a generic royalty-free site. It also tries telling businesses that downloading Protegent and firing 20% of their staff will help the business. Make of that what you will.
  • Another notable one of these ads is the teacher ad. It focuses on the fact that you can monitor other computers using it, but they have a student apparently watching "porn"... which is just Twilight fan art of Edward and Bella hugging and kissing. The best part is the ending, where the student thanks Protegent for not leading him in the "wrong direction". note  It has to be seen to be believed.

Once Upon A Time.
magnumtropus Since: Aug, 2020
#3441: Sep 16th 2021 at 7:44:50 PM

So who makes the Sandbox and how? Are there any formalities or do we just create it?

Regarding the memetic status of Protegent, even The Nutshack is memetic for its low quality, but it is still listed on Western Animation

Also, someone added The Activist to the Game Show page. While it certainly received a lot of backlash upon its announcement, It feels a bit too early for it to have an entry. I don't think it has even been released yet.

Edited by magnumtropus on Sep 16th 2021 at 6:49:11 PM

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#3442: Sep 16th 2021 at 7:54:37 PM

[up] Indeed, it hasn't been released and should not be added. In fact, it's being retooled entirely due to the backlash so it may not even qualify in its final form.

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TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#3443: Sep 16th 2021 at 8:09:44 PM

[up] [up] Yeah but Protegent is more considered So Bad, It's Good, its even a Video Example for the trope. The Nutshack’s theme song seems to be the only thing about the show seen as So Bad, It's Good. Though perhaps the blatant plagerism in the mascot’s design would still make it qualify for the trope.

Once Upon A Time.
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#3444: Sep 16th 2021 at 9:11:49 PM

According to Wikipedia, "Where's Herb?" (on Advertising) had some positive reviews in publications as major as TIME. It still had a widely negative reception, though, seemingly tied mostly to Herb's reveal at the Super Bowl. Is it still bad enough to be Horrible, or is it just a standard flop?

Edited by mightymewtron on Sep 16th 2021 at 12:11:57 PM

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TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#3445: Sep 17th 2021 at 7:01:32 AM

[up] If it’s hated by most people than it counts.

Once Upon A Time.
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#3446: Sep 17th 2021 at 2:55:01 PM

Mind if I created a sandbox for stuff banned from So Bad, It's Horrible?

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mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#3447: Sep 17th 2021 at 2:58:50 PM

I don't even know if that's necessary. We have commented-out notes where the entries would go or at the top of the page, and I think that makes it clear enough to people looking to add those entries.

Edited by mightymewtron on Sep 17th 2021 at 5:58:59 AM

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SkylaNoivern Since: Sep, 2016
#3448: Sep 22nd 2021 at 3:09:14 PM

I wouldn't be opposed to the idea.

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#3449: Sep 23rd 2021 at 7:23:01 AM

I, for one, am opposed to such a Sandbox, as I would fully expect people to abuse it to write the example they’d badly want to see on the horrible pages proper.

PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#3450: Sep 23rd 2021 at 9:39:11 AM

[up] Yes, this. At least the commented-out format will ensure not many works even make the list.


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