So Bad, It's Horrible is one of the more flame-bait-y parts of the site, so a cleanup thread is needed to ensure that works aren't added simply because someone doesn't like them.
If you want to list a work under this, keep the following in mind:
- The work must have very few fans or defenders (both genuine and ironic). It should fail to appeal to any type of audience.
- Being offensive in its subject matter isn't enough.
- It isn't horrible just because a certain critic disliked it, though their reviews can be used as sources and citations.
- The work should have notably poor reviews (e.g., less than 3/10 on IMDb, or single digit scores on Rotten Tomatoes)
- For a Moral Substitute to qualify, it cannot even appeal to its target demographic.
- Please be polite while writing and as much as possible, avoid falling into Complaining About Shows You Don't Like. Instead, focus on explaining why the work is horrible.
In addition, per No Recent Examples, Please!, a work must be at least one month old before it can be added, to prevent knee-jerk reactions.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 6th 2024 at 3:34:45 AM
I know he is well-liked by Trump supporters, at least as far as I know. I've seen his name pop up in right-wing stuff.
I have a film that I think should be placed on SBIH but I wasn't completely sure about it so I thought I should bring it up here. The film in question is the Fan Film The Death of Batman
.
The film is definitely bad enough and universally hated to qualify it has a very abysmal 1.9 on IMDB
and there are multiple
different
reviews
talking about how bad the film is. If you want a quick rundown on why the film is so bad, the idea seems good on the surface the idea of Batman being confronted by the idea that his actions accidentally sent an innocent man to jail, but ends up completely dropping the ball, from a technical aspect the film is not in very good quality and the acting isn't super good either, but the bigger problem is all that Batman is completely out of character and the plot makes no sense and the reason the innocent man got arrested is comical in how much it doesn't make sense. And in the end, Batman ends up getting high on tons of drugs and beaten and raped before dying in the end it seems more like an excuse to make Batman suffer as much as possible.
The problem isn't that the film is universally hated enough as it clearly is. The reason I am not sure about this going on is that as I already mentioned this is technically a Fan Film and I am aware that the Fanfic page was deleted in the past. However, there are some things that make me think that this could just go on the Live-Action Films page. It is one of the longer fan films for one and one of the only ones to get its own IMDB page and also the film was apparently professionally produced (even though it really doesn't feel like it was). It is admittedly a bit tricky but for those reasons, I think It could be allowed a spot on here but I want to bring it up here just to be safe.
I believe that film was covered on Horrible.Fan Film for some time, and I don't think it should be re-added if it's a fan film.
As for D'Souza, I'll reluctantly concede that he does have a right-wing fanbase who likes him, though I'm not sure if they like all of his films.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.From what I could read in the entry, the only part that contains any proof that even right-wingers dislike D'Souza's work is the one concerning Death of a Nation, since it contains a link to a negative review in an apparently right-wing site.
The rest of the entry just contains links to random Internet reviewers and accusations that his work contains "lies and logical fallacies". Which might as well be true, I don't know, I'm not interested in political propaganda films of any bent and I sure as hell will not be watching them. But even if that was the case, if his target audience liked them, they're not Horrible.
If only Death of a Nation qualifies for Horrible, then it should be moved to the general Horrible Films page and his entry as a "Repeat Offender" should be removed.
"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."We've kept one work with a target audience that enjoyed them, but that work was able to cause actual harm to children, and these are just propaganda movies. So I think they can be cut.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallUm... What was the work? Sounds pretty unsettling the way you phrased it and I'm morbidly curious.
"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."It's in Horrible.Literature: Look for the section on Michael Pearl.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallOh, that one.
Yeah, that can be kept. It has most likely actually killed kids.
"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."Speaking of that page, the Touched By Venom entry seems to focus primarily on the depressing nature of the book without exploring its other bad writing decisions. Anybody else able to explain its other failings that make it truly Horrible?
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.Also should we Add Amy schumer's leather special" to the Live action tv page because Nazi trolling aside it seems universally hated among Schumer's own fan base and has long served was a textbook example about how not to do vagina jokes
Edited by The_MJP on Jun 4th 2021 at 1:15:41 PM
Taichibana-san are you really a traitor?![]()
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I remember reading an entry about that particular book on this very site at one point that explains that it's also poorly written, with lots of trashy and unnecessary sex scenes involving draco-bestiality, and that the protagonist somehow still orgasms despite undergoing female circumcision. I might be misremembering or mixing it up with another book, though.
I'm curious Is it beastiality simply A human having sex with an animal regardless of intelligence or does the animal have to be strictly non-sapient for it to count
Cause then wouldn't all interspecies relationships count as beastiality
Edited by The_MJP on Jun 4th 2021 at 5:00:26 AM
Taichibana-san are you really a traitor?I've noticed that the Vanity Plates section in Other is getting rather long. Should it be split into a new page, or stay as it is?
Edited by RobowilOFFICIAL on Jun 5th 2021 at 10:16:53 AM
I don't know, but one thing I do know is that the original CLG Wiki shut down a few days ago, and the new one on Miraheze is a bit more neutral. So not only do we we have a ton of dead links, but we've lost some important citation.
Anyways, as a logo nerd, while most of the plates qualify, I'm questioning this one
- There exists a rare variant
of the Walt Disney Home Video logo used on various live-action titles. Despite making sporadic appearances for about six years, it feels like a placeholder that accidentally made it onto a finished tape. There's no animation of any sort, and it doesn't even use the corporate logo, instead using a boring generic font. Why this was used when they could have used the regular logo
, which existed at the same time and used the same music, is a Riddle for the Ages.
Going on from the Dinesh D'Souza conversation, there's this in Horrible.Comic Strips.
- Many consider the reactions in the political strips of Mallard Fillmore a textbook example of Confirmation Bias. The problem with that idea is that many people with similar views (conservatives, especially older ones) don't find the strip funny, those on the opposite side of the political spectrum tend to find the comic blatantly insulting, and non-political readers just find it unfunny. Check any comics board with a newspaper section and note how many posts on "The Duck" contain the phrase "I'm a conservative, but...". The comic itself would probably be relegated to right-wing websites and newsletters if it wasn't frequently used as a "counter-balance" for the liberal viewpoints presented in Doonesbury note . It tends to substitute talk radio talking points for punchlines, forgets to do its research, and frequently repeats the same "joke" over several strips from slightly different angles. It overuses Straw Liberals and stereotypes of people of color, many of whom are in the regular cast. This is actually pretty sad since Bruce Tinsley's non-political strips can be genuinely funny and do show a flair for observational humor. Unfortunately, those strips make up less than 10% of the strip's output. Discussing Mallard Fillmore on The Comics Curmudgeon is now an automatic banning offense. Not helping is the fact that Mallard Fillmore has horribly lazy and ugly art, which often consists of either the duck's head shoved into a corner by a Wall of Text or Mallard splayed out in front of the television with his (thankfully) undetailed crotch on full display. In 2019, newspapers such as the San Diego Union-Tribune dropped the strip due to antisemitic humor
, proving they no longer even found the comic a worthy balance to its liberal cohorts. This led to a long hiatus and Loren Fishman taking over Tinsley's duties making new comics in 2020.
Now, I'm not American, but from what I know, this is a controversial comic strip with an unabashedly conservative author which frequently goes on Author Tracts and occasionally uses offensive humor.
The warning bells here ring especially because of the particular line that says the author occasionally draws non-political strips and these are funny. It then goes on to say that those strips are only around 10% of the strip's out put. But even then, if 1 out of 10 strips are funny, then it's not Horrible. It would be Horrible if the entire work sucks completely, with zero redeeming qualities.
"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."Also, what about Mike lindell's "Absolute Proof", a "documentary" about election fraud that's basically mike screaming conspiracies for two hours.
I think the fact it attemps to undermine faith in our democracy, echoes the mantras that led to the 1/6 insurrection, and spouts lies so dangerous they could lead to a fascist takeover of a country is reason alone to put it in (much like with Vaxxed, House of Numbers and the above mentioned 'pearl method" books)
And Even if you somehow believe the 2020 US election was stolen, Unlike Plandemic, (a fellow documentary of lies probably saved from this due to its slick production) there's no structure to the piece at all, (from what I know it either mostly or entirley consists of Mike at a desk, meaning it barley qualifies as a documentary), the few comprehensible statements made in it are blatantly and laughably untrue and can be disproven by a simple Google search (I think at one point Lindell says venuselian government hacked the machines under orders of Hugo Chavez, who is dead) and has production values that make The Room and Birdemic look like Marvel Studios Movies. (To quite Jhon Oliver "It looks like a porn parody of itself)
Here's internet today talking about it here https://youtu.be/6hb-tRV-nuo
Majority Report Host Sam Seeder talking about it here: https://youtu.be/eh6QAhiZCG4
and Former Right Winger - turned - center-left Social critic Hunter Avallone talking about it here https://youtu.be/DEMyIyC_cJw
If you need reviews but given the fact it attemps to undermine democracy, I don't think it needs it
Also while it first Aired on One America News, It appears they were just the ones who agreed to air it, (with a hilarious disclaimer) and the production itself was all Lindell thus I'm unsure it it's a Tv Movie or a Direct-to -video feature that just so happened get airtime on Cable
Edited by The_MJP on Jun 6th 2021 at 5:12:38 AM
Taichibana-san are you really a traitor?Yeah, no. That entire post is a brutal and blatant ROCEJ violation.
If it's Horrible, it's Horrible because of its quality. We're not gonna add an example saying "if you agree with this then you're a dangerous fascist".
Edited by WackyPancake on Jun 6th 2021 at 1:22:10 PM
"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."Well like I said it's also incoherent and has blatant critical reasarch failure and terrible production values
And given that it won a razzie and what it promotes I feel it should at least be on the critical reasarch failure or so bad it's good pages
Also the entry on quibi on the apps page just seems to talk about how unpopular the app is and how bad the shows are not the quality of the app itself
Edited by The_MJP on Jun 6th 2021 at 5:29:44 AM
Taichibana-san are you really a traitor?You're forgetting an important part, MJP. These works need to be unanimously hated.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallThe app revolves around those shows, so if all of them are bad shows and presented in a user-unfriendly manner, resulting in it being unpopular, then it can probably stay as SBIH.
The Absolute Proof documentary sounds like it's aimed at a specific group of conspirators, and I'm sure they liked it, so we probably can't list it as Horrible. I'd prefer to not go down the route of giving a platform to any conspiracy documentary.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
well "Vaxxed" and "House of Numbers" got on here due to what they espoused andI thought something that could lead to a coup is reason enough to put something on the horrible page, much like with things that espouse anti-vax or AIDS denialism, the ideology is just so destructive that anything that espouses it is horrible by default
For the record none of the tropers here actually buy those election conspiracies or anything Lindell said in absolute proof, right?
Edited by The_MJP on Jun 6th 2021 at 5:50:10 AM
Taichibana-san are you really a traitor?

I am very wary of folks adding such examples because this is a trope about writing quality not about the viewpoints expressed in a work. And too often folks have Opinion Myopia and think their opinions are universal. Unless you can demonstrate that even hardcore Trump supporters call this work bad, it has nothing lost on the Horrible pages.
In particular, after taking stock of Horrible.Live Action Films I can't help but notice how sparse the comments on his reception among Trump supporters are. Frankly, I suspect the whole entry is shoehorning.
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