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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#226: Jan 16th 2021 at 11:50:40 AM

It depends how they do it of course, but if they want to make Moon Knight distinct from, say, Batman they'll lean into the supernatural stuff.

With Hawke being cast, Bushman probably wont be anything but a secondary villain, but he's still tied to Marc's origin considering he's the one who kills Marc.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#227: Jan 16th 2021 at 11:55:18 AM

It would make for a great moment if they stretch this into an arc.

After like an entire season(s) of everyone questioning whether Marc is just talking nonsense or not, even when Marc himself starts believing there is no Egyptian God and he’s just loony, right there in the final moment that counts it turns out it was all real after all.

Could be some real spectacular shit.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#228: Jan 16th 2021 at 12:03:27 PM

Meh.

Iron Fist did that in season 1 and it's one of the reasons that season is so poorly regarded.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#229: Jan 16th 2021 at 12:22:42 PM

It would work better here since it would mix with the fact that Marc is genuinely unstable.

So merging his insanity with mythology would create some serious mad stuff.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#230: Jan 16th 2021 at 12:42:47 PM

While I am imagining this in terms of a fairly light-hearted Moon Knight show (which probably is not the direction chosen), my idea was pretty much that Mark would survive a double-cross in the Middle East under ambiguously magical circumstances (basically, his co-workers in a company that is totally not Blackwater would try to kill him and there would be a cave collapse that would kill everyone except for Mark).

And I have him bring back home an idol of Khonshu, and he'd hear it talking to him, although the audience wouldn't necessarily hear anything except for static. And you'd have discussion about how the statue seems to be a modern fake of the kind that would be sold to tourists.

My general idea is a a combination of the Ultimate Universe's Thor (possibly crazy guy with possible magic powers) and Tom Hardy's Venom (nice guy with some issues bonded to a force of destruction).

Edited by Hodor2 on Jan 16th 2021 at 2:45:57 PM

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#231: Jan 16th 2021 at 12:52:39 PM

Marc's very much not a nice guy though.

Like the reason he'd be with a Blackwater expy is because he signed up. For money.

Basically the whole reason he even fights Bushman is for a woman.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#232: Jan 16th 2021 at 12:54:53 PM

He is a former merc.

They are typically not nice people.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#233: Jan 16th 2021 at 12:56:52 PM

Yeah. Kind of hard to argue with that. Especially because my mind does keep going back to that scandal about Hobby Lobby dealing in questionably ethical/legal (and sometimes questionably genuine) antiquities.

Part of my thought process was inspired by the Leverage episode "The Homecoming Job" where sympathetic U.S. soldiers are double crossed by Not!Blackwater. But if Marc actually works for them and has some connection with antiques theft (hence Khonshu) than it's hard to frame him as heroic, even if he's more sympathetic than Bushman.

Edited by Hodor2 on Jan 16th 2021 at 3:01:17 AM

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#234: Jan 16th 2021 at 1:13:19 PM

Marc is very much an antihero even before he becomes Moon Knight.

When he worked for the CIA, he wasn't riding a desk.

The sympathetic one is Frenchie. I wonder who they'll get for him.

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#235: Jan 16th 2021 at 1:20:19 PM

The origin Ellis gave in his run is that Marc had brain damage, and Konshu used that to install himself in his mind and fracturing it into different personalities. It balances his mental health (Ellis said he wanted to retcon the whole split personality origin since he has a friend who has DID and he hated the way it was depicted in MK) with the more supernatural aspects of his mythos.

Edited by Akirakan on Jan 16th 2021 at 4:21:07 AM

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#236: Jan 16th 2021 at 1:43:19 PM

Yeah, originally Marc's various alter egos were just cover identities.

Which is probably what the show will go with, if they use them at all.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#237: Jan 16th 2021 at 6:06:18 PM

[up]x2

Makes sense, Moon Knight's DID has never been done delicately.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#238: Jan 17th 2021 at 9:30:12 AM

One run I think settled for Spector actually being an insane person... Who also really did have a God talking to him.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#239: Jan 17th 2021 at 9:34:07 AM

We all agreed to never talk about Bemis' run tongue

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#240: Jan 17th 2021 at 12:36:04 PM

Poor Moon Knight.

He has not had a good quality last couple years.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#241: Jan 17th 2021 at 1:40:50 PM

Eh, I would disagree. In the last years you had the redefining run by Ellis, the pulpy stories that followed, Lemire's excellent run, and other guest star participations like in Damnation that officially made him part of the Midnight Sons. After that everything went downhill with Bemis' run and Aaron's recent Avengers storyline, but overall a positive balance.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#242: Jan 17th 2021 at 2:13:31 PM

I Kinda hope Al Ewing gets to write Moon Knight someday. I really like how he writes Bruce Banner's system, so i feel like he would do a good job with Moon Knights system too.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#243: Jan 17th 2021 at 2:23:11 PM

[up][up] The Bemis and Aaron storylines is what I meant by last couple of years.

Aaron especially with the very terrible Khonshu Rising arc or whatever.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 17th 2021 at 2:25:41 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#244: Jan 18th 2021 at 11:22:36 AM

From what is seen in the comments, Moon Knight has a certain resemblance to Spawn, it is that both were violent anti-heroes even before putting on the mask to fight super-villains.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#245: Jan 20th 2021 at 10:02:19 PM

‘She-Hulk’: Ginger Gonzaga Joins Disney+ Marvel Series

Gonzaga plays Walters’ best friend. As announced at Disney Investor Day, Avengers star Mark Ruffalo will reprise his role as The Hulk and Tim Roth is reprising his Hulk character of The Abomination on She-Hulk.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#246: Jan 21st 2021 at 2:22:48 AM

[up][up] that much is fairly accurate though Spawn has powers whereas Moon Knight is Badass Normal (usually) - though occasionally he ends up as a low level super.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#247: Jan 21st 2021 at 11:22:00 PM

Jen’s best friend in the comics is typically Patsy Walker so I wonder who Gonzaga will be.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jan 21st 2021 at 11:22:19 AM

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#248: Jan 21st 2021 at 11:51:22 PM

I'm guessing Jazinda the Skrull, to tie into that side of things a bit more. She was is in the "best friend/sidekick" role for a while and shape shifting is probably one of the more budget friendly abilities.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Jazinda_Kl%27rt-Spawn_(Earth-616)

Edited by jakobitis on Jan 21st 2021 at 7:53:33 PM

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#249: Jan 22nd 2021 at 12:07:36 AM

I've seen one theory that she might be playing Jill Stevens, an obscure She-Hulk character who was killed after her first appearance.

Edited by windleopard on Jan 22nd 2021 at 12:10:11 PM

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#250: Jan 22nd 2021 at 12:27:19 AM

Jen’s best friend in the comics is typically Patsy Walker

That's only recently. Jen's "Best Friend" role changes a lot throughout the various runs.

Edited by Cortez on Jan 22nd 2021 at 4:28:26 PM


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