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"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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Redirect.
While we are at it, what's the difference between My Rules Are Not Your Rules and The Computer Is a Cheating Bastard?
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The Computer Is a Cheating Bastard is a supertrope, covering other things like Contractual Boss Immunity and SNK Boss.
^ My Rules Are Not Your Rules (the AI players break the explicitly laid-out rules of the game) already sounds like a supertrope to the two tropes you mention. What does MRANYR bring to the table that could not be covered by The Computer Is a Cheating Bastard?
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Subtropes can never be utilize anything that the Super-Trope does not. A square can never have any measurement that doesn't fit the definition for a rectangle.
Adjusting the dice isn't breaking in-game rules logic, but it's still cheating.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
On the other hand, a subtrope must be more specific than its supertrope in order to justify its existence. I was asking about what The Computer Is a Cheating Bastard covers that its subtrope My Rules Are Not Your Rules doesn't.
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
That is what you intended to ask, but not what you posted. Because I realized what you meant, I corrected the mistake and answered your intended question; controlling the random number result is cheating, but nothing about the in-game rules logic is violated. Therefore, control over random results is a "measurement" of cheating, but is not a "measurement" of breaking the rules.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
>>Therefore, control over random results is a "measurement" of cheating
Then we have a different definition of "cheating". In my understanding you have to be dishonest to be cheating. If the computer is giving himself an edge by controlling the outcome but the player knows about it, then it's not cheating but unfair. So my whole complaint then comes down to an unfortunate use of words. Case closed for me.
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"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
In at least 9 years, this trope has only accumulated 19 wicks and 506 inbounds. On top of that, it's also basically the same as My Rules Are Not Your Rules But More Specific. Since both tropes require a video game with an AI player, I don't think that being a computer adaptation of another game is enough of a distinction to be useful, so I would recommend cutting Rules Are For Humans and leaving behind a redirect to My Rules Are Not Your Rules.