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Libraryseraph Take my revolution! from Canada Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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Apr 4th 2019 at 11:23:45 AM

I hope I'm not overstepping any boundaries by doing this, but I feel like Eldritch Abomination has a real problem with people just sticking any weird, powerful monster or being in there. Since the description explicitly says not to do that, I think the trope could use a cleanup.

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Apr 6th 2019 at 2:44:35 PM

I've noticed that happening as well.

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EmilaSkytracker from Spending too much time on TV Tropes Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Apr 19th 2019 at 2:01:12 PM

The Laconic version of Eldritch Abomination just says surreal monster, maybe that's why people don't realize other qualifications. Laconic EldritchAbomination

Libraryseraph Take my revolution! from Canada Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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Apr 20th 2019 at 9:02:40 AM

To be fair, at what point can a character be considered an Eldritch Abomination?

If we get fussy, Cthulhu could be considered a simple Kaijuu.

His appearance is not even "surreal and incomprehensible", he's a guy with an octopus head.

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Apr 20th 2019 at 9:04:50 AM

But he elicits madness in whoever saw him.

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EmilaSkytracker from Spending too much time on TV Tropes Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Apr 20th 2019 at 1:06:17 PM

After review, I think that there is a need for a trope like Brown Note Monster, where just being exposed to the creature can harm you.
For instance, viewing the creatures in the recent Netflix film Bird Box caused people to suicide and Go Mad From The Revelation. But Bird Box isn't exactly Lovecraftian or a Cosmic Horror Story. If we want to keep the original meaning of Eldritch Abomination there has to be another category for non-Lovecraft creatures who presence can cause a Brown Note or other affect. Deadly Gaze doesn't work because that is the creature looking at the person, and not the person experiencing harm from just seeing or being near them. Taken for Granite is too specific in that the victim turns to stone, but even that trope is being contaminated with petrification & non-stone effects for the unlucky gazer.

Libraryseraph Take my revolution! from Canada Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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Apr 20th 2019 at 1:18:19 PM

[up] Might be worth taking to the TLP. I;d give it a look if you did

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EmilaSkytracker from Spending too much time on TV Tropes Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Apr 20th 2019 at 7:07:06 PM

OK. I'm asking for a more experienced Troper to comment on this situation. The Brown Note trope already has Brown Note Creatures like Medusas, Basilisks, and those creatures from Bird Box whose sight drove people suicidal. So the non-EldritchAbominations creatures are already under another Trope Brown Note.

But I don't think this is enough. My guess is that people want a creature SubTrope like Brown Note Creature. Sometimes the same but more specific is needed. I'd like to know a list of Fantastic Creatures with dangerous sensory input without having to filter them out of Brown Note. But can somebody give me perspective before I do the work of launching a new trope which might be shot down or discarded???

Apr 20th 2019 at 7:39:54 PM

[up] I'd like to, but I'm a little confused about what exactly you're asking for, no offense. What do you mean by "perspective"?

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EmilaSkytracker from Spending too much time on TV Tropes Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Apr 20th 2019 at 8:42:50 PM

Thank you Imperial Majesty XO. Although I've been reading the Tropes site for years, I'm new to the forums and the rules. It is interesting to see how much clean up effort is continuously needed to this wiki in shape.

An experienced person's take on the easiest way to keep Eldritch Abomination clean, or if it is possible. I'm too much of a newbie to initiate any major clean up work myself, but I'd love to hear an experienced person's take on strategy.

The crickets I hear tell me that my idea doesn't translate, to lessen Eldritch Abomination becoming a catchall by separating out Brown Note Creatures.

Edited by EmilaSkytracker on Apr 21st 2019 at 11:30:21 AM

EmilaSkytracker from Spending too much time on TV Tropes Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Apr 20th 2019 at 9:40:04 PM

The actual description of Eldritch Abomination has seemingly inappropriate Subtropes within Subtropes.

How is a scary Santa a subcategory of Lovecraft's Eldritch Abomination?? It seems strange that the Old Testament became a sub-category of Lovecraft with Angelic Abomination. I guess Angels, Devils and Squid are here to stay.

Botanical Abomination sounds like any exceptionally weird plant hybrid. The bar seems low for abominable creatures so divinely twisted they can break someone's sense of reality. I'm starting to think Trope Decay is unavoidable for Eldritch Abomination.


Subtrope of Our Monsters Are Different and Our Monsters Are Weird.
For Eldritch Abomination with a specific appearance, see:
* Adorable Abomination

Edited by EmilaSkytracker on Apr 21st 2019 at 11:25:47 AM

Libraryseraph Take my revolution! from Canada Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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Apr 21st 2019 at 1:17:49 PM

Personally, I'm fine with the subtropes, provided they could get cleaned up and watched in the same way I'm hoping for with the main trope

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Apr 21st 2019 at 1:38:43 PM

Don't quote me on this, but I think Cthulhu is an example of the trope in Lovecraft's stories. It's just that, as explained in an Extra Credits video, the popular perception of him as just a giant octopus-dragon is extremely simplified.

Also, don't ask me why this trope is, judging by wick count, more common than most of the Moments.

Edited by Lymantria on Apr 21st 2019 at 4:41:20 AM

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Libraryseraph Take my revolution! from Canada Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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Apr 21st 2019 at 1:43:46 PM

I started a trs thread for this, if anyone’s interested

It’s because people think an eldritch abomination is scarier than a plain old monster, so they just shoehorn stuff in to make their fave series seem cooler

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EmilaSkytracker from Spending too much time on TV Tropes Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Apr 28th 2019 at 9:49:03 PM

I created a super trope for Eldritch Abomination if that helps, Brown Note Being. This is so people will stop classifying every Brown Note creature as an Eldritch Abomination. Ghost, ghoulies, and other creatures with a charge to their appearance can go under a super trope.

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Jul 14th 2019 at 10:36:48 PM

Pokémon I'm certain has some misuse. Especially Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza, who are more like simply large monsters than Lovecratian beings

Edited by KingofNightmares on Jul 17th 2019 at 9:52:08 AM

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