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Apr 2nd 2019 at 1:04:29 AM

You may as well consider me the biggest elephant in the room for doing this, but I'm afraid it's time we give the Youngsters index some cleanup to make its definition more precise. I already addressed this on the Discussion page, but to no avail.

Anyways, this trope seems to be about kids, except there's one problem here... It also contains tropes relating to teenagers. Now, yes, the term "child" overlaps with "teenager" if the person in question is under the legal age of majority (which is 18 in most countries), but the biological definition is made clear that it is a human being who has yet to reach the onset of puberty. That being said, the definition differs from biological and legal perspectives. To drive it home, there is also a sub-index dealing with adolescence called Teenage Tropes, so there's no need for the tropes in said index to overlap with those in Youngsters unless by "child" or "kid" it means non-adult (e.g. Children Forced to Kill, Kiddie Kid, Kid Hero, all deal with those under majority).

In my personal opinion, Youngsters should have all the tropes exclusive to teenagers removed since there's already an index that deals with it more precisely. Since Babies, Babies Everywhere is properly distinct from the Youngsters index, Teenage Tropes should follow suit.

This will not only cater to the separate biological, legal, neurological, physical, and psychological definitions of a child, but also make the pubescent newcomers lurking here less confused.

Klavice As if! from Pacific Canada Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
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Apr 2nd 2019 at 6:21:54 PM

Oh man, I have been dying to do this.

Zidane Tribal is listed as both a Kid A Nova and a Kid Hero when he is 16, making him a teenager. I think the problem is there's no Teen Hero trope that I know of, instead listing Teens Are Monsters, which means characters under 18 (and sometimes the drinking age in US) are considered Kid Hero.

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SeptimusHeap from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Apr 2nd 2019 at 11:57:54 PM

Pardon, but as the index itself says teenagers are a fair game for this index.

naturalironist from The Information Superhighway Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Apr 3rd 2019 at 3:35:33 PM

[up][up]That seems to be more of a problem with the individual tropes than with the index.

Kid Hero itself says that characters ages 8-17 are fair game, if you don't like it you should take the trope to the Trope Repair Shop to be redefined.

"It's just a show; I should really just relax"
Apr 3rd 2019 at 4:14:51 PM

This doesn't really look like a long-term project, more like a TRS or short-term project.

BrightLight YOU WILL NOT TAKE HER FROM ME!!! from The Southern Water Tribe
Jun 11th 2019 at 8:13:56 PM

Yeah, I'm with Septimus Heap and naturalironist.

The Youngsters index doesn't need a clean-up.

Pichu-kun ...
Jun 12th 2019 at 4:38:00 AM

Kid Hero applies to teens as well as preteens. The previous image was even of the Teen Titans. There's not much of a difference when it comes to ten year old heroes vs fifteen year old heroes.

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