The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
It makes no narrative sense. It does make merchandising sense though. It's so much easier to print a helmet than a recognizable Adam face
Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
To be a Master
Well, it seems that the prediction of Episode IX has apparently come to pass...
Namely that JJ Abrams is going TFA throwback to the point that TLJ is barely referenced at all if the poster is accurate. This I wonder and worry of what kind of tone and vision did JJ actually have in store for the final chapter.
Cause backtracking what TLJ established to appease angered fans can leave neither side happy.
Edited by Shadao on Mar 28th 2019 at 2:57:17 AM
The Unknown
I've soured on TLJ over time so I'm fine with that.
Edited by Karxrida on Mar 28th 2019 at 4:34:07 AM
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Is there proof the poster is real?
The Protomen enhanced my life.
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Yeah, I want to trust the poster that has C 3 PO with a bow caster, a complete lack of Rose Tico, and the Knights of Ren, but we have zero proof if it’s real.
Edited by Beatman1 on Mar 28th 2019 at 8:10:19 AM
I asked that in the second post in this thread. No response.
Disasturbator
it may be fake but it gives us something to talk about
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Honestly, the poster looks so generic it barely gives us anything to talk about. No new characters, no new settings, no new vehicles. They could have released it before TFA and it would work.
How Disneyland will attempt to handle the crowds it was not designed for, when Star Wars Land Opens:
While Disneyland is surely happy to have you visit for the most highly anticipated land opening in the history of the parks, you can’t stay all day. If you’re lucky enough to get into the land, Disneyland will restrict the amount of time you’re allowed to spend in the land with your reservation.
Disneyland Vice President Kris Theiler said that guests will be able to enjoy a “window” of time, with both a start time and an end time.
“We will be giving guests a window of time, but we’re still working through what that looks like and the duration for that. We’ll be working hard to ensure that guests have enough time in the land to see all the great things and experience the attraction. We know guests might want to stay in there all day, but we’ve got a whole big group that wants to get in there. We’re just trying to balance all those things and really deliver the right solution for our guests.” -Disneyland Vice President Kris Theiler
No Standby Line
Disneyland Vice President Kris Theiler said this about the prospect of getting into Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge without a free reservation.
“There will be no standby access to the land and we want to make sure that that’s clear for guests. We don’t want guests coming to the park thinking, ‘I don’t have a reservation. Maybe I’ll just get in the queue and I’ll be able to get in.’ We’re not going to have a standby line. So it will be limited solely to those guests that have reservations.” -Disneyland Vice President Kris Theiler
Every registered guest staying at the Disneyland Hotel, Disney’s Grand Californian, or Disney’s Paradise Pier will receive one reservation into the new land. Guests who aren’t staying at one of those hotels will need to make a free reservation ahead of time.
No details have been released as to when guests can register.
Bathroom Pass
While the above policies are meant to make crowds more manageable, there will still be an hours-long wait to pilot the Millennium Falcon when the land opens. For some guests, the prospect of having no bathroom available to them in the queue after they just loaded up on blue milk could be a daunting task. Thankfully, Disneyland will have a new policy in place – the bathroom pass.
The policy at Disney will mirror the policy that has been in place since 2017 in Pandora – The World of Avatar. Guests who have visited Pandora since the land opened have likely experienced at least a two hour wait for Flight of Passage, if not longer. Disney implemented the bathroom pass in mid-to-late 2017, a few months after the new land opened for the headliner attraction according to multiple Cast Members we spoke with who have worked at the land since opening.
Here’s how the bathroom pass works:
Guests who need to use the restroom must have one person in their party stay in line and continue to move through the line as they normally would. Then, the guest in question can move forward or backward through the queue to find a Cast Member who will produce the Bathroom Pass. Upon relief, you’ll refuting the Fast Pass entrance where you’ll have produce the Bathroom Pass. You will walk through the Fast Pass line until you reach a merge point. It’s at the merge point that you’ll wait in the Bathroom Pass waiting area until the other members of your party catch up with you and continue through the queue.
It’s important to note that these operational policies are for Disneyland. Walt Disney World will not have a reservation system, so guests will be able to walk into the land or queue up to enter the land should the land reach capacity when it opens August 29th. The bathroom pass will very likely be implemented in Walt Disney World as well.
I have no clue what this rumor about JJ Abrams ignoring The Last Jedi is all about. But this rumor that a big plot element is a civil war within the First Order sounds interesting. Obviously the two factions would be led by Kylo Ren and General Hux, respectively. The movies have never been subtle about their rivalry - at the very end of TLJ, there was a very clear tension over who was in charge now that Snoke was dead. It sounds like a pretty fresh premise to make this movie stand out - no more complaints about repeating the plot of the original trilogy
It wouldn't necessarily be wise to backtrack heavily from TLJ for a few reasons. You don't want to bend over backwards for people who frankly, probably won't be pleased no matter what you do. Plus, it's not like TLJ doesn't have fans.
To be fair, since this is Abrams, I'm expecting a pretty different movie anyways.
Edited by Protagonist506 on Mar 28th 2019 at 3:06:21 AM
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
Disasturbator
Imagine if Kylo's knights are the ones leading the other faction,although they may drop knights of Ren at that point
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To be a Master
It's not really a rumor. More of a speculation of what Episode IX has to do in order to get fans who were burned by TLJ. And the common conclusion is ignoring TLJ as much as it can. And given JJ Abrams' track record of fan appeasement, it's not something I would be rooting for despite my dislike for TLJ.
Cause that kind of backtrack would lead to a Justice League fiasco for the Star Wars fandom.
Justice League Fiasco? Can you explain?
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
Basically the Justice League movie attempted to be retroactively more hopeful and similar to the comics, but it came off as too little too late.
I just want JJ to leave the ol’ mystery box alone. Rey’s parents are dead.
Fix-ficcing is an awful, awful idea that never works out in a serious series, and much as I'm on the fence about Abrams' work there's no way he doesn't know that.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Disasturbator
> Rey’s parents are dead.
One of then could be,I expect at least one of them to emerge at some point
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That all you got?
We've never actually heard what happened to Rey's parents. All we know is they apparently abandoned her, but whether they're dead or Kylo was lying remains to be seen.
That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.
The Head of the Hydra
Whoever they are, they are “nobodies”.
So they could be engineers, could be pirates, could be bartenders, who knows.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Disasturbator
> Kylo was lying remains to be seen.
This is what I've believed for a long time now,to sway her over to his side he lied to her,he's a sith,it's what they do as a manipulation tactic
New theme music also a box
But she answered him about who they were first. Kylo making something up wouldn't work at all as manipulation if she already knew the truth.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 28th 2019 at 7:07:49 AM
On one hand, I find Rey's parents being nobody the audience should care about a fairly good idea (I prefer the idea of a 'nobody' hero over a mythical chosen one-it invokes The American Dream and all that jazz).
On the other hand, it turning out that Kylo was lying would also be a pretty clever plot twist. Audiences expect Kylo to be telling the truth due to narrative convention, but if you think about it, it's actually 100% possible Kylo's lying. Hell, I'm not entirely sure Kylo would know.
This actually was something that came up in Empire Strikes Back IIRC-there was some debate over whether Vader was telling the truth, and they included the scene of Luke getting confirmation from Yoda because of this.
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
Kylo turning out to have been lying would just feel like a 'Fix it!' moment for the writers and wouldn't feel genuine to me.
Plus, I genuinely liked Last Jedi. Last Jedi and Empire Strikes Back are my favorite of the franchise now.
I'd probably feel pretty shunned if IX tries to ignore or retcon Last Jedi as much as possible. Last Jedi is the one that sold me on Star Wars after not quite loving it and then really liking Force Awakens. And I stick with Cinema Wins' feelings; Last Jedi feels strange because its the middle chapter of a trilogy and we don't quite know where the story is going, Empire had similar criticisms back in the day (and then over-corrected into Ewoks, mind you), and a lot of it will feel better once we have the complete picture.
The Head of the Hydra
Who cares about the movies anyway? 
The EU is where it’s at.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
He destroyed the helmet partly as a response to Snoke taunting him. If he genuinely liked the helmet then killing Snoke kinda erases the need to not be seen wearing it.
Also if all the other Knights of Ren have masks then he needs one to keep the team theme going.
"What a century this week has been." - Seung Min Kim