Edit: I've created the index. So far I've added only those pages that have mandatory waiting periods already in effect.
It's been brought up in a few places recently (most notably in this ATT thread
) that we have a few tropes / Audience Reactions / etc. that have mandatory waiting periods before being added. The suggestion has been made— which I tend to agree with— that some sort of index to keep track of which tropes have waiting periods and what those periods are would be helpful.
Besides what's already on the index, we've got:
- Specific Mandatory Waiting Period Suggested:
- Critical Dissonance - Brought up here
as being too early to call on release weekend. Fighteer suggests a one-month mandatory waiting period on all similar "reception tropes."
- Overshadowed by Controversy - a 6-month mandatory waiting period has been suggested
but not agreed upon yet
- The Scrappy - Due to its close association with Base-Breaking Character and its status as a complaining magnet, has been suggested for a 6-month waiting period in this thread.
- Critical Dissonance - Brought up here
- No specific waiting period has been suggested, but adding it too early has caused problems:
- Eight Deadly Words - It was suggested here
that the below should apply to this as well
- So Bad, It's Good - Fighteer noted here
that the weekend of release was too early to apply tropes like these
- So Okay, It's Average - see above
- Eight Deadly Words - It was suggested here
Template tag for work pages:
%% Per Administrivia/NoRecentExamplesPlease, do not add [Trope] until [X] months/days/weeks after the episode's release (Month Date, Year).
Use this date calculator
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- As mentioned here
, the consensus is that NREP warnings in trope page descriptions can use bold text so that they stand out.
Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 23rd 2024 at 9:41:59 AM
As much as I am in favour of cutting out all contemporary political examples from EnemyMine.Real Life, we should develop a consensus to do so first.
Should there be a crowner?
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It would be best to set a crowner up now. Entries can be added individually later on.
I'm thinking that Dishonored Dead might benefit from a 100-150 year NREP - listing recent RL serial killers and rapists seems distasteful, and we have a similar policy on other tropes they turn up in?
The stuff with the 150-year limit is generally directly about the death of the person. Dishonored Dead is about someone else's reaction to the death.
A NREP makes sense, but it only needs to be around 25 years.
Whoops wrong thread
Edited by PlasmaPower on May 27th 2024 at 9:46:33 AM
Thomas fans needed! Come join me in the the show's cleanup thread!Continuing from the Locked Pages thread in Frequently Asked Questions, and in light of current events you might hear about soon if you haven't already...
Should KangarooCourt.Real Life be NREP? I'm thinking along the lines of 50-100 years to avoid ROCEJ violations about active or recent court cases. 100 might be a little too harsh if there are some valid examples roughly 70-80 years old, but I still think it should be at least 50.
Edited by AnotherOnlinePersona on May 30th 2024 at 3:19:17 AM
50 years sounds reasonable to me.
On empty crossroads, seek the eclipse -- for when Sol and Lua align, the lost shall find their way home.Dishonored Dead was mentioned earlier in the thread - I'd suggested 100-150 years, in line with Hanging Judge and the various death tropes.
25 was then suggested in one post, but that still allows at least one of the modern serial killers I was personally uncomfortable with (Fred West, died 1995
).
How do folk feel about a 50 year NREP on RL examples?
Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 10th 2024 at 7:23:25 PM
They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot and They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character were mentioned in passing on the previous page.
I'd agree that they need to wait for release, and possibly a bit longer in some cases. So how about:
- Not until release for Films and non-episodic works (we might want to add a week, I guess, but once it's released, nothing's going to change?)
- End of season (or six months if there are no season breaks) for episodic works. Enough time to ensure they're not teasing something they'll do later.
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Crown Description:
These are pages where it has been proposed to limit some or all examples (e.g. all Real Life examples) to those before a certain point in time, usually for reasons of the Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment or recency bias. Please discuss tropes in the thread before adding them; entries added without discussion are subject to deletion. Proposed time limits may be over a rolling period (e.g. "no examples from the past 6 months") or a fixed point in time (e.g. "no examples after 1975"). Vote UP to agree with a proposed change; vote DOWN to disagree. If an item has a (CLOSED) on it, there is no need to vote on it; the result has already been decided, meeting the following requirements:- They have ten or more total votes,
- have been on the crowner for at least a week, measured from when the addition of the new crowner entry is announced in a thread post,
- and are stable with at least a 2:1 vote ratio.

Edited by CanuckMcDuck1 on May 17th 2024 at 1:56:50 PM
Do not mess with creatures which you do not understand.