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NREP - "No Recent Examples Please" cleanup (new crowner June 3, 2025)

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Edit: I've created the index. So far I've added only those pages that have mandatory waiting periods already in effect.

It's been brought up in a few places recently (most notably in this ATT thread) that we have a few tropes / Audience Reactions / etc. that have mandatory waiting periods before being added. The suggestion has been made— which I tend to agree with— that some sort of index to keep track of which tropes have waiting periods and what those periods are would be helpful.

Besides what's already on the index, we've got:


Template tag for work pages:

%% Per Administrivia/NoRecentExamplesPlease, do not add [Trope] until [X] months/days/weeks after the episode's release (Month Date, Year).

Use this date calculator to add the amount of months/days/weeks in accordance to No Recent Examples, Please!.


  • As mentioned here, the consensus is that NREP warnings in trope page descriptions can use bold text so that they stand out.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 23rd 2024 at 9:41:59 AM

CanuckMcDuck1 PEPSIMAN from Japan Since: Sep, 2023 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
PEPSIMAN
#1426: May 17th 2024 at 12:56:31 PM

[up]I think we could just cut all of the Enemy Mine political entries, personally, minus the historical examples. I think they are Flame Bait waiting to happen.

Edited by CanuckMcDuck1 on May 17th 2024 at 1:56:50 PM

Do not mess with creatures which you do not understand.
bwburke94 I am mad scientist! It's so cool! from 1.048596% (Y2: Electric Boogaloo) Relationship Status: She does the things you do, but she is an IBM
I am mad scientist! It's so cool!
#1427: May 17th 2024 at 1:00:51 PM

"Minus the historical examples" is exactly what the question is...

2025: the year it all ends?
Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#1428: May 17th 2024 at 1:19:41 PM

As much as I am in favour of cutting out all contemporary political examples from EnemyMine.Real Life, we should develop a consensus to do so first.

Should there be a crowner?

Kirby is awesome.
Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#1429: May 17th 2024 at 1:34:17 PM

Any such decision needs a crowner. I'll set one up - I know we've got some other candidates discussed on the thread recently, too.

Edited by Mrph1 on May 17th 2024 at 9:34:22 AM

dsneybuf (Not-So-Newbie)
#1430: May 21st 2024 at 6:05:25 AM

Could I suggest adding "Examples are not recent" to the list of Common Edit Reasons?

RallyBot2 (Elder Troper) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
#1431: May 21st 2024 at 9:21:55 AM

[up]Not the right thread for this. Try asking elsewhere.

Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#1432: May 21st 2024 at 7:14:26 PM

[up][up][up]It would be best to set a crowner up now. Entries can be added individually later on.

Kirby is awesome.
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#1433: May 22nd 2024 at 8:57:43 AM

I'm thinking that Dishonored Dead might benefit from a 100-150 year NREP - listing recent RL serial killers and rapists seems distasteful, and we have a similar policy on other tropes they turn up in?

RallyBot2 (Elder Troper) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
#1434: May 26th 2024 at 6:38:03 AM

[up]The stuff with the 150-year limit is generally directly about the death of the person. Dishonored Dead is about someone else's reaction to the death.

A NREP makes sense, but it only needs to be around 25 years.

PlasmaPower Piece of Cake. Since: Jan, 2015
Piece of Cake.
#1435: May 27th 2024 at 9:44:24 PM

Whoops wrong thread

Edited by PlasmaPower on May 27th 2024 at 9:46:33 AM

Thomas fans needed! Come join me in the the show's cleanup thread!
AnotherOnlinePersona Killed by Chills from Harlequin Forest Since: Dec, 2022
Killed by Chills
#1436: May 30th 2024 at 3:08:56 PM

Continuing from the Locked Pages thread in Frequently Asked Questions, and in light of current events you might hear about soon if you haven't already...

Should KangarooCourt.Real Life be NREP? I'm thinking along the lines of 50-100 years to avoid ROCEJ violations about active or recent court cases. 100 might be a little too harsh if there are some valid examples roughly 70-80 years old, but I still think it should be at least 50.

Edited by AnotherOnlinePersona on May 30th 2024 at 3:19:17 AM

costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
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Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#1438: May 30th 2024 at 6:47:55 PM

I'm good with a 50-year cutoff.

Kirby is awesome.
bwburke94 I am mad scientist! It's so cool! from 1.048596% (Y2: Electric Boogaloo) Relationship Status: She does the things you do, but she is an IBM
I am mad scientist! It's so cool!
#1439: May 30th 2024 at 6:51:31 PM

I can't see it going much beyond 50 years. I'd actually prefer a bit less in theory, but 50 is a nice round number.

2025: the year it all ends?
Echidna from Ontario, Canada (Striking Back) Relationship Status: Two-timing
#1440: May 30th 2024 at 6:53:32 PM

50 is a lucky number so it's the most logical.

Edited by Echidna on May 30th 2024 at 9:53:49 AM

animuacid The girl of the window from Astyr residence in Lilysthia's grounds Since: Jan, 2024 Relationship Status: I love you for psychological reasons
The girl of the window
#1441: May 30th 2024 at 11:36:41 PM

25 or 50 are fine.

Riolugirl Just "Rio" is fine! from Planet Sparkles (spaaaarklleeees...) (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: It's a god-awful small affair
Just "Rio" is fine!
#1442: May 31st 2024 at 1:21:16 AM

50 works for me.

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Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#1445: Jun 10th 2024 at 10:12:48 AM

Crowner's hooked and that's added as the first item. I'll look back through the thread and see what else we've got as a possible addition.

Clock starts when the ATT post goes up to publicise them.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#1446: Jun 10th 2024 at 11:23:16 AM

Dishonored Dead was mentioned earlier in the thread - I'd suggested 100-150 years, in line with Hanging Judge and the various death tropes.

25 was then suggested in one post, but that still allows at least one of the modern serial killers I was personally uncomfortable with (Fred West, died 1995).

How do folk feel about a 50 year NREP on RL examples?

Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 10th 2024 at 7:23:25 PM

Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#1447: Jun 11th 2024 at 1:02:43 AM

ATT post is up, so clock starts now on the first three items.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#1448: Jun 11th 2024 at 9:30:31 AM

They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot and They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character were mentioned in passing on the previous page.

I'd agree that they need to wait for release, and possibly a bit longer in some cases. So how about:

  • Not until release for Films and non-episodic works (we might want to add a week, I guess, but once it's released, nothing's going to change?)
  • End of season (or six months if there are no season breaks) for episodic works. Enough time to ensure they're not teasing something they'll do later.

Views?

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#1449: Jun 11th 2024 at 9:56:05 AM

Release date/end of season sounds good. Any longer than that sounds overly excessive.

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP

Projects: Long Term/Perpetual: NREP crowner - June 3, 2025
3rd Jun '25 1:03:35 AM

Crown Description:

These are pages where it has been proposed to limit some or all examples (e.g. all Real Life examples) to those before a certain point in time, usually for reasons of the Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment or recency bias. Please discuss tropes in the thread before adding them; entries added without discussion are subject to deletion.

Proposed time limits may be over a rolling period (e.g. "no examples from the past 6 months") or a fixed point in time (e.g. "no examples after 1975").

Vote UP to agree with a proposed change; vote DOWN to disagree.

If an item has a (CLOSED) on it, there is no need to vote on it; the result has already been decided, meeting the following requirements:
  • They have ten or more total votes,
  • have been on the crowner for at least a week, measured from when the addition of the new crowner entry is announced in a thread post,
  • and are stable with at least a 2:1 vote ratio.

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