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NREP - "No Recent Examples Please" cleanup (new crowner June 3, 2025)

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Edit: I've created the index. So far I've added only those pages that have mandatory waiting periods already in effect.

It's been brought up in a few places recently (most notably in this ATT thread) that we have a few tropes / Audience Reactions / etc. that have mandatory waiting periods before being added. The suggestion has been made— which I tend to agree with— that some sort of index to keep track of which tropes have waiting periods and what those periods are would be helpful.

Besides what's already on the index, we've got:


Template tag for work pages:

%% Per Administrivia/NoRecentExamplesPlease, do not add [Trope] until [X] months/days/weeks after the episode's release (Month Date, Year).

Use this date calculator to add the amount of months/days/weeks in accordance to No Recent Examples, Please!.


  • As mentioned here, the consensus is that NREP warnings in trope page descriptions can use bold text so that they stand out.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 23rd 2024 at 9:41:59 AM

AudioSpeaks2 Since: Apr, 2022
#1326: Nov 17th 2023 at 5:24:09 PM

Should we do something similar to ThePurge.Real Life?

Again, the very, very old examples are definitely ok. But I'd just like to see what other tropers think of the very recent examples.

Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#1327: Nov 17th 2023 at 5:49:23 PM

[up]I would prohibit examples within the past 50 years.

Kirby is awesome.
gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
Musician/Composer
#1328: Nov 27th 2023 at 9:45:55 AM

So, I've been thinking: what should we do about the waiting period for the Sequel Gap trope?

Edited by gjjones on Nov 27th 2023 at 12:48:00 PM

He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#1329: Nov 27th 2023 at 9:49:21 AM

[up] It's already at No Recent Examples, Please!, so aside its comment what else needs to be done about it?

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gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
Musician/Composer
#1330: Nov 27th 2023 at 10:08:01 AM

[up] Oh, I was just wondering.

He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
MissConduct (Septatroper)
#1331: Nov 30th 2023 at 6:41:18 AM

A little late to the party but I'll [tup] the idea of NREP for Insult Backfire and The Purge.

Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#1332: Nov 30th 2023 at 2:10:21 PM

[up]Don't forget about Frivolous Lawsuit!

I'm proposing no real-life examples for Insult Backfire, The Purge, and Frivolous Lawsuit within the past 50 years for all three.

Edited by Nen_desharu on Nov 30th 2023 at 5:12:25 AM

Kirby is awesome.
randomtroper89 from The Fire Nation Since: Nov, 2010
#1333: Nov 30th 2023 at 11:42:50 PM

If 1983 is the cutoff we have to cut everything except the Roman salt patent (hundreds of years ago) and the Frusen Glädjé lawsuit (1980).

EDIT: The Thunderball suit also fits the deadline.

Edited by randomtroper89 on Nov 30th 2023 at 1:54:28 PM

MsOranjeDiscoDancer 2much2furious from the Saja Boys' last performance! Since: Aug, 2022 Relationship Status: Will you go out with me to the End?
2much2furious
#1334: Dec 1st 2023 at 9:34:28 AM

[up][up]i'd prefer the cutoff for Frivolous Lawsuit be 10 years (max 20 or 25), especially since a lot of fictional appearances are based on the lawsuit craze that exploded in the mid 2000s

at the very least, covering the mcdonalds hot coffee incident (which happened in '92 and was an inspiration for other fictional mockery thanks to it getting smeared as a 'huh huh the coffee was too hot' by mcdonald's and not receiving third-degree burns) should be okay

also what [up] said

the others im fine with a 50 year cutoff, though i think a 30 year cutoff is fine

Edited by MsOranjeDiscoDancer on Dec 1st 2023 at 9:35:09 AM

i may be dead inside but at least i have Mystery :,)
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000)
#1335: Dec 1st 2023 at 9:37:46 AM

Should the coffee incident actually be there? The whole point is that the incident wasn't frivolous at all, so it feels bizarre to bring it up (it's not like you can "subvert" real life or something like that).

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MsOranjeDiscoDancer 2much2furious from the Saja Boys' last performance! Since: Aug, 2022 Relationship Status: Will you go out with me to the End?
2much2furious
#1336: Dec 1st 2023 at 9:49:07 AM

it isnt really subverted insomuch as that it inspired a lot of fictional examples/mockery/comparisons deriding it as such when the reality was worse. i can start grabbing a list of all the fictional references based on or referring to it

i forget the exact term (trope or otherwise) for when a fictional work bases a gag or plot device on Common Knowledge or near Urban Myth. it's similar to the "corona beer is going under because of COVID" stuff

Edited by MsOranjeDiscoDancer on Dec 1st 2023 at 9:50:39 AM

i may be dead inside but at least i have Mystery :,)
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000)
#1337: Dec 1st 2023 at 9:51:44 AM

I know, but... it's tricky. I know it's "not a subversion", that's not really what I was saying. I was saying that since the lawsuit was objectively not frivolous, it seems like misuse to have it in the section. I mean, we could focus on the media spin, but... It just feels off to me.

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TheUnsquished Filthy Casual from A youngun between two oldies Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Filthy Casual
#1338: Dec 1st 2023 at 9:55:27 AM

What do people think about making Defiant to the End NREP?

(Annoyed grunt)
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#1339: Dec 1st 2023 at 10:05:41 AM

...why? What purpose would that serve?

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000)
#1340: Dec 1st 2023 at 10:07:02 AM

It was being discussed at the NRLEP thread as a way to cut down on ROCEJ-ish entries.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#1341: Dec 1st 2023 at 10:09:33 AM

But Defiant to the End isn't a YMMV or Trivia trope. It's just a narrative/character trope. Why would we restrict its usage when it's describing stuff that's explicitly happening inside a work of fiction?

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000)
#1342: Dec 1st 2023 at 10:30:05 AM

We're talking about restricting the Real Life examples, like we do with other tropes.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#1343: Dec 1st 2023 at 10:32:25 AM

Oh...there are Real Life examples of DTTE?

Huh. Okay, carry on.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
MsOranjeDiscoDancer 2much2furious from the Saja Boys' last performance! Since: Aug, 2022 Relationship Status: Will you go out with me to the End?
2much2furious
#1344: Dec 1st 2023 at 11:11:10 AM

"I know, but... it's tricky. I know it's "not a subversion", that's not really what I was saying. I was saying that since the lawsuit was objectively not frivolous, it seems like misuse to have it in the section. I mean, we could focus on the media spin, but... It just feels off to me."

understandable

imo it had enough of an effect on pop culture (at least, American/Western pop culture); the reputation of it as such should be noted

i know We Are Not Wikipedia but the case article does cite its influence on other actually frivolous lawsuits, the debate, and even Seinfeld episodes based on it

i may be dead inside but at least i have Mystery :,)
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It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000)
#1345: Dec 1st 2023 at 11:12:09 AM

Maybe a mention in the description about how a lot of examples are based on that lawsuit, which doesn't actually fit the trope IRL?

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MsOranjeDiscoDancer 2much2furious from the Saja Boys' last performance! Since: Aug, 2022 Relationship Status: Will you go out with me to the End?
2much2furious
#1347: Dec 1st 2023 at 12:07:08 PM

[up][up]hmm, imo id prefer it to be a bulletpoint in itself but that is a good compromise if the thread determines it doesnt count (especially since the image refers to it)

as they say: "Chat, what y'all think", should it be in the description or should it warrant a bulletpoint?

[up]i personally prefer ten, especially since it covers the Jack Thompson controversies and the Guinness World Record holder for lawsuits

Edited by MsOranjeDiscoDancer on Dec 1st 2023 at 12:07:46 PM

i may be dead inside but at least i have Mystery :,)
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000)
#1348: Dec 1st 2023 at 12:17:18 PM

Aside from the example, yeah 10 may be fine

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TheUnsquished Filthy Casual from A youngun between two oldies Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Filthy Casual
#1349: Dec 1st 2023 at 12:24:28 PM

I'd go with ten.

(Annoyed grunt)
plakythebirb The Unwilling Cycle from The Deep South (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Unwilling Cycle
#1350: Dec 1st 2023 at 1:06:28 PM

Maybe the coffee lawsuit could be referenced on the Analysis page for Frivolous Lawsuit? Feels like it would fit there more, as it's something that can be analyzed as having influenced examples of the trope, instead of being something central to the trope's definition.

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Crown Description:

These are pages where it has been proposed to limit some or all examples (e.g. all Real Life examples) to those before a certain point in time, usually for reasons of the Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment or recency bias. Please discuss tropes in the thread before adding them; entries added without discussion are subject to deletion.

Proposed time limits may be over a rolling period (e.g. "no examples from the past 6 months") or a fixed point in time (e.g. "no examples after 1975").

Vote UP to agree with a proposed change; vote DOWN to disagree.

If an item has a (CLOSED) on it, there is no need to vote on it; the result has already been decided, meeting the following requirements:
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  • and are stable with at least a 2:1 vote ratio.

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