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Per Ask The Tropers, this thread will be used to reduce the number of old, poorly written drafts on the Trope Launch Pad. We don't want to discuss on the drafts themselves because that will bump them and mix them with active proposals.

Sandbox for the project: Trope Launch Pad Discard Project
Sandbox for discarded drafts but viable ideas: Trope Idea Salvage Yard

The first sandbox page above contains drafts proposed in the thread that are still pending and drafts that we've decided to leave alone, either with no action or a bump.
The second sandbox page is for awful drafts but viable ideas. According to moderators, badly written but interesting/tropeworthy drafts should remain on the TLP. Rather than allow low-effort drafts to clog TLP, though, the salvage yard was opened to keep just the ideas behind them, in one place.

On this thread, we will mention which drafts we think are unworkable, add enough bombs, and discard (nuke) them. Discarding requires at least 5 bombs. Among the features of "unworkable" drafts:

  • There have been no edits for a very long time, or at all
  • The draft is low-effort, containing atrocious spelling and grammar and/or little to no examples, e.g. NEVER saw THAT coming (!), Nut-Chuks
  • The draft was seemingly created so the sponsor could complain
  • The topic is People Sit on Chairs, Too Rare to Trope, a search query created by mistake, etc. and therefore not tropeworthy
  • The topic is already sufficiently covered by one or more tropes or is a duplicate of a better-written TLP draft
  • The draft is problematic in other ways, such being closely tied to a page that has been historically problematic, e.g. Fetish Fuel, Complete Monster
  • There's no discussion currently occurring in the comments to improve the proposal

If we decide to discard a draft after discussion via this thread, whoever does so must provide the discard reason in the comment section of the draft, for transparency's sake. Those looking at the discards section won't think it was nuked for no reason.

Also, check out the sister project, Trope Adoption Drive, where good drafts put Up for Grabs or abandoned can be grabbed, given a bit more improvement, and launched.

Edited by Tabs on Mar 24th 2022 at 12:02:43 PM

Vandagyre I think I just got AC team loyalty from Dacardia (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
I think I just got AC team loyalty
#1826: May 8th 2021 at 8:28:29 PM

Here’s a batch that already had a few bombs when I found them.

Edited by Vandagyre on Nov 25th 2021 at 7:51:21 AM

Cave Johnson, we're done here.
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#1827: May 8th 2021 at 9:28:14 PM

Ehh, I don't want to be a debbie-downer, but I'm wondering if we need more consensus or at least more discussion before we discard things with 9 hats like that. Technically, if we apply the net-hat logic to bombs, we needed 14 bombs to discard that.

Granted, that draft had a ton of issues, and I'm not saying it shouldn't have been discarded. Just...let's not be impulsive.

Edit: To be clear, I'm talking about the Ms. Bitters draft.

Edited by WarJay77 on May 8th 2021 at 12:32:00 PM

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Ordeaux26 Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#1828: May 8th 2021 at 9:32:45 PM

My bad their I didn't really think of that.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#1829: May 8th 2021 at 9:35:23 PM

Oh, I'm not blaming anybody. I just wanted to bring up the issue before it becomes a bigger issue at some point.

In general, let's not just plow through these drafts, bombs a-blazing. If one of the drafts in a pile is genuinely salvageable or at least has something salvageable about it, let's address it. I just don't want us to be so discard-happy that we nuke viable drafts in addition to bad ones.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Shadow8411 Since: Jul, 2019
#1830: May 9th 2021 at 12:46:52 AM

Edit: All five drafts have been nuked.

Edited by Shadow8411 on May 10th 2021 at 12:10:05 PM

MonaNaito Since: Jun, 2011
#1831: May 9th 2021 at 10:33:24 AM

[up][up][up][up][up] Oh, West Side Parody. Anybody catch that one was me? tongue (It was three years before ReferencedBy.West Side Story existed. Obviously I agree that it can go now.) I'll port those examples if nobody's done that yet.

EDIT: Examples transferred to the Referenced By page.

Edited by MonaNaito on May 10th 2021 at 12:26:24 PM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#1832: May 9th 2021 at 6:00:51 PM

Edited by WarJay77 on May 10th 2021 at 1:06:18 PM

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
MonaNaito Since: Jun, 2011
#1833: May 10th 2021 at 1:24:46 PM

Edited by MonaNaito on May 21st 2021 at 8:06:01 AM

AdeptGaderius Otaku from the Anime World Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Otaku
#1834: May 10th 2021 at 3:46:48 PM

Edited by AdeptGaderius on May 11th 2021 at 1:54:14 AM

underCoverSailsman Peeks from Under Rocks from State of Flux Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Peeks from Under Rocks
#1835: May 10th 2021 at 4:15:24 PM

[up]I think that RUP is more "Romance Episode" in the same way that we have Beach Episode. I'm not sure if it's tropable, but I think that the discussion on it so far has gone on a bit of a snipe hunt.

I did bomb RAD, but I think the discussion there is also a bit far afield. I think that it's Stock Footage applied to Cut Scene. Not sure if noting that in the comments would help clarify in case others try to resurrect it later.

AdeptGaderius Otaku from the Anime World Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Otaku
#1836: May 10th 2021 at 9:15:03 PM

Found even more:

Shadow8411 Since: Jul, 2019
#1837: May 10th 2021 at 10:37:22 PM

  • [up][up][up][up] All of the drafts have been nuked, except Instant Heroic Comeback, and even that draft is one bomb away from being nuked (after I bombed it).
  • [up][up][up] Genius Without a Cause and Repeated Astronomical Damage have been nuked.

Edited by Shadow8411 on May 10th 2021 at 10:38:58 AM

Shadow8411 Since: Jul, 2019
#1838: May 11th 2021 at 4:42:31 AM

Edited by Shadow8411 on May 18th 2021 at 6:01:34 AM

MonaNaito Since: Jun, 2011
#1839: May 17th 2021 at 9:10:01 AM

Haven't had a new batch in a few days, so here's some:

Edited by MonaNaito on May 17th 2021 at 3:25:42 PM

Shadow8411 Since: Jul, 2019
#1840: May 18th 2021 at 10:17:15 AM

Some drafts that already had bombs (and no hats) when I found them:

Edited by Shadow8411 on May 19th 2021 at 11:52:58 AM

MonaNaito Since: Jun, 2011
#1841: May 18th 2021 at 3:18:20 PM

Edited by MonaNaito on May 19th 2021 at 8:14:47 AM

magnumtropus Since: Aug, 2020
#1843: May 19th 2021 at 8:35:22 PM

Trope drafts with the 15 or more discards:

  • 1. Queer Gaze (Bombs outnumber hats)
  • 2. Racism is a special kind of evil (Bombs outnumber hats)
  • 3. Cisgender in the adaptation (4 more hats than bombs)
  • 4. Our Monsters are Unstereotypical (6 more hats than bombs)
  • 5. Gender Non Conforming equals gay (11 more hats than bombs)
  • 6. Plural Title (Bombs outnumber hats)
  • 7. Signature Role (2 more hats than bombs)
  • 8. Macabre Mediterranean (5 more hats than bombs)
  • 9. Black Swordsman Substitute (Bombs = Hats)
  • 10. Queer since childhood (3 more hats than bombs)
  • 11. Better than source (2 more hats than bombs)
  • 12. Trans in the Adaptation (5 more hats than bombs)
  • 13. Forced Hate Sink (Bombs outnumber hats)
  • 14. Doesn't understand sex (7 more hats than bombs)
  • 15. Spring Break Plot (4 more hats than bombs)

Edited by magnumtropus on May 19th 2021 at 8:36:11 AM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000)
#1844: May 19th 2021 at 8:36:00 PM

[up] Uh, we're gonna need links.

And a lot of discards doesn't necessarily mean the drafts need to be nuked.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
magnumtropus Since: Aug, 2020
#1845: May 19th 2021 at 8:37:18 PM

I sorted them by number of discards, and looked at the ratios. I think the ones with more bombs than hats can be discarded, but the others need further investigation.

Edited by magnumtropus on May 19th 2021 at 8:46:18 AM

Malady (X-Troper)
#1846: May 19th 2021 at 8:57:40 PM

Plural Title OP here.

I think it's a trope.

It's a Super-Trope of Species Title at least.

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MonaNaito Since: Jun, 2011
#1847: May 20th 2021 at 11:07:29 AM

^^^^ Some of the drafts mentioned here had activity as recently as earlier today and are clearly still under discussion.

Shadow8411 Since: Jul, 2019
#1848: May 20th 2021 at 12:04:14 PM

Only the following have at least 5 more bombs than hats (with the total numbers provided below in the form of "hats-bombs"):

Edited by Shadow8411 on May 20th 2021 at 12:05:46 PM

Malady (X-Troper)
#1849: May 20th 2021 at 12:52:32 PM

I'm working on my drafts that are closer to launching, first.

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underCoverSailsman Peeks from Under Rocks from State of Flux Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Peeks from Under Rocks
#1850: May 20th 2021 at 1:27:20 PM

[up][up]Racism trope was locked by a mod, the discussion had gotten around to (roughly) concluding that the tropeable concept was Hate Crimes are a special kind of evil. Would it make sense to scavenge and yard the relevant bits of that before requesting discard?


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