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Brainulator9 Regular garden-variety human from A nova - it doesn't go Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Regular garden-variety human
Mar 14th 2019 at 9:49:02 AM

[up] I was thinking that too. If it's not Too Rare to Trope, it might work on that page.

Also, I bombed everything on Water Blap's list.

Edited by Brainulator9 on Mar 15th 2019 at 10:07:17 AM

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WarJay77 Shocking, ain't it? from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Shocking, ain't it?
Mar 14th 2019 at 10:46:04 AM

Mothball Thick Envelope, Thin Envelope.

I forgot to go back to the rest of Tabs' list, I'm not going to bother making my own post about it now unless I discard something or want to argue against discarding something.

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XFllo Witch from Not Prague Relationship Status: Love potion #9
Witch
Mar 14th 2019 at 11:14:20 AM

My finds:

Potential:

  • Spaceships are for the Weak! — bad trope title, but the concept is very solid if we don't have it (characters or creatures that can travel through space under their own power, without any outside help. Might possibly include very advanced technology.)
  • Punks in Time — time travellers meet punks (weirdest people imaginable) — I find this to be a very amusing concept, there are several examples, though the trope might be getting forgotten or dying out as I don't recall any recent examples
  • I like to deserve it — solid concept, needs a better name and plenty, plenty of work
  • Western Wedding Dress — solid trope, solid description, needs examples.

I'm undecided:

Feel free to bomb:

     Bombed 

Bomb away: ETA: These were already discarded.

Edited by XFllo on Mar 14th 2019 at 1:20:10 PM

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Mar 14th 2019 at 11:30:35 AM

I think Glance of Clarification is covered by Meaningful Look (and that trope applies to a lot of situations) - The Same, but More Specific. Meaningful Look is an expression someone gives to another in place of dialogue, and G of C conveys "Did they really say/do that dumb thing?"

Spaceships are for the Weak!: Bad title for sure, also tropeworthy for sure. There must be a "this setting has some piece of fancy technology, but a character has powers that makes the fancy technology unnecessary" supertrope, but I can't think of it.

Billboard Graffiti: Vandalism of public, large, visible advertisements? That makes it distinct from Mustache Vandalism. And doesn't require a portrait. I'll leave it alone for now.

The single-sentence description of Beware the Self-Righteous Ones goes "This is for the idea that those who are more self-righteous are more likely to be guilty of that which they are judgmental towards." That's not enough description for a concept, and I'm inclined to say that all the "related" comments below are actually tropes that cover this already.

Animal Years has an awful description, but the comments show the trope has promise.

Edited by Tabs on Mar 14th 2019 at 12:04:02 PM

WaterBlap Blapper of Water Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
Mar 14th 2019 at 2:36:38 PM

Honestly, I think that if there's no description, it ought to be bombed. If anyone wants to make a new draft based on the comments, that's fine, but if the draft itself is unsalvageable (not interesting or tropeworthy, or it doesn't have a basic description), then I don't think we should leave it alone, but rather we ought to bomb / nuke it.

[witty saying]
XFllo Witch from Not Prague Relationship Status: Love potion #9
Witch
Mar 14th 2019 at 3:06:48 PM

[up] I disagree. How long will we wait for the very same idea? If it's salvable, we should keep it. It doesn't hurt anything. These half-cooked ideas are frustrating, I know...

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Mar 14th 2019 at 3:08:40 PM

[up][up] I disagree as well. That's what we have the mothballed folder for. I'll see what I can do about advertising the mothballs to different projects.

Speaking of which, I reviewed page one of this thread and added some stuff to the mothballed folder and discarded without reason folder.

Edited by Miss_Desperado on Mar 14th 2019 at 3:24:23 AM

Mar 14th 2019 at 3:25:19 PM

I'm itching to discard it, too, but the "animals using their different lifespans as justification for something" really could be something.

I haven't proposed more drafts lately, but I've been compiling a list since the page 7 mega post. There are more than a hundred now. When can I commence dumping?

[up] HmmMMMmMM? I don't see any drafts in there that were discarded without reason...

Edited by Tabs on Mar 14th 2019 at 3:28:00 AM

Mar 14th 2019 at 3:32:48 PM

    Nuked 

    Decided / Mothballed / Whatever 


Having closed the previous "Almost Nukable" List, starting this new one:


Four Bombs:


    Three Bombs (Folderizing since it has over 20 entries.) 


Working on page 146.

Actually, gonna stop around here, since they're close to only being two years since last comment / edit.

Edited by Malady on Mar 20th 2019 at 5:19:15 AM

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Mar 14th 2019 at 3:37:56 PM

[up][up]Egads, give us time to recover from your last mega report posts!

And as for the "discarded without reason" drafts, there are reasons listed in the thread but those reasons weren't put on the drafts themselves when they were nuked. Hence why they're in the folder.

Edited by Miss_Desperado on Mar 14th 2019 at 3:40:39 AM

Mar 14th 2019 at 3:39:00 PM

It seems like drafts with 3 or more bombs are actually decreasing, once you get closer to present...

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Mar 14th 2019 at 3:53:54 PM

[up][up] HmmMMMmMMmMmmm? Each discarded draft has a reason posted by one of us in this project. Three of them certainly weren't posted after you mentioned they were added to the folder.

[up] Higher standards, more willingness to bomb poorly formatted or stub drafts.

Edited by Tabs on Mar 14th 2019 at 4:01:41 AM

Mar 14th 2019 at 3:55:34 PM

Bombed all of X Filo's "Bomb's away" drafts.

Mar 14th 2019 at 4:01:12 PM

OK OK, how 'bout I just post 1/4 of them. That's only 30 drafts...

WaterBlap Blapper of Water Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
Mar 14th 2019 at 4:05:15 PM

(My comment above came from seeing something like Sillouette Inside a Title Letter being "definitely tropeable" despite it not having a description and the OP saying they themselves don't think it's a trope. Also we already have Character in the Logo, which may be flexible enough to cover the concept already.)

If it's salvable, we should keep it.
I feel like I've been misunderstood. If it's salvageable, then it is not unsalvageable. I did say "if the draft itself is unsalvageable..., then I don't think we should leave it alone, but rather we ought to bomb / nuke it."

If there is no description, then there is no trope. That is what I'm talking about. There are plenty of hollow drafts where there's just the title and then people in the comments fill the void and put meaning on the meaningless, and that draft stays around despite not being anything. "Fixing" such a draft is just the same as creating one from scratch, and so it makes more sense to discard it to start afresh than leaving it there. Archiving the idea on this project's wiki page (for someone to come in and make a new draft) might be better so as to clear up the TLP.

That's what we have the mothballed folder for.
The tabled items have something salvageable. They have small descriptions, sure, but those are workable. They're also not really what I'm referring to...


Also, Tabs, lists of 12 or so would probably be the most efficient. That's pretty much the max number of items for, say, the Real Life section clean-up crowner.

Edited by WaterBlap on Mar 14th 2019 at 4:09:49 AM

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Brainulator9 Regular garden-variety human from A nova - it doesn't go Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Regular garden-variety human
Mar 14th 2019 at 4:31:37 PM

Used some more nukes.

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WaterBlap Blapper of Water Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
Mar 14th 2019 at 4:41:32 PM

[witty saying]
Mar 14th 2019 at 4:42:34 PM

Drafts away (10 of them). Most should be easy discards.

Color Coded Asian Hair: Merely talking about appearance is chairs. Skunk Stripe has the stripe part.

Continuity Snowball: Continuity Cavalcade.

Self Demonstrating: Frieza: Freeza.

Idiot Programming Index: Idiot Programming Index.

Mask vs. Tom Cruise: Marquee Alter Ego.

Round the World Chaos: Nations of the World Montage.

Rule/Law of Plot Conservation: Padding and Pacing Problems with added complaining.

Sandbox Mode: Sandbox Mode.

Stuck At The Airport Plot: "Stuck at the Airport" Plot. Draft was made in error.

Violet Token Streak: Skunk Stripe. What media was released that prompted two different users within two months to propose the same thing?

Edited by Tabs on Mar 14th 2019 at 4:46:56 AM

XFllo Witch from Not Prague Relationship Status: Love potion #9
Witch
Mar 14th 2019 at 5:09:58 PM

I agree wholeheartedly that we should each keep the list small. 10 drafts for a post, with justification for keeping/bombing? Sorry, I now see that my own list is too big for others to handle. Big dumps of drafts, tropes and walls of text are hard to manage.

  • Be trans not gay — please don't bomb this, this is actually very interesting and I haven't seen it around.

  • Character in the Logo — I agree that is probably covers the silhouette draft. I haven't known this trope.

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Crossover-Enthusiast Cinnabunny from the endless void of Hiatus Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Cinnabunny
Mar 14th 2019 at 5:29:06 PM

SelfDemonstrating.Frieza could just be made into a redirect for the the actual page.

Very much hoping CoroCoro has some sweet new Pokémon content this month
XFllo Witch from Not Prague Relationship Status: Love potion #9
Witch
Mar 14th 2019 at 5:31:31 PM

There are plenty of hollow drafts where there's just the title and then people in the comments fill the void and put meaning on the meaningless, and that draft stays around despite not being anything. "Fixing" such a draft is just the same as creating one from scratch, and so it makes more sense to discard it to start afresh than leaving it there. Archiving the idea on this project's wiki page (for someone to come in and make a new draft) might be better so as to clear up the TLP.

I think keeping a decent idea, even with bad or no description, in TLP is not that bad. I myself adopted such drafts in the past, added examples or wrote description based on the comments and got such abandoned tropes to the launch. Its's very hard and I prefer my own drafts, but I think there must be more tropers who like digging up and taking care of such drafts.

If we keep track of discarded ideas on a sandbox or here in the project thread, I might be inclined to agree with deleting them and starting over, but I think I'd have to see the sandbox or a sample of the post for preserving such ideas first. And in that case I'd prefer to have this project in the Long-Term Projects anyway.

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WarJay77 Shocking, ain't it? from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Shocking, ain't it?
Mar 14th 2019 at 6:13:06 PM

Why does everything happen when I'm working?

Give me some time to get my nukes ready.

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WarJay77 Shocking, ain't it? from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Shocking, ain't it?
Mar 14th 2019 at 6:46:05 PM

Eh, we were going to discard anyway, not a big deal, just leave a reason why.

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XFllo Witch from Not Prague Relationship Status: Love potion #9
Witch
Mar 14th 2019 at 6:50:11 PM

[up] Um, I specifically asked to leave it be for the time-being in the comment because I find the concept interesting, I don't think it's covered by other existing tropes (though I haven't looked too deeply, I admit) and the two examples from media are ok and the two real life ones really interesting.

I also made it clear in the comments that I'm willing to discard it if the discussion really leads nowhere. No need to discard it right away, even if people bomb it like crazy — again, without providing reasons.

I restored it. And no, I'm not gonna hat it to balance hats and bombs because it really is not in launch-able state. :-)

Edited by XFllo on Mar 14th 2019 at 2:56:11 PM

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