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Per Ask The Tropers, this thread will be used to reduce the number of old, poorly written drafts on the Trope Launch Pad. We don't want to discuss on the drafts themselves because that will bump them and mix them with active proposals.

Sandbox for the project: Trope Launch Pad Discard Project
Sandbox for discarded drafts but viable ideas: Trope Idea Salvage Yard

The first sandbox page above contains drafts proposed in the thread that are still pending and drafts that we've decided to leave alone, either with no action or a bump.
The second sandbox page is for awful drafts but viable ideas. According to moderators, badly written but interesting/tropeworthy drafts should remain on the TLP. Rather than allow low-effort drafts to clog TLP, though, the salvage yard was opened to keep just the ideas behind them, in one place.

On this thread, we will mention which drafts we think are unworkable, add enough bombs, and discard (nuke) them. Discarding requires at least 5 bombs. Among the features of "unworkable" drafts:

  • There have been no edits for a very long time, or at all
  • The draft is low-effort, containing atrocious spelling and grammar and/or little to no examples, e.g. NEVER saw THAT coming (!), Nut-Chuks
  • The draft was seemingly created so the sponsor could complain
  • The topic is People Sit on Chairs, Too Rare to Trope, a search query created by mistake, etc. and therefore not tropeworthy
  • The topic is already sufficiently covered by one or more tropes or is a duplicate of a better-written TLP draft
  • The draft is problematic in other ways, such being closely tied to a page that has been historically problematic, e.g. Fetish Fuel, Complete Monster
  • There's no discussion currently occurring in the comments to improve the proposal

If we decide to discard a draft after discussion via this thread, whoever does so must provide the discard reason in the comment section of the draft, for transparency's sake. Those looking at the discards section won't think it was nuked for no reason.

Also, check out the sister project, Trope Adoption Drive, where good drafts put Up for Grabs or abandoned can be grabbed, given a bit more improvement, and launched.

Edited by Tabs on Mar 24th 2022 at 12:02:43 PM

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Mar 5th 2019 at 8:24:06 PM

Per Ask The Tropers, this thread will be used to reduce the number of old, poorly written drafts on the Trope Launch Pad. We don't want to discuss on the drafts themselves because that will bump them and mix them with active proposals.

Sandbox for the project: Trope Launch Pad Discard Project
Sandbox for discarded drafts but viable ideas: Trope Idea Salvage Yard

The first sandbox page above contains drafts proposed in the thread that are still pending and drafts that we've decided to leave alone, either with no action or a bump.
The second sandbox page is for awful drafts but viable ideas. According to moderators, badly written but interesting/tropeworthy drafts should remain on the TLP. Rather than allow low-effort drafts to clog TLP, though, the salvage yard was opened to keep just the ideas behind them, in one place.

On this thread, we will mention which drafts we think are unworkable, add enough bombs, and discard (nuke) them. Discarding requires at least 5 bombs. Among the features of "unworkable" drafts:

  • There have been no edits for a very long time, or at all
  • The draft is low-effort, containing atrocious spelling and grammar and/or little to no examples, e.g. NEVER saw THAT coming (!), Nut-Chuks
  • The draft was seemingly created so the sponsor could complain
  • The topic is People Sit on Chairs, Too Rare to Trope, a search query created by mistake, etc. and therefore not tropeworthy
  • The topic is already sufficiently covered by one or more tropes or is a duplicate of a better-written TLP draft
  • The draft is problematic in other ways, such being closely tied to a page that has been historically problematic, e.g. Fetish Fuel, Complete Monster
  • There's no discussion currently occurring in the comments to improve the proposal

If we decide to discard a draft after discussion via this thread, whoever does so must provide the discard reason in the comment section of the draft, for transparency's sake. Those looking at the discards section won't think it was nuked for no reason.

Also, check out the sister project, Trope Adoption Drive, where good drafts put Up for Grabs or abandoned can be grabbed, given a bit more improvement, and launched.

Edited by Tabs on Mar 24th 2022 at 12:02:43 PM

WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#2: Mar 5th 2019 at 8:24:43 PM

Sweet. I'll start digging.

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#3: Mar 5th 2019 at 8:28:53 PM

To get the ball rolling:

Any hope for any of these?

Edited by Tabs on Mar 6th 2019 at 11:44:14 AM

WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#4: Mar 5th 2019 at 8:30:55 PM

Don't know about two of them, but I'm tossing a bomb on the middle one, since it's...not good. And has hats regardless, which is my biggest Pet Peeve regarding TLP drafts.

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#5: Mar 5th 2019 at 9:14:33 PM

The first might be Humans Are Average, or some Muggle trope, or just plain Muggle focusing on how they're not plot relevant except as a Other to be shielded.

Not sure if Humans Are Average is Sci-Fi only, and needs aliens.


Discard the second. If someone wants to make a work page, they gotta put in the work?


Last is a round-about way of saying that Editorial Synaesthesia or something is the only way to convey smell and taste.

Edited by Malady on Mar 10th 2019 at 3:39:10 AM

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WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#6: Mar 5th 2019 at 10:00:06 PM

Here's one I just bombed. No hats, no examples, no nothing except one troper pointing out the concept is covered.

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mahidevrans Theon is home. Since: Mar, 2018
Theon is home.
#7: Mar 5th 2019 at 10:19:38 PM

I bombed a handful yesterday before this thread opened that were poorly developed, repeats, or had a lot of downvotes — they are probably still on the list of recent discards.

Some of them have a hat:bomb ratio approaching 1:1 that also have a high number of hats and bombs. Not sure what do to with those, especially if they haven't been claimed by anyone of late.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#8: Mar 5th 2019 at 11:05:44 PM

Car Chase Truck Crunch: Good concept. Only has one example that's a subversion and one actual example in the comments. Definitely needs a better name.

Back To Basics: Pretty alright, aside from the draft needing to be caught up with the comments and the various work pages potholed in main.

Doesn't Understand Sex: Description could use a trim. Each folder only has one example barring literature, though there are a lot examples in the comments. The troper who grabbed it hasn't edited it since June of last year.

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#9: Mar 5th 2019 at 11:44:41 PM

I'm not sure what to do about those near 1:1s, either. If the commenters came to a consensus it might be better to just write a new draft to reset the bomb/hat count.

Those three tropes have potential. I don't have any examples to contribute, but they may be worth TLP-bumping. Let's focus on those that can be safely discarded. For those bare-bones, minimal effort proposals, I'd rather discard them to remove some of the TLP bloat.

WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#10: Mar 5th 2019 at 11:46:38 PM

Yeah, any drafts that have potential should be bumped (with a contributing post, not just "bump") instead of taken here.

Dunno about the 1:1 ones either. I've known about them for a while, but I'm skittish about tossing anything that has hats as well as bombs and had actual discussion going on.

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Brainulator9 Short-Term Projects herald from US Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Short-Term Projects herald
#11: Mar 6th 2019 at 5:04:32 AM

Discarded "unintentional translation funny".

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DracMonster Since: Jan, 2001
#12: Mar 6th 2019 at 6:11:12 AM

^^ If the bumper doesn't intend to take it over, they should probably put [UP FOR GRABS] in the title to encourage someone to shepherd it.

Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#13: Mar 6th 2019 at 8:53:47 AM

Phantom of Heroes Year One has my bomb. That makes six bombs. Should I press the discard button now?

If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.
XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
Brainulator9 Short-Term Projects herald from US Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Short-Term Projects herald
#15: Mar 6th 2019 at 9:36:44 AM

[up]Nuked.

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#16: Mar 6th 2019 at 9:57:27 AM

Mixed Race Marriage: Majority of comments saying it's People Sit on Chairs among other problems, which I agree with. The last comment is a bump for bombs. Done.

Edited by Tabs on Mar 6th 2019 at 11:54:58 AM

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#17: Mar 6th 2019 at 9:59:04 AM

^^ - Should we have left a comment on why we nuked it?

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WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#19: Mar 6th 2019 at 10:26:54 AM

I'll handle the discard on Mixed Race Marriage.

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WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#20: Mar 6th 2019 at 10:50:28 AM

Nefarious, yet indistinct, plans: Has 2 bombs, no hats, and practically every comment is someone questioning whether or not this is already covered by another trope.

Hotel Selling Threat: One bomb, comments questioning why the restriction to hotels is necessary, no explanation on how it isn't covered by "Scooby-Doo" Hoax.

Crouching Stoic, Hidden Ham: No comments, only two examples, and yet two hats.

Reluctant Participant Becomes Victim: One hat, no examples, comment asking if it's covered.

This God is a Loser: 2 bombs, 1 hat, and now covered by Loser Deity.

Edited by WarJay77 on Mar 6th 2019 at 2:00:53 PM

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#21: Mar 6th 2019 at 10:57:36 AM

Agree that "Nefarious, yet indistinct, plans" is covered by other tropes. Added my bomb.

A few more:

No Really He's Okay: The last edit was in 2011, no distinction from Horrible Judge of Character and/or My Master, Right or Wrong.

Big collar equals badass: Low-effort proposal with no edits after creation. IMO, it's a pointless appearance trope.

life saving flight: Low-effort proposal with no edits after creation. Already covered by Die or Fly and Suicidal "Gotcha!".

Friends With Prey: Duplicate of Predator-Prey Friendship.

3-Page Book: Describes Pamphlet Shelf.

Everyone Is A Pervert: Can this be nuked already?

ComicStrip/AngusOg: Angus Og exists. What should be done about TLP drafts of works and other non-Main pages? Do they typically get nuked or left on TLP?

TroperWall: Same as above (and still puzzled over the page that was launched).

Please Do Not Feed The Monster: This is Feed It a Bomb exactly.

Sexual Ignorance: The last few comments ask if this is any different from Miss Conception. I swear there are multiple drafts in the TLP about this right now.

Edited by Tabs on Mar 6th 2019 at 11:45:36 AM

WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#22: Mar 6th 2019 at 11:01:23 AM

^ Nice finds.

I also edited my post, so please look at the ones I added.

Added bombs to No Really He's Okay, Sexual Ignorance, Big Collar Equals Badass, Life Saving Flight, Friends With Prey, 3-Page Book, Everyone Is A Pervert and Please Do Not Feed The Monster. Unsure about the non-trope pages linked.

Edited by WarJay77 on Mar 6th 2019 at 2:07:32 PM

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
DracMonster Since: Jan, 2001
#23: Mar 6th 2019 at 11:29:47 AM

I recommend the song "Geronimo" by Sheppard for this thread.

"Bombs away, bombs away..."

Anyway, I bombed all those into the stone age...

Edited by DracMonster on Mar 6th 2019 at 2:33:09 PM

WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#24: Mar 6th 2019 at 11:34:01 AM

[up] Nice.

Discarded "Everyone is a Pervert" and "Nefarious, yet indistinct plans" with discard reasonings left.

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#25: Mar 6th 2019 at 11:36:54 AM

Edited by Miss_Desperado on Mar 6th 2019 at 11:38:07 AM

If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.

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