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ShirowShirow More Dread from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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Mar 14th 2019 at 2:32:50 PM

[up] What, you don't want Captain America to take down Hydra by getting into a twitter debate with them? [lol]

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Mar 14th 2019 at 5:03:26 PM

Wasn't sure whether to post this in the MCU thread or this one since it has to do more with Endgame than Captain Marvel but decided to play it safe.

If Carol hasn't been keeping an extremely low profile out in space, someone as well traveled as Rocket has likely at least heard of her.

Likewise, since Rocket is a one-of-a-kind being and was involved in some high-profile incidents in recent years, it's fairly plausible that she would have heard of him.

So would find it highly amusing if, when they do meet, their reaction is a mutual "Holy shit, it's you."

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Mar 14th 2019 at 5:22:48 PM

I'd kind of love if Carol and Rocket had some Noodle Incident bad history. And then they start arguing about technobabble and cosmic weirdness, and nobody else in the room knows what they're talking a bout.

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Mar 14th 2019 at 5:32:34 PM

It would depend on what Danvers has been up to in the last 20ish years. The events of the movie might have made galactic news, since it did apparently end a major war. I could see Rocket saying something like "Wait a minute, are you the one who ended the Kree war? Is it true that you punched a spaceship to death? Wow, I that was just a legend".

On the other hand, I didn't get the impression that Danvers had done much high-profile heroics since then, so it's possible she's quite obscure aside from that one incident.

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Mar 14th 2019 at 7:13:40 PM

GOTG says the Kree have an Emperor rather than a Supreme Intelligence, right? Maybe she destroyed it sometime during the 20-year gap?

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Mar 14th 2019 at 8:27:20 PM

Given that she was with the Skrulls and the Skrulls were in hiding, it's very plausible that nobody outside of the Kree higher-ups would have heard of her.

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Mar 14th 2019 at 8:29:54 PM

[up][up] Could be a both situation. The Emperor is a figurehead who represents the Kree Empire in all foreign policy matters and may hold some political power, but at the end of the day works for the Supreme Intelligence.

It is also possible Carol destroyed the Supreme Intelligence offscreen.

Edited by Falrinn on Mar 14th 2019 at 11:30:03 AM

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ShirowShirow More Dread from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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Mar 14th 2019 at 9:14:48 PM

The Supreme Intelligence is a conglomeration of the minds of past emperors, so the current emperor will likely be folded into it eventually.

Wonder if that process is... Sanitary.

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Mar 14th 2019 at 9:19:22 PM

I know that obviously there's a bit of retconning involved from an out-of-universe perspective, since there wasn't plans for a Captain Marvel movie (or at least this Captain Marvel movie at the time), but GOTG presents the Kree as pretty much winking at Ronan's atrocities and giving them tacit approval (and I would suspect funding)- it's basically a science fiction take on a country that's a state sponsor of terrorism.

So, it's kind of depressing to think that this is about as good as was possible with Carol's efforts. Not faulting her, this probably is as good as could be hoped for with mostly non-violent methods.

With that in mind, I'd probably assume they always had an Emperor or Empress and that either they are a figurehead of the Supreme Intelligence or else Carol destroyed the Supreme Intelligence. And whatever she did, it at least stopped the Kree from actively trying to conquer the galaxy with large helpings of genocide. And it seems like there's at least some Kree that are affiliated with a Dovish political party, even though it appears to be Pragmatic Villainy at best.

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Mar 14th 2019 at 9:39:38 PM "The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
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Mar 14th 2019 at 10:25:21 PM

Depending on how many Ultrons are involved, more like OT3000...

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 14th 2019 at 10:25:35 AM

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Mar 14th 2019 at 10:39:29 PM

Remember that time in the comics where Ultron took over the Phalanx?

It would be fun to see him do the same to the Supreme Intelligence and take over the Kree Empire

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C105 Too old for this from France Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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Mar 15th 2019 at 1:42:46 AM

I wonder if Carol is subject to some kind of time dilatation when she travels at near-light speed (which she looked like to be doing at the end of the film). I know this is usually ignored in most sci-fi universes, but at least it would be a neat way to explain both how she did not seem to have aged in 25 years and why few people would have heard about her in the meantime: only a few months would have passed by for her while she was pushing the Skrulls ship to another galaxy and back (and yes, I also know time dilatation does not work that way unless she only travelled 25 light years away, but technobabble).

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Mar 15th 2019 at 2:07:10 AM

Frankly, I am not worried about that. I mean she absorbed time stone powers. Naturally she ages slower (or not at all).

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Mar 15th 2019 at 2:07:34 AM

Space Stone. Time Stone was still in Kamar-Taj at this point.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 15th 2019 at 2:07:57 AM

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C105 Too old for this from France Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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Mar 15th 2019 at 2:20:01 AM

I wonder if we will have more humans getting their powers from the infinity stones (we already have MCU Scarlet Witch and Captain Marvel from the mind and space stone respectively), assuming the stones are not destroyed during Endgame of course.

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Mar 15th 2019 at 2:28:13 AM

I've been wondering how they're going to explain Kamala, given that they're rather bent on not acknowledging the Inhumans these days.

That said, I'd prefer more characters with powers that didn't come from the Infinity Stones. While I get what they're trying to do with tying things into the myth arc, reinterpreting as much as possible as coming from the same source make universes smaller than they ought to be.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 15th 2019 at 2:28:29 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Mar 15th 2019 at 2:35:33 AM

Damn...I don't get why I recently keep confusing the tesseract for other stones.

You know, it would be kind of neat if every stone leaves its mark on someone until you have some sort of Infinity team up.

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Mar 15th 2019 at 2:35:34 AM

I'd rather they moved on from the Infinity Stones for the next Phase. They made sense here, but I'm rather tired of them now.

I've been wondering how they're going to explain Kamala, given that they're rather bent on not acknowledging the Inhumans these days.
I really hope they keep her Inhuman and just reboot the Inhumans. But also I hope they refer to AOS, because that would be great. But also probably unlikely.

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Mar 15th 2019 at 2:39:00 AM

Iíll laugh if Kamala after coming long after the Fox property merger, they just decide to straight up make her a Mutant.

Not saying she should be, but that it has a chance of happening.

C105 Too old for this from France Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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Mar 15th 2019 at 3:07:42 AM

The Inhumans as they were presented in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. would be the perfect way to have Kamala gain her powers in the same way as the comic, but I sadly doubt the series will get any acknowledgement from the movies at this point, so it is likely they will find another origin story for her if they add her to the MCU.

Mind you, the MCU is beginning to have a good range of powers origins, even without adding the mutants: we have the super soldier serum, the infinity stones, the Pym particules, Vibranium, being an alien, advanced technology (though I think remembering reading somewhere that the Ark reactor was derived from Howard Stark's study of the Tesseract) and, uh, Spiderman (I don't think we have any explanations on the origins of his powers).

The Infinity Stones could be a way to explain the Fantastic Four powers, if they ever end up in the MCU (I keep hoping to see some day an adaptation of this comic that does not suck). At least it would keep the trend of women imbued with powers from the stones becoming insanely powerful.

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Mar 15th 2019 at 3:09:58 AM

The Four's powers are the result of being bathed in cosmic radiation though.

C105 Too old for this from France Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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Mar 15th 2019 at 3:24:07 AM

Of course, but they could just as well be explained by standing too close from the Reality Stone (it would be closer to their origin story than Wanda's for instance).

[down]Had not thought of that, makes more sense actually.

Edited by C105 on Mar 15th 2019 at 11:48:48 AM

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Mar 15th 2019 at 3:41:36 AM

Personally I would use the Quantum Realm as the reason for their powers seeing how the realm properties have awoken Janetís mutant abilities and the setting is quite similar to the Negative Zone.

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Mar 15th 2019 at 3:51:23 AM

Now that the Kree have been introduced in a bigger role, they might be able or decide to introduce the story about the Kree experiments on earth through the backdoor. They could set this up in the Captain Marvel sequel.

Edited by Swanpride on Mar 15th 2019 at 3:51:45 AM


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