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RedHunter543 Nothing is absolute. Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Nothing is absolute.
Feb 20th 2020 at 7:59:09 AM

Or when there is a crazy plant lady with killer venus fly traps.

Blueace Blue Reflection Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Blue Reflection
Feb 20th 2020 at 7:59:35 AM

Or the flying pyromaniac.

slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Feb 20th 2020 at 8:01:06 AM

Or the man in the super suit who can turn you into a copsicle.

Can you see all of me? Walk into my mystery. Do you remember me? Capture you or set you free I am all. I am all... I am all of me
Ultimatum ◕ Disasturbator from England Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
RedHunter543 Nothing is absolute. Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Nothing is absolute.
Feb 20th 2020 at 8:03:33 AM

Or the giant clay monster who can impersonate anyone.

slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Feb 20th 2020 at 8:05:13 AM

[up][up] Okay the other guy. tongue

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 20th 2020 at 8:07:53 AM

Can you see all of me? Walk into my mystery. Do you remember me? Capture you or set you free I am all. I am all... I am all of me
Demongodofchaos2 Best Dad from Eldritch Nightmareland Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Best Dad
Feb 20th 2020 at 8:07:08 AM

...Captain Cold?

Watch Symphogear
slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Feb 20th 2020 at 8:10:19 AM

He actually does not have a super suit.

Just the cold gun.

Can you see all of me? Walk into my mystery. Do you remember me? Capture you or set you free I am all. I am all... I am all of me
Feb 20th 2020 at 8:54:04 AM

A way more powerful cold gun, to note. It’s just a good thing Central City baddies try (barely, sometimes) to have standards.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
RedHunter543 Nothing is absolute. Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Nothing is absolute.
Feb 20th 2020 at 9:06:07 AM

[up] Gotham rogues are apparently the ones the other villains don't like to hang out with.

At least the rogues are chill to hang for drinks with Flash after crime.

Feb 20th 2020 at 9:15:35 AM

Can we talk advertising?

How do you advertise a film like this and actually convince people it will be fun and a good time and not a lecture fest or just bad? I feel like the casual audience did see some things that were a complete turn off and I was wondering if we could all agree what they were.

Edited by Beatman1 on Feb 20th 2020 at 12:18:21 PM

"That's right kid. Never play an ace when a two will do."
slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Feb 20th 2020 at 9:19:18 AM

[up][up] Well Gotham does have the rep for being full of depraved manaics.

Even The Rogues aren't that looney.

Can you see all of me? Walk into my mystery. Do you remember me? Capture you or set you free I am all. I am all... I am all of me
Spottedleaf The Ice Queen from The J.L.A. Sanctuary Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Ice Queen
Feb 20th 2020 at 9:54:56 AM

[up][up] Honestly, the trailer that sold me on this movie was the one that began with Harley reporting a "terrible crime". That was what convinced me that this film would be fun. (Bruce the hyena was also a big factor in that.) But I do think that the R rating is hurting its box office performance- it's difficult for it to compete with the Sonic movie because the Sonic movie can attract a more varied audience in terms of age.

I also feel like you'd have to have a specific type of humor to see the trailer and agree that it looked fun. Personally, I have a fondness for black comedy within reason, so I found it quite amusing. But some people just aren't amused by that type of humor.

Edited by Spottedleaf on Feb 20th 2020 at 11:58:29 AM

"FREEZE!" "Poor choice of words."
Tuckerscreator from Traveling through the Multiverse Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Feb 20th 2020 at 10:01:19 AM

Both Deadpool and Ant-Man had very catchy advertising that built up curiosity about their otherwise unorthodox and obscure characters. Deadpool had those parody ads with just emojis or advertising it like a rom-com or crashing celebrity talk shows. Ant-Man had the ant-sized teaser and this:

TL, DR: weirder more catchy advertising.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Feb 20th 2020 at 10:02:01 AM

“If your good mood was ruined because you got into an accident with a car...”
Feb 20th 2020 at 10:07:04 AM

See, that's cause Marvel is smart knowing that when you do not have name recognition you need *something* else to hang your hat on to get people to notice your film to make them go..."wait...WHAT? Okay...might need to see that one..."

Got G had Blue Swede Antman had "Ant Sized" ads Deadpool had adds that made it look like a Rom Com

I've never seen anything of that style out of the WB's think tank they came CLOSE with Suicide Squad...and we know how that ended

slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Feb 20th 2020 at 10:08:49 AM

[up][up] Motherfucker that was what was missing.

No catchy-ass quirky advertisements & bizarre commercials where you wonder “What the fuck is going on?”.

I do not have any recollection of a commercial where Harley curses at kids on a public park or argues with another celebrity over the phone. No wonder the movies not doing well.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 20th 2020 at 10:10:15 AM

Can you see all of me? Walk into my mystery. Do you remember me? Capture you or set you free I am all. I am all... I am all of me
Feb 20th 2020 at 10:13:06 AM

[up][up]Even Jessica Jones used that to its advantage, the ads focusing on her being Queen Snarkikous (which in the show helped balance out rather heavy themes).

Meanwhile the Birds were selling...a SS sequel with an aesthetic that didn’t click.

Edited by Beatman1 on Feb 20th 2020 at 1:13:22 PM

"That's right kid. Never play an ace when a two will do."
Feb 20th 2020 at 11:03:12 AM

I question the $250 mil break even number. Bo P cost less than 100 million to make, and the advertising campaign does not lead me to believe they spent 150% of the film's budget on ads.

Personally, I believe that Birds of Prey may mark the end of the billion dollar blockbuster, at least for a while. Audiences have been getting burned out for a while, and 2020 might just be the year that it bottoms out.

Ultimatum ◕ Disasturbator from England Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
◕ Disasturbator
Feb 20th 2020 at 11:05:17 AM

> Personally, I believe that Birds of Prey may mark the end of the billion dollar blockbuster, at least for a while. Audiences have been getting burned out for a while, and 2020 might just be the year that it bottoms out.

As if!The billion dollar blockbuster is never going away,ever.

click not | no dont click this either seriously why would you
Feb 20th 2020 at 11:09:43 AM

There was the It 2 parody and references to Marylin Monroe

Ultimatum ◕ Disasturbator from England Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
◕ Disasturbator
Feb 20th 2020 at 11:11:06 AM

Harly needs to sing more

Edited by Ultimatum on Feb 20th 2020 at 11:52:46 AM

click not | no dont click this either seriously why would you
Feb 21st 2020 at 12:51:10 AM

I finally saw the movie and, well, I was underwhelmed. Biggest problem was precisely what I expected from the trailers, it's about 75% Harley Quinn and the "Birds of Prey" end up with the remaining 25%. I didn't feel like the movie trusted these characters with their own movie; Dinah was an overly passive character who fell backwards into the plot and there is little development of where she learned how to fight or the Canary Cry, Montoya had a decent Sherlock Scan but seemed to be an incompetent Cowboy Cop too busy trying to prove herself than actually building a decent case. All that is on top of a certain level of incompetence all around, the bad guys in the climax seem to have no strategy whatsoever and besides gearing up the girls don't develop any strategy in return other than fight back (there was very little Bash Brothers involved, the focus was more on the fun house setting). Huntress is basically an Advertised Extra and Mary Elizabeth Winstead felt like the only "Birds of Prey" character who came alive when on screen "I DO NOT have anger issues!" The overuse of Anachronic Order is what really crippled the narrative, there are too many characters to track and this did nothing as far as improving the pacing, not to mention some of Harley's eccentricities already made it chaotic.

I would actually put it about the same level as Suicide Squad, but I should note I did like Suicide Squad more than most. And in fact, the comparisons are apt as between the characters, use of Anachronic Order and the catchy graphics it almost feels like a sequel. It even has some of the same abrupt edits that don't make sense (the police knock on Harley's door and she gets a firebomb through the window, which makes the police entirely ignored a second later). The highlights is that Robbie is still pretty awesome as Harley, and the action sequences can be... literally... colorful. The police lock-up is definitely the highlight, followed by the roller skate chase at the end. McGregor serves pretty well as the villain, though I would note his voice often sounds like an impersonation of Mark Hamill's Joker.

CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
Author
Feb 21st 2020 at 3:05:32 PM

I'm kind of annoyed they took up as much of Harley's movie as they did, cool as they were. I came to see Harley.

Author of The Supervillainy Saga, Cthulhu Armageddon, The United States of Monsters, and Lucifer's Star.
slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Feb 21st 2020 at 3:07:50 PM

Hey it’s titled Birds of Prey not Harley Quinn....... well not until recently.

Though even Deadpool had a good supporting cast to bounce off of.

Can you see all of me? Walk into my mystery. Do you remember me? Capture you or set you free I am all. I am all... I am all of me
CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey

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