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32ndfreeze Since: Mar, 2012
#251: Feb 10th 2020 at 3:13:23 PM

[up]You probably shouldn't see it then.

It's very much a Harley and the Birds of Prey film.

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#252: Feb 10th 2020 at 3:26:13 PM

On the other hand, Harley's portrayal is a lot more entertaining and less Male Gaze-y than in Suicide Squad, which I hated, so I'd say give it a chance if you've got the time.

One day, we will read his name in the news and cheer.
Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#253: Feb 10th 2020 at 3:29:01 PM

The fact that this one is both directed and produced by women probably helps in that regard.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#254: Feb 10th 2020 at 3:31:44 PM

Okay I have not seen Suicide Squad since it first came out but what exactly is the difference between how Harley is portrayed here than over there in that regard?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#255: Feb 10th 2020 at 3:33:12 PM

I didn't even see any Birds of Prey videos and today I'm seeing a bunch of crybaby reviews about how Birds of Prey sucks, which I'm sorry, but no, it really doesn't.

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32ndfreeze Since: Mar, 2012
#256: Feb 10th 2020 at 3:35:28 PM

[up]I've seen so many comment chains around the internet that boil down to:

Post about why the film sucks

Comment 1: "I actually saw the movie and thought it was pretty enjoyable."

Comment 2: "No its garbage that shoves feminism down your throat so I won't see it."

Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#257: Feb 10th 2020 at 3:55:47 PM

Looks like Warner Brothers is changing the film's title to Harley Quinn: Birds of Prey.

Edited by Anddrix on Feb 10th 2020 at 12:58:21 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#258: Feb 10th 2020 at 3:56:46 PM

Really now of all times?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#259: Feb 10th 2020 at 4:04:21 PM

Saw it yesterday and I had a great time! It really does evoke Tarantino in its non-chronological storytelling and Deadpool in its Harley narration (though Deadpool didn't narrate about his supporting cast like Harley did).

Huntress is a dork and I love it. Give us Huntress X Question already.

The fights were BRUTAL but fun!

And Cass does seem in name only, but I like to think there's enough wiggle room for a future movie to say "hey, that pickpocket's birth parents bred her to be an assassin and tried to train her when she was a toddler."

And yeah, I'm hating how the Internet is saying the movie's bombing because apparently marketing team blundered for the umpteenth time.

Segue: apparently, theater listings are renaming the movie Harley Quinn: Birds of Prey to get people's attention more? I'm not sure if that always works...

[up][up] Damn it, I got Huntress'd...

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Feb 10th 2020 at 7:04:56 AM

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#260: Feb 10th 2020 at 4:09:17 PM

The name looked like a mouthful, but how wise would that be?

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#261: Feb 10th 2020 at 4:17:11 PM

[up] I mean, I always just called it Birds of Prey and ignored the "fantabulous emancipation" subtitle.

Another thing about the movie, I was pleasantly surprised at the animated opening by Warmer Bros. Animation. grin

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#262: Feb 10th 2020 at 4:17:33 PM

Okay I have not seen Suicide Squad since it first came out but what exactly is the difference between how Harley is portrayed here than over there in that regard?

She's less sexualized in her clothing and posing and somewhat… smarter? Albeit in a very goofy way. BOP also likes to remind us that she has a Phd in psychology.

And obviously, the fact she's no longer head-over-heels for the Joker impacts her character.

As for the title… well, everyone was calling the movie "Birds of Prey" anyway, so I'm not sure it makes a difference. The original subtitle fit the movies' story and tone better honestly.

[up] [nja]

Edited by Lyendith on Feb 10th 2020 at 1:18:28 PM

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#263: Feb 10th 2020 at 8:03:02 PM

Yeah, I actually never saw Suicide Squad (good decision on my part), but Harley is super fun in this one, and I really love her character.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#264: Feb 11th 2020 at 6:34:45 AM

I confess, I feel like I live in another world when people say the movie is less sexy, though.

What?

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#265: Feb 11th 2020 at 6:48:16 AM

It's because it's not exclusively catering to male fans.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#266: Feb 11th 2020 at 6:53:07 AM

Okay, so apparently this movie is performing bleh in the US, but if we're talking international numbers, it already made back its budget?

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#267: Feb 11th 2020 at 7:19:37 AM

If anything I think Harley's hotter here since there's less bad writing and gratuity to soil the whole thing and more actual good effort to advance her character into someone compelling, likeable, and independent from Mistah J.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#268: Feb 11th 2020 at 7:22:20 AM

A lot of the “less sexy” was the marketing, talking about feminism, avoiding the male gaze, etc, etc. Everyone read that as “purposefully unsexy”.

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#269: Feb 11th 2020 at 8:21:59 AM

I confess, I feel like I live in another world when people say the movie is less sexy, though.

What?

I did say "less sexualized", not "less sexy". There's a difference. Probably.

Regarding the Box Office, the budget was pretty low by comic movie standards and I don't feel like the marketing budget was that high either so it'll probably be fine.

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#270: Feb 11th 2020 at 8:27:22 AM

[up][up] Which ultimately proves alliterator's point that most, if not all, of the complaints regarding the film's supposed "un-sexiness" came from dudes upset about the film not specifically catering to their idea of sex appeal.

Edited by 1upmushroom on Feb 11th 2020 at 8:27:43 AM

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#271: Feb 11th 2020 at 8:49:52 AM

Harley’s signature outfit in this film is actually more revealing than her Suicide Squad one, it’s just not lingered on.

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#272: Feb 11th 2020 at 8:55:33 AM

I just want to see her in her red jest outfit at least once,is that too much ask?

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#273: Feb 11th 2020 at 9:20:03 AM

[up] You can see her in it in the opening animated segment.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#274: Feb 11th 2020 at 9:29:07 AM

Man Harley's modern design is such a downgrade.

Even her first New 52 outfit was more faitful cause it at least had more of the original colors.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
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#275: Feb 11th 2020 at 9:36:14 AM

I miss the cute, red jester look.

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