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Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#1: Feb 7th 2019 at 3:00:38 PM

Counter Arguments is a channel that discusses… well… arguments. More specifically, sloppily constructed or fallacious arguments usually made by a personality, or logical fallacies in general. Most of the time, the title of the video is the statement being discussed, such as "There is a war on Christmas", "Black people can't be racist", "Atheists have no morals" or "Punch a nazi"; a few videos discuss how not to respond to a given argument ("Why abolish death penalty?") or analyze political discourse in general ("Arguing over nothing" or "The truth about videos that begin with 'the truth about'"). As well as some with less political subjects ("Being a nice driver", "Water isn't wet").

The tone is civil and fairly light-hearted, with the occasional joke here and there, and the videos often give great food for thought on subjects without being preachy or too political.

It should be noted, however, that after the backlash on one of his recent, admittedly poorly done videos ("Protests need not be civil", which is no longer available), the guy did his mea culpa and admitted that around 2018 he had started to lose sight of his initial goal and discuss people more than arguments.

His apology was his recent 5-episode series on 12 Angry Men, where he analyzes how the characters in the film present their arguments and how that can apply to a real-world debate. It's quite fascinating.

And no, the channel has nothing to do with ContraPoints, although by nature it tengentially discusses politics in the general sense.

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#2: Apr 7th 2019 at 9:12:05 AM

Updating this to mention his two latest videos, both of which are reworks of older ones: "America is a Christian Nation" and "America is a Democracy".

A "Christian nation" is such a broad notion that it's hard to even tackle. Because I honestly don't even get what "Judeo-Christian values" are even supposed to be.

The second one could apply to a lot of countries outside of the US in a way, but one important question it asks is "is it really a democracy if the voters have no way to hold the elected representatives accountable during their term?"

Edited by Lyendith on Apr 7th 2019 at 6:15:21 PM

PhilosopherStones Anyways Here's Darude Sandstorm from The North (lots of planets have them) Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
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#3: Apr 7th 2019 at 1:31:07 PM

I used to watch this guy until his Dankula video. At that point I realised he really wasn't interested in making cogent arguments.

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Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#4: Apr 7th 2019 at 1:50:26 PM

You mean the "This Video is Grossly Offensive" one?

HottoKenai Since: Aug, 2016
#5: Apr 8th 2019 at 8:47:59 AM

Because I honestly don't even get what "Judeo-Christian values" are even supposed to be.

ContraPoints made a pretty comprehensive videos on that:

Point in question (at 07:50 minute mark):

In the late Middle Ages, the concept of Christendom appeared, and was used to distinguish the Christian world from the Islamic world and from paganism. This idea of Christendom is arguably the earliest precursor to the modern concept of the West. Notice that the term itself posits an us-versus-them dichotomy where Christians are the 'us' and Muslims are the 'them.'
The Christian inheritance is still invoked today by defenders of the West like Lil' Benny and Professor Studied-the-Blade, often under the heading of "Judeo-Christian Values", a term usually used to falsely imply that contemporary moral norms derived from such a generic, parochial, and incomplete document as the Ten Commandments, as if every major civilization didn't have laws against murder, as if the prohibition of graven images has any contemporary influence whatsoever, as if it isn't an embarrassment that there are four laws protecting snowflake Yahweh's easily-triggered ego, and none condemning slavery and rape. And what if I LIKE it when my neighbor covets my ass??
Bible jokes!
The other main use of "Judeo-Christian values" is as a bludgeon against single parents and the queers.

Ikiniks nor there from neither here Since: Jan, 2012
nor there
#6: Apr 14th 2019 at 12:49:41 AM

That seems... less "defining" and more reactionary. And very biased.

but maybe somewhere
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