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A thread for the Fast & Furious spin off starring Hobbs and Shaw.
Official trailer drops.
Remember when this franchise was about illegal street racing?
Edited by windleopard on Feb 1st 2019 at 9:22:01 AM
No, I don't.
This franchise has been about cops and robbers since the very first installment, when Officer O'Connell went undercover to take down Dom's high-speed heists. Illegal street racing has always been part of the aesthetic, not a core facet of the plot. The movies have illegal street racing in them, but they aren't about illegal street racing and never were.
Except Tokyo Drift, but nobody liked that movie.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Feb 1st 2019 at 10:29:28 AM
Be that as it may, this time around we have what appears to be a genetically engineered super-soldier as the main villain. That's....pretty wild, even for this franchise.
hey there's only so many times they can reuse the car chase plots
Speaking of Tokyo Drift, I'm sure that Sean, Neela and Twinkie would just be thrilled to know the guy that killed Han is still breathing.
I've been kicking around a Transformers/F&F crossover in my head for a while now. I even considered making Epps Rome's twin brother that he doesn't talk about due to his criminal record.
Edited by windleopard on Feb 1st 2019 at 9:34:45 AM
I'm weirdly cool with it. They've been throwing cars out of planes, fighting tanks with cars, fighting drones with cars, jumping cars out of skyscrapers, bulldozing buildings with a vault chained to cars, etc. for a while now. My Suspension of Disbelief is already at the "LOL, Whatever" level for this franchise.
I'm still waiting for Dom to ramp a car off the International Space Station. It will happen, so help me.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Feb 1st 2019 at 10:37:44 AM
Maybe in the cartoon. And yes that’s happening.
Alas, the writers have stated there will be no space travel.
Edited by windleopard on Feb 1st 2019 at 10:01:51 AM
Given what Hobbs showed last movie, makes you wonder if they didn't use him as the basis for superhuman experiments.
An army with the strength and charisma of The Rock...bah Gawd King.
So this movie will reveal that Hobbs does have super powers and was experimented on?
Edited by windleopard on Feb 1st 2019 at 10:50:19 AM
I'm so on board with this. I love these movies for how dumb they are, and yeah, this spin off is perfect to my tastes
I think I said "Oh my God" about five times watching this trailer, more amused than awed.
This looks so unbelievably ridiculous and I am so gonna watch the hell out of it.
I love all of these movies and can't wait for this one
"So you guys are being hunted by an army of mercenaries lead by a genetically enhanced soldier"
Well, gee, when you put it like that it sounds so ridiculous.
Also, I'm still not convinced we won't find out Hobbs is enhanced himself.
Edited by windleopard on Apr 18th 2019 at 6:49:04 AM
I know there's a trope called Fan Wank. Just seeing this trailer makes me wish there was a trope called Script Wank. This really, really, really looks like Statham and Johnson pleasuring themselves with all the "best" lines, while Idris Elba is clearly a case of Money, Dear Boy.
Edited by Gort on Apr 20th 2019 at 8:29:16 PM
Okay seriously, like a comment said, that trailer reveals like, what, half of the entire plot?
Also, like I always said, if not before, at least by the time Furious 7 rolled out this franchise became a full-blown superhero movie.
And my God, I am gonna watch the crap out of this one!
never forget the time they used a Tank
Hence, "if not before."
The sheer ridiculousness of it all is most hilariously described in its Abridged Script.
But holy fuck, I loved that scene. I just love tanks.
At some point in the future Fast & Furious is going to become a fully animated film an replace all the sound effects with stock cartoon sounds
There is Wag the Director, especially when it comes to big names they are always fighting for the best lines. The Expendables was apparently designed entirely with the actors input, and they still had a lot of egos to contend with.
Edited by KJMackley on Apr 21st 2019 at 6:40:25 AM
Before too long, the MCU with its sorcery, Norse Gods and super-science is MORE grounded and realistic than F&F. And I love it!
The movie's got an A- in CinemaScore.
I'm not super big into Fast & Furious as a whole, but the guy who directed H&S also did Deadpool 2, which was fun, so I might give H&S a stab later.
The Fast and the Furious is a franchise that's been through several phases: a basic GTA movie, a series of spy movies, and lately, a bunch of stupid fun action movies with fun setpieces, all connected by hokey but endearing plots about the family.
I watched the movie last night and here are my thoughts after letting the movie stew in my head for a night. There are good and bad things I want to talk about this movie.
WARNING: Contains a LOT of spoilers.
Here are three bad parts, in my opinion.
First FUCKING Kevin Hart. I hated every single one of his appearance. Before his first appearance, the movie was very fast-paced: almost every few seconds, you'd have an either funny or awesome sequence or both. The movie never lingered on a non-emotional scene for long, which I thought was fitting for a Fast and Furious movie. THEN Kevin Hart had to appear out of nowhere and the movie came to a screeching halt and lost all the sense of momentum, as well as my enjoyment. After that, it took a bit longer to rebuild that pace for me. I hated his second appearance as well: just like his first appearance, it just dragged on.
And seriously, he as a former Delta Force turned air marshal? I'm not the only one to point this out but give me a fucking break here. Literally, every other actors and actress who play badass characters here have played badass characters in other action/sci-fi movies or superhero movies. And don't give me that "That's the joke/point" bullshit either because it's not a joke so funny that it was worth disrupting the movie. Good GOD, I just wanted to choke the crap out of the character.
Secondly, seriously? Weapons that need electronic key cards to activate?! That's so damn stupid and inefficient in so many ways. I'd have accepted bioreader like the pistol in Skyfall, but this is just too inconvenient for the bad guys and convenient for the heroes.
Lastly and the most importantly, Brixton was very underwhelming for a supposed super-soldier. Due to the Marvel Cinematic Universe's portrayal of Captain America, there are higher expectations for super-soldiers now. Brixton, though, feels only slightly stronger than muscular and combat-hardened characters of the Furiousverse. I think there should've been scenes like:
And so on.
I also feel that his mechanical eyes only giving him info on enemy's punch coordinates was a bit of a missed opportunity. Come on, this is a Fast and Furious movie! We should've seen the eyes giving him the fastest routes, the potential force of a vehicular collision, tires and other car parts' integrity, etc.
Now, this is strictly a personal gripe. Well, even more of a personal one than others. I never found him too threatening of an antagonist. Hobbs mentioned how he was like a goddamn Terminator, and well, I think that element should've been incorporated more. I think he should've appeared less and spoke even less.
I think for the first quarter of the movie, the audience should've seen only bits and parts of Brixton. Like, when he shows up to kill the MI 6 agents, we would only see his back and boots, and when he kill the last surviving agent, he could've done it by grabbing and crushing his throat and when Deckard entered his sister's previous, booby-trapped hiding place, that could've been the better place for his first full body shot appearance.
You know how Brixton has glowing eyes? Well, what if the audience first sees a pair of glowing orange eyes in the dark, placed a bit lower than Deckard...then Brixton stands up and the glowing eyes now tower over Deckard and looking down on him. Deckard tries to punch and hit the super-soldier with everything he has, but it just doesn't work, forcing the latter to activate the booby traps in the house against him, just to escape.
Personally, I think it would've been better if Brixton kept silent for most of the movies, giving most of his lines to the Director, acting as his mouthpiece. I think that could've have conveyed the message of Eteon turning its employees and agents into a machine. For bonus points, I'd have made that Brixton used to be a talkative and cheerful agent before turning into a super-soldier at Eteon's hands. Shaw would lament at what his comrade turned into and maybe when Brixton died, he would show his human side one last time.
HOLY BALLS I LOVED THE CRAP OUT OF THIS MOVIE!
Where do I even begin with all the things I loved about this movie?
All in all, not without its flaws, but it's an amazing mindless, pop-corn movie. It is a must for any Fast and Furious fans and I hope this spin-off title gets a sequel.
I'd give this movie three stars out of four. Definitely recommended.
Edited by dRoy on Aug 17th 2019 at 10:38:34 PM
It sounds like the whole supersoldier thing is just hard to really buy considering a normal guy was able to cave in a (cracked, admittedly) parking garage by stomping really hard.
... the baseline for humans in this universe is pretty damn high.
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