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#651: Feb 24th 2024 at 6:36:52 PM

I had a few qualms with the 2016 movie but overall I thought it was pretty good.

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#652: Feb 24th 2024 at 6:51:05 PM

Yeah. While there was some legitimate issues with it, I also think a lot of it was anti woke shit.

Unfortunately, those legitimate issues and the made up stuff all got mixed together and probably lead to a lot of shit between fans, haters, and assholes who just wanted to stir shit up.

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#653: Feb 24th 2024 at 7:06:48 PM

You guys can't tell me with a straight face that Rowan is less memorable than Vigo the freaking Carpathian. Even Gozer has maybe five minutes of screentime across two movies. S/he's memorable because the original Ghostbusters itself is such an unimpeachable classic, not because s/he's an especially good villain.

I agree that GB2016 is the worst movie in the franchise by a pretty big margin, but it goes the farthest to flesh out its villain, especially in the special extended edition.

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#654: Feb 24th 2024 at 7:35:17 PM

Fleshed out and memorable are two separate things. Rowan is more fleshed out, and has more screen time. He is not memorable.

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#655: Feb 24th 2024 at 11:41:43 PM

My main memory of seeing Ghostbusters 2016 in the theater was how much of the audience laughs were aimed at Kate McKinnon and the other cast members got silence.

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#656: Feb 24th 2024 at 11:48:00 PM

I mean I remember a lot of the other characters getting laughs at my screening including Chris Hemsworth as both Kevin and Rowan possessing Kevin.

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#657: Feb 25th 2024 at 3:05:36 AM

I vividly remember the police dance-off any time I think of 2016.

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#658: Feb 25th 2024 at 3:19:10 AM

To me it's the entire scene w/ the ghost gargoyle sitting on Leslie Jones' shoulders and everyone's reaction to it.

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#659: Feb 25th 2024 at 7:13:21 AM

I should also note that "memorability" is a difficult thing to gauge when you're talking about franchises with multiple entries over a long period of time.

This is a thing that comes up in superhero comics. A common complaint about modern villains is that they aren't "memorable". A new Spider-Man villain can easily be written off for being "unmemorable" because they just don't stand out like Green Goblin or Venom or Doctor Octopus.

But. Like. Those guys have been around for sixty years. Of course they're memorable. You've been reading comics with them in it ever since you were a baby.

I can't disagree with the claim that I remember and can recite off the top of my head far more details from the 1984 Ghostbusters film than the 2016 one.

But the 1984 Ghostbusters film has been around since 1984. It's older than me, and was a significant part of my media diet in my childhood. I've watched it probably 500 times over the course of my life. Why wouldn't I remember it better?

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#660: Feb 25th 2024 at 1:23:49 PM

I've never understood why they haven't just adapted Extreme Ghostbusters already. It was fairly good and overall well remembered with Kylie being so much of a Breakout Character she was a Canon Immigrant for the comics. Is it a legal issues matter or what?

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#661: Feb 25th 2024 at 1:25:15 PM

Probably not a legal rights issue, since Kylie shows up in the IDW comics.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Feb 25th 2024 at 1:25:27 AM

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#663: Feb 28th 2024 at 1:48:26 PM

Saw the latest Frozen Empire poster and it looks really cool (no pun intended). Emily's role is even still undisclosed, so it must be very important indeed. In case I didn't mention it already, I wrote a WMG section about it—and someone at one point added a good theory to it too.

The movie's rating is also not yet announced at this time, but I seriously doubt it's getting something besides PG-13.

With Answer the Call (the 2016 film), I was never on the hate train. It was trying to be a modern day Ghostbusters and there wasn't anything truly wrong with the way it tried to adapt itself. I can understand that the style of comedy is just not really what Ghostbusters fan were wanting or looking for—and I would agree that the tone didn't feel right for Ghostbusters either as well.

You look at the aesthetic; the atmosphere and the air of intrigue that Afterlife had and that was way more the speed and the essence of the world of Ghostbusters—and definitely was what people wanted to see and experience instead. Answer the Call being too updated in its approach through the comedy and not having enough of that dramatic weight wasn't really the right way to go for something with the Ghostbusters name on it and people saw through it—and I will agree that Rowan works as a villain in theory certainly and just needed better writing/acting to pull him off in such a way that it would've better resonated with audiences.

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#664: Feb 28th 2024 at 2:09:13 PM

[up]No they announced today it was PG-13.

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#665: Feb 28th 2024 at 2:53:57 PM

I quite liked Rowan. It’s the only time the films have ever really done the “anti-Ghostbuster” thing, and it was really cool. The comics did that a few times too, and it’s a really interesting concept.

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#666: Feb 28th 2024 at 3:36:58 PM

[up]Heh. So they did.

Answer the Call probably would've benefited from not having the Ghostbusters name on it. It would've just been a fun, silly supernatural PG-13 comedy that wouldn't have been held to that standard and judged as its own thing instead.

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#667: Feb 28th 2024 at 3:39:53 PM

If it didn't have the Ghostbusters name on it, they would have been sued for trademark infringement. It's. Pretty unambiguously a Ghostbusters movie. I don't know how you would make this movie and not call it Ghostbusters.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Feb 28th 2024 at 3:40:08 AM

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#668: Feb 28th 2024 at 3:47:05 PM

I hadn't seen Paul Feig's previous work before the '16 movie (excepting his TV stuff), but it was after seeing A Simple Favor that I caught on that he is all about putting actors in a room and see what happens. That can make for some good comedy but his visual style is pretty dry and you could feel that in the movie, causing a bigger "here's where the budget went to" shock than most blockbusters.

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#669: Feb 28th 2024 at 4:37:43 PM

Answer The Call is one of those films where the Re-Cut version is actually a bit better, and more preferable to watch than the theatrical cut. Although I still have some issues with it.

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#670: Feb 28th 2024 at 4:48:04 PM

There are ways they could've rebranded to distance themselves from Ghostbusters. That said, Sony probably thought this was more profitable though. Sony being out of touch in certain cases is obviously a running theme.

You look at Paul Feig's three movies before it that he also did with Melissa McCarthy—Bridesmaids (which I'm admittedly not a big fan of), The Heat and Spy—and those movies even if not all financially successful were still hits and got good word of mouth (the first of those in particular). I can understand that while that kind of humor did work on three different occasions and yet there are plenty who feels it's not the right fit with Ghostbusters. It felt like the next logical step to do that with the brand and yet at the same time, it ultimately wasn't the right match though.

I'm interested to see how all the characters get balanced out in the new movie and also really hoping there's a lot the trailers and ads are not showing us too. From what I'm hearing, I think we're in good hands.

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#671: Mar 11th 2024 at 7:07:08 PM

So according to this polygon article, they’re promoting the Ghostbusters movie with a video game tie-in… shockingly it’s Destiny 2, not Fortnite.

https://www.polygon.com/24097368/ghostbusters-destiny-cosmetics-frozen-empire

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#672: Mar 11th 2024 at 11:32:53 PM

Afterlife had an online game tie-in, so makes sense.

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#673: Mar 15th 2024 at 12:24:32 AM

Premiere last night, but reviews are embargoed until the 20th.

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#674: Mar 15th 2024 at 8:23:40 AM

You know, this thread kinda made me think.

Vigo the Carpathian is really a ridiculously non-memorable villain, while simultaneously an iconic one.

Because the memory of his painting is absolutely an icon and burned into my brain. But I legitimately cannot think of literally anything that he did. I have seen this movie more times over my life than I care to count. Like, I know he controlled the slime and the Eastern European guy but... yeah.

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#675: Mar 15th 2024 at 8:49:17 AM

I think it's that, unlike Gozer, his physical presence was not especially memorable. He steps out of the painting looking exactly like the painting. But the imagery and build up is pretty iconic.

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