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In order to properly evaluate a Hate Sink candidate, the following questions must be answered.

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What is the work?

State the work and which medium it is a part of, as well as what the work is about.

Who is the character, and what do they do?

State who the character is, and what courses of action they take.

What makes them personally despicable?

State the specific reasons they are despicable, such as petty behaviour and personal villainy.

Evil Is Cool traits? Complexity? Freudian Excuse?

State whether or not the character has any traits which get in the way of them being despicable, and if so, whether said traits are de-emphasised in favour of their despicable behaviour.

Verdict?

State whether or not you believe the criteria are met.

In order for this trope to be in effect, the character in question must actually display detestable qualities, and be hated by other characters at least, or treated by the narrative like someone you are supposed to hate. The authorís declared intent cements an example, but is not needed if the narrative itself treats the character as someone who is supposed to be hated.

Haman the Agagite, for instance, displays qualities of ego, bigotry, and pettiness; additionally, there is a custom of jeering at his nameís mere mention. It goes without saying, according to this thread, that Haman was intended to be despised by the audience. Being a Draco in Leather Pants, like Draco Malfoy, or a character people Love to Hate, like Joffrey Baratheon, doesnít preclude being a Hate Sink; being a Complete Monster, like Haman, certainly doesn't preclude this trope either.

The main concern is whether the narrative treats the character as someone intended to be despised.

With regards to this trope, actions still generally speak louder than words. The format of editing which brings up characters who don't fit the bill, doesn't generally go into enough detail with regards to what makes these characters loathsome.

The entries for this trope should focus on who does qualify, not the characters who do not.

Admittedly, this trope is less complex, but, because a Hate Sink carries out loathsome actions the same way a Complete Monster carries out evil actions, and a Magnificent Bastard carries out clever actions, it is ostensibly necessary to write these entries with a similar structure, albeit usually with a shorter paragraph.

Edited by gjjones on May 28th 2019 at 5:46:22 AM

SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from Nakatomi Plaza Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Draftsman of Doom
Aug 12th 2019 at 7:58:49 PM

[tup] Tsao.

"Tsao is an arrogant misogynistic cock who for all he bravado from being from a great line of warriors, cowardly chickens out when the going gets tuff for him and sets loose dragons and the undead as back up."

Heh Heh You Said "Cock".

Edit: never mind.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Aug 12th 2019 at 12:14:12 PM

Do I sound like I'm ordering a pizza?!
Klavice As if! from Pacific Canada Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
As if!
Aug 12th 2019 at 8:59:58 PM

Alright there, here I go!

What's the work?

Chrono Trigger is a 1994 JRPG made by Square-Enix (then Squaresoft) for the Super Nintendo with illustrations done for the game by Akira Toriyama of Dragon Ball fame. Toriyama put together some concept art for the game, and the sprites were made to fit Mr. Toriyama's designs. But enough about that. Let's talk about the game itself. It's naturally a classic and arguably up there with SE's best work along with Dragon Warrior/Quest and Final Fantasy. It stars the 17 (citation needed) year old young man Crono who bumps into the Princess of the Guardia Kingdom named Nadia, but goes by the alias of Marle. The two then travel through time through the usage of Crono's best friend Lucca's time machine and go to many places in order to stop the enigmatic Magus who it turns out was trying to stop the monster Lavos. This character is from the "present day" of 1000 AD.

Who is the unnamed fake Chancellor and what does he do that makes him so detestable?

The Chancellor (Actually Yakra) is the top enforcer of the king and adviser to him. He is the one responsible for Marle and her father King Guardia's rocky relationship due to his ill advise. After the group of Crono, Marle, and Lucca return from the past, Crono is forced by the king and especially the Chancellor to stand trial for attempted abduction of Marle (Princess Nadia). Despite it being possible to get a perfect "Not Guilty" verdict, the court order still stands and Crono is nearly executed by the Chancellor until Lucca helps him break out. When they are stopped, the Chancellor sics a dragon mech on them to try to kill them. When Crono and Lucca defeat the mech and explore Guardia's dungeons further, they meet a young man who was also about to be executed by order of the Chancellor, Crono saves him, and the group escape through a portal to the future. That is the end of the Chancellor... for now...

Later in the game, the Chancellor continues to wreck havoc on King Guardia and Marle's relationship by advising him that she ran away and thus has no right to be his daughter. Then, after history is rewritten for the King to have the Rainbow Shell, he decides to take Guardia Kingdom for himself, and rigs a trial so that King Guardia is found guilty, and thus executed and with Nadia/Marle out of the way, he can ascend to power. This is thwarted when Marle and time travelling friends find the Rainbow Shell and stop him. Then we find out that the Chancellor was a fake all along and he is killed as Yakra.

Evil Is Cool or Mitigating Qualities?

None. Absolutely none.

Verdict?

I would say keep.

Edited by Klavice on Aug 13th 2019 at 11:44:22 AM

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from Nakatomi Plaza Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
ElfenLiedFan90 Current Status: Taking a Break for 3 days or mor from Jakarta,Indonesia Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Current Status: Taking a Break for 3 days or mor
Aug 13th 2019 at 12:15:21 AM

Sure to all of the candidates I missed.

Anyways @Sky Cat Since you read Night Huntress and Max failed to qualify, you can give him a shot at this thread if you want.

"Aww, don't make that pouty face... It makes me want to torment you more..." Current story that I made.
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from Nakatomi Plaza Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Draftsman of Doom
Aug 13th 2019 at 5:00:47 AM

I'll get to him later. I have someone else I wish to get to first.

What is the work?

Detention is a 2011 Joseph Kahn horror-comedy film. More details will be found in the monster effortpost for this candidate.

As noted by the other effortpost, Riley Jones has to contend with the unwanted advances of Sander Sanderson, while having to deal with a killer in a Cinderhella mask attacking her. It turns out that Sander is behind the attacks...

Who is Sander Sanderson, and what has he done?

If you'll excuse me, I'm going to just see what his Monster entry says:

"Sander Sanderson is initially presented as a pervert who constantly makes unwanted advances towards Riley Jones, and a classmate of Ione Rose and Clapton Davis. Brutally murdering the popular Taylor Fisher, attempting to kill Riley, and later butchering the athlete Billy Nolan, Sander feigns friendliness with his classmates while planning to kill them. Outraged by Riley's constant rejection, Sander kills exchange student Gord and Principal Karl Verge, then travels back in time to 1992 in order to convince a young Verge to eliminate the town of Grizzly Lake in an explosion with his help. When Riley and Clapton foil Sander's plot, he attempts to detonate the bomb himself, only succeeding in killing himself. In the altered timeline, Sander attacks Clapton and Riley, decapitating his implied sex partner Alexis when she walks in on him attempting to kill Riley for rejecting him. Lecherous, entitled, and contemptuous, Sander is a galling example of a possessive creep."

What makes him personally despicable?

Sander's rap sheet includes:

  • Making unwanted advances towards Riley.

  • Attacking Riley because she rejected him.

  • Going back in time to blow up Grizzly lake, both because he hates his hometown, and because Riley rejected him.

  • Breaking Riley's leg, attacking her again, and insulting her because she won't put out.

  • Mocking Riley's initial frustrations at being unable to start a relationship with Clapton Davis.

Evil Is Cool traits? Freudian Excuse? Complexity?

It's a little hard to call Sander "cool", considering what a Psychopathic Manchild he is.

Sander may not be well liked, as a classmate mocking him because his father was on a sex site would indicate, but Sander is never indicated to care about his parents, nor does any possible mistreatment justify his actions.

Finally, one could hardly call murder motivated by hatred of one's hometown, as well as inability to handle rejection, "complex".

Verdict?

Easy Keeper.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Aug 13th 2019 at 8:55:16 AM

Do I sound like I'm ordering a pizza?!
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Credit to Trent Duncan
Aug 13th 2019 at 6:37:05 AM

[tup] Colonel Sanders.

Billy: Oh my God! Michael! I'm a huge fan! You're such a big influence on my- Michael: I'm sorry, your name is Loomis ?
GeorgieEnkoom Emperor Enkoom Evulz II from Somewhere.
Emperor Enkoom Evulz II
Aug 13th 2019 at 5:16:56 PM

Sure to the candidates I missed since my last post.

Here's my Code Lyoko/Naruto fanfic.
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from Nakatomi Plaza Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Draftsman of Doom
Aug 14th 2019 at 9:26:21 AM

Detention: Sander Sanderson is introduced making unwanted advances towards Riley Jones, a process he repeats on a regular basis. Having murdered popular students Taylor Fisher and Billy Nolan, as well as Principal Karl Verge and Exchange Student Gord, Sander goes back in time, and, after being rejected by Riley one too many times, tries to convince a young Karl Verge to detonate Grizzly Lake with his assistance. When Riley and Clapton Davis interfere with his plan, Sander attempts to set off the bomb himself, only succeeding at killing himself. In the altered timeline, Sander attacks Riley and Clapton, breaks Riley's leg, then expresses his frustration with Riley's refusal to have sex with him, as well as his hatred for Grizzly Lake, killing fellow classmate Alexis when she walks in on him and Riley. Overall, Sander reveals himself as a petty douche who would murder a large number of people for immature reasons.

Spoilers off on the main Hate Sink page.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Aug 15th 2019 at 1:35:55 PM

Do I sound like I'm ordering a pizza?!
miraculous I am so tired of this gothic crap from South Africa
I am so tired of this gothic crap
Aug 14th 2019 at 10:31:53 AM

[tup]everybody since last post

Just once, I want to meet the villain in a cheerful, brightly lit room. Possibly one with kittens
Beast Credit to Trent Duncan from Ontario, Canada Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
Credit to Trent Duncan
Aug 16th 2019 at 1:47:03 PM

So here's a two for one deal with Dead Rising.

From the first game, you play as Frank West, a journalist who gets caught up in zombie outbreak in Willamette, and has to survive for 72 hours and uncover the truth behind the outbreak, all the while fighting psychopaths and zombies alike, and saving other survivors.

The first on the list is Brock Mason, the games Greater-Scope Villain and True Final Boss.

Who is Brock Mason ? What does he do ?

A contrast to the considerably more sympathetic Big Bad Carlito Keyes, Brock Mason is the villain who influenced Carlito's backstory. Mason is the military leader overseeing the occupation of Santa Cabeza, a Central American town where the American government and corporations did experiments to produce more meat from cows...which ends up taking a toll on the environment, while the soldiers impregnated the women of Santa Cabeza. When the governments research, resulted in a zombie outbreak, Brock had the zombies wiped out, and then proceed to lead a massacre to wipe out the civilians to cover everything up. This serves as Carlito Keyes Freudian Excuse, prompting him to take the orphans conceived by the soldiers and infect them with the same parasite that created the zombies and serve as timebombs to start outbreaks (the third game reveals Carlito didn't want to start something he couldn't stop, so he made one orphan with an immunity so that a cure could be made).

At the time of the game proper, during the zombie outbreak, Brock Mason returns to lead his soldiers to cover up the Willamette outbreak as well, by wiping out not only the zombies, but killing the survivors as well. After Carlito is killed and Overtime Mode is unlocked, Mason steps in to personally oversee the "mission". Eventually Mason mans a tank to chase down Frank West, and Carlito's sister Isabella. After the tank corners them on a construction site, Frank confronts Mason about his involvement in the Santa Cabeza coverup and how innocent people suffered and died because of it, which Mason dismisses before he and Frank get into a fight while surrounded by zombies. Frank manages to overpower Mason, who falls into a horde of zombies which eat him alive.

Complexity or Evil Is Cool ?

He certainly has this menacing vibe to him, which could grant him "cool" points, but as a character, he is a total contrast to Carlito, who at least has sympathetic motivations for having lost his people to the American Governments carelessness and cruelty. Mason on the other hand is the typical cold hearted "Big Bad Government/Military Bad Guy". In fact he is pretty much the poster boy of what Carlito and Isabella talk about regarding American Governments carelessness and cruelty. When Frank calls him out, Mason scoffs while expressing a misanthropic worldview, making it clear he feels no remorse. In his short screen time, all he cares about is covering up what happened in Santa Cabeza, even if it means killing American civilians, and getting his own soldiers killed.

Billy: Oh my God! Michael! I'm a huge fan! You're such a big influence on my- Michael: I'm sorry, your name is Loomis ?
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from Nakatomi Plaza Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Draftsman of Doom
Aug 16th 2019 at 3:42:02 PM

[tup] Mason. I'm in the states from Sunday to Wednesday for a wedding, so I won't be posting much for the next several days.

Do I sound like I'm ordering a pizza?!
Klavice As if! from Pacific Canada Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
As if!
Aug 16th 2019 at 4:10:29 PM

Also one thing to note: The real 1000 AD Chrono Trigger Chancellor is a bit character less important and was imprisoned by the fake (actually Yakra the 13th.) In a chest. Real chancellor is nicer though.

Think I'll do his writeup soon since Yakra the 13th has enough votes.

Edited by Klavice on Aug 16th 2019 at 4:13:10 AM

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Kylotrope The Good Doctor
The Good Doctor
Aug 17th 2019 at 2:09:49 PM

[tup] to Mason

Also, anyone familiar with the Hannibal lecter franchise Know if Mason Verger could count? From what I've read he's a sadistic pedophile who is meant to make Hannibal look like the lesser evil.

Edited by Kylotrope on Aug 17th 2019 at 2:11:27 AM

Cut them Down and Make them Holy, forgiven on this ground solely
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Credit to Trent Duncan
Aug 17th 2019 at 8:32:06 PM

Next up in Dead Rising is a minor but memorable antagonist in Jo Slade.

Now the thing with Dead Rising is that we get something called Psychopath fights, which serve as survivor bosses the player has to fight among the zombie outbreak. Many of them have some sort of comic quirk, or tragic backstory, or something from keeping us from fully hating on them.

This is not the case for Jo Slade from the first game.

Who is she ? What does she do ?

Jo Slade is a Dirty Cop caught up on the zombie outbreak of Willamette, and a Rare Female Example of a Serial Rapist in media. She takes advantage of the zombie outbreak to kidnap numerous women and rape them to death. By the time out hero Frank West confronts her, she is in the process of molesting one of her captives, berating her with misogynistic slang before Frank steps in and threatens the same to him for "disrespecting her authority". Frank mortally wounds Jo after a fight and she has a bit of a tantrum as she dies.

Complexity or Evil Is Cool ?

Nope, nope and nnnnope. Now many psychopath bosses in the Dead Rising series tend of have some comic or cartoony quirk, even a sympathetic reason for being what they are. Not Jo, she's a cop on an authority high and just an unpleasant woman in just about every way imaginable and a misogynistic, lustful serial rapist to boot.

Billy: Oh my God! Michael! I'm a huge fan! You're such a big influence on my- Michael: I'm sorry, your name is Loomis ?
IukaSylvie from Kyoto, Japan Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Klavice As if! from Pacific Canada Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
As if!
Aug 18th 2019 at 2:38:38 AM

Will do Lekain sometime this week and a debateable one before that. I say debateable because they are a Graceful Loser to Mario though that's more to do with them being really into fights. The character I am talking about is Grubba from Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door. Wouldn't be surprised if people voted keep but I could see an argument against his inclusion. But I believe I brought this up in the Complete Monster thread and Grubba failed the heinous standard compared to other villains from the Paper Mario series. And I believe when a few things were brought up like the fact he grew up poor, but it's more implied. He's not cool and any affable attitude he has is an act.

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from Nakatomi Plaza Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
GeorgieEnkoom Emperor Enkoom Evulz II from Somewhere.
Emperor Enkoom Evulz II
Aug 18th 2019 at 5:38:53 AM

Sure to Brock Mason and easy yes to Jo Slade.

Here's my Code Lyoko/Naruto fanfic.
ElfenLiedFan90 Current Status: Taking a Break for 3 days or mor from Jakarta,Indonesia Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Current Status: Taking a Break for 3 days or mor
Aug 18th 2019 at 8:45:49 AM

Sure to Mason and Slade

"Aww, don't make that pouty face... It makes me want to torment you more..." Current story that I made.
Beast Credit to Trent Duncan from Ontario, Canada Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
Credit to Trent Duncan
Aug 18th 2019 at 4:55:43 PM

  • Van Wilder: Richard Bagg is an arrogant med student caring only about his own dreams and status as President of student government, seeing that as license to talk down to and walk all over other students, even physically toying with his pledges. He is also Gwen's condescending boyfriend, who sees her as his "bitch" and when he sees Van and Gwen getting close, gets into a rivalry with Van. When Gwen, rejects his marriage proposal, he frames Van for serving alcohol to kids to get him arrested and expelled, and later cheats on Gwen. This serves to make the humiliation and revenge pranks he's subjected too a joy to watch.
  • Tricky People: Reginald Charming is a dark and serious villain, standing in jarring contrast to the colourful and zany protagonist in Yellow Dyno. A popular record producer and "upstanding citizen", Charming is a serial pedophile and child porn artist who uses his position of trust and charisma to lure kids in for photoshoots and picking out a girl he especially likes. One of his previous victims was Carmen, who photos Charming holds against her and threatens her with. He later tries to take "private photos" of Carmen's friend Lyric, and implicitly tries to force himself onto her before Yellow Dyno saves her. A surprisingly realistic and menacing depiction of a child predator, the emotional trauma he puts Carmen through is highlighted when she laments her lost innocence and her fear of telling anyone about Charming.
  • Jigsaw: Anna seems like an empathetic Final Girl figure throughout the movie, trying to help others caught in one of Jigsaw's games, but is soon to be revealed one of his most deserving victims. It's revealed she was neighbours with John Kramer, who witnessed how she smothered her baby to death because the crying annoyed her, and framed and gaslighted her husband into thinking he did it. This causes her husband to be institutionalized and commit suicide out of guilt. The reason Jigsaw picked her for his game was to force penance on her. What makes her worse is not only does she not feel remorse, but she believes she did nothing wrong as well and doesn't deserve what's happening to her. She also selfishly tries to kill the last survivor, thinking it'll ensure her survival.
  • Mexican Werewolf In Texas: Anna's parents Brad and Carol are real pieces of work. Part of the founding family of Furlough, they're more concerned about their status, and their disdain of Hispanics in their town, than they are about the chupacabra attacks in their town. Carol is constantly heckling Brad about their lack of wealth, despite them being well off all things considered; Brad takes advantage of the chupacabra attacks for his plan kill Anna's boyfriend Miguel, simply because he's Mexican-American. They two also half ass their empathy towards Brad's traumatized uncle when his son is killed by the chupacabra, with Carol making it a matter of inheritance. This makes Brad getting shot by Miguel (at Anna's encouragement no less) and being mauled by the chupacabra all the more amusing to watch.
  • Sly 3: Honor Among Thieves: In a series that contains many villains with amusing quirks, an awesome presence, sympathetic pasts and some even redeem themselves, these two are just unlikeable villains the player can't wait to defeat.
    • The main villain, Dr. M was a former member of Sly's father Connor's gang, whose selfishness and Lack of Empathy define his personality, who believes he is entitled to the riches of the Cooper vault, Sly's rightful inheritance, after Connor's death. Dr. M is introduced slowly killing a henchmen over a petty and minor failure, mockingly bringing up said henchmen's family and stating he'll never see them again. Dr. M injures and comes close to killing Sly; kills Carmelita's police squad for trying to stop him; and tries to turn Bentley against Sly. Despite all this, he has the audacity to call others selfish for trying to take what's "rightfully" his, and rationalize what he's doing as "self defense".
    • General Tsao is a Chinese warlord who takes an arrogant pride in coming from a family line of warriors. The Arc Villain of the levels set in China, Tsao has kidnapped Panda King's daughter Jing to forcibly marry her and merge their "great bloodlines". When Sly confronts him, Tsao states he prefers servants and obedience to love and friendship, and states that as a woman, Jing doesn't know up from down. Despite his pride in being a warrior, he chickens out when Sly gets the upper hand in a fight, and summons vampires and a dragon onto his village to avoid further interference. When Tsao is arrested, everyone is glad to see him go.
  • Dead Rising:
    • Brock Mason stands in contrast to the considerably more sympathetic Carlito Keyes, representing the callousness and cruelty the American government inflicted on his people. Mason is the special forces leader who saw the military occupation of Santa Cabeza, and when the governments experiments resulted in a zombie outbreak, Mason's "clean up" operation involved not only wiping out the zombies, but wholesale slaughter of civilians and survivors to cover up the incident. During the Willamette outbreak Keyes starts in retaliation, Mason leads an operation intending to wipe out the city as part of the cover up. When confronted by Frank West, Mason makes expresses his misanthropy, lack of remorse and is more annoyed that humans are more stubborn "prey" than zombies.
    • While most "Psychopath" bosses tend to have some comic quirk or sympathetic aspect to them, Jo Slade has none of these. An abrasive, obnoxious, self misogynistic and lustful cop on an authority trip, Slade uses her position and the zombie outbreak as an excuse to be a Serial Rapist, keeping numerous women captive with the intent on raping them to death, and is preparing to molest a woman when Frank confronts her. Despite only appearing once, she establishes herself as one of the most deplorable and nasty bosses in the series.

Billy: Oh my God! Michael! I'm a huge fan! You're such a big influence on my- Michael: I'm sorry, your name is Loomis ?
Aug 18th 2019 at 7:39:18 PM

What is the work?

The Ultimates, a reimagination of The Avengers in an Ultimate Universe. They are the basic template used for the MCU Avengers (but that happened years later, and it's beyond the point).

Who is the character, and what do they do?

Henry Pym, one of the original members of the Ultimates. He reverse-engineered the mutant power of his wife, the Wasp, who can change her size (in her case, from normal size to insect size), allowing him to grow to a giant stature. Note that, although the MCU Avengers are based on the Ultimates, MCU Henry Pym has zero similarities with this character.

What makes them personally despicable?

He had a discussion with his wife about their first superhero battle, where he was completely useless against Hulk. It soon escalated into an open Domestic Abuse against her. When she used her powers, he attacked her with a bug spray, and then used a recent invention of his to send loads of ants against her. He left her for dead, and run away from home. She survived, but had to be hospitalized.

Needless to say, for all the Ultimates This Is Unforgivable! He was removed from the team, and everyone takes turns to treat him like dirt. The Wasp hanged the phone on him when he tried to "apologize", Captain America reduced him to a pulp for what he did, Nick Fury refuses to accept any of his inventions (even if given for free), etc. All this while there is an alien invasion of the Chitauri to deal with. And he also betrayed the US to help an invasion by an anti-American superhero team... and then betrayed that team when they were losing, pretending that he was a reverse mole the whole time. Nobody buys it, and he gets jailed.

Evil Is Cool traits? Complexity? Freudian Excuse?

None really. Not even "The Ultimates were mean to him" counts as an excuse, as they were completely justified to be mean with him. The domestic abuse scene was brutal, closer in tone to domestic abuses that you would see in TV dramas rather than to the usual "superhero fights with superhero" light brawls.

Verdict?

I would say yes. He is already listed in the character page here, but not in the trope, and the description may need help anyway.

Edited by GrigorII on Aug 18th 2019 at 7:40:54 AM

Ultimate Secret Wars
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from Nakatomi Plaza Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Riley1sCool Kira Did Nothing Wrong from On the planet. In space. Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
Kira Did Nothing Wrong
Aug 18th 2019 at 9:42:12 PM

Ew. Fuck that treatment of the character, but sure to him.

"What a beautiful Duwang!"
Pemulis_128 A 20th Century Boy from Teleporting behind you Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
A 20th Century Boy
Aug 18th 2019 at 11:17:34 PM

Easy [tup] to Ultimate!Hank Pym.

Shadao Surprised Satoshi
Surprised Satoshi
Aug 18th 2019 at 11:20:58 PM

[tup] to Hank Pym, and I think it'll be best to note how he's different from the original Hank Pym. Now that I think about it, it might be veering into Ron the Death Eater territory.

In any case, I'll be checking on the drafts. If there are any last minute edits needed, please let me know.

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