The main concern of a Hate Sink is whether the narrative treats the character as someone intended to be despised.
The character in question must actually display detestable qualities, and be hated by other characters at least, or treated by the narrative like someone you are supposed to hate. The author's declared intent cements an example, but is not needed if the narrative itself treats the character as someone who is supposed to be hated.
A Hate Sink may have charismatic traits, a troubled past, or complexity, but in order for this trope to be in effect, such traits must be de-emphasized by the narrative in favour of their detestable traits.
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Edited by gjjones on Dec 3rd 2020 at 7:43:25 AM
Just in case you need it, this
is my effort post for Kai Chisaki/Overhaul from My Hero Academia.
TL;DR: Yes, he's the most personally despicable villain in the series especially because of what he has done to Eri. But it would be futile to discuss him without acknowledging his character depths and redeeming qualities, which set him apart from the likes of Akio Ohtori
from Revolutionary Girl Utena and Shou Tucker
from Fullmetal Alchemist. This is why I feel ambiguous about the author's intent.
Edited by IukaSylvie on Jul 3rd 2019 at 8:53:10 PM
Yeah, the narrative portrays Socks and Ruby in an Asshole Victim note, and this trope is not mutually exclusive for the most heinous baddies, if it were, very few villains would count as even many Complete Monsters have admirable or rather Evil Is Cool traits. This next one should hopefully be a more straightforward case.
Now for my second Warriors candidate, here's Tigerstar's unsympathetic lackey.
Who is Darkstripe? And what makes him detestable?
In the beginning he is Graystripe's older brother from another litter making him and Graystripe a Cain and Abel situation. Referred to as a jerk by most who know him and those who can tolerate him consider him a Dirty Coward at best, yeah he's an awful cat. He's also incredibly racist and a bully to Firestar. The problem? He's generally bad at being a villain but not in an Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain light as he did try to poison Sorrelkit but was stopped by his own half brother. His awful nature gets even worse at the Bonehill, a hill of cat and prey bones that Tigerstar gives orders from. Tigerstar orders the public execution of halfClan Stormpaw and Featherpaw which Darkstripe is happy to oblige, until Stonefur fights back and it takes Darkstripe and Blackstar (then Blackfoot) to bring him down and kill him. Did I mention Stonefur is also halfClan? Yeah... While Tigerstar and Blackstar get redeeming qualities in the form of liking Tigerstar's children or taking a level in kindness or Motive Decay Darkstripe does not. Darkstripe is a bigot through and through.
He even tried to kill Firestar by fighting on the side of Tigerstar's murderer (Scourge) saying nothing mattered as long as he saw The Hero dead.
After Graystripe kills him he gets banished to the Dark Forest where he lived with Tigerstar and Brokenstar. (Since Scourge was a Flat-Earth Atheist he went to literal oblivion, when Firestar killed him.
Later on, within the Dark Forest, Darkstripe mentors some Clan cats including Breezepelt and Antpelt. While Breezepelt eventually would redeem himself, Antpelt was killed by Ivypool twice in an attempt to win the Dark Forest's support. Darkstripe cares little if at all for those around him and just seeks to further his racist agenda.
Any Evil Is Cool, Freudian Excuse or other depth?
Absolutely not. While Scourge at least has this badass mafia guy image going on, Darkstripe is literally just a bigoted asshole for no real reason. He even has the audacity to not follow Tigerstar into exile but for pragmatic reasons: because he wanted to be The Mole for Tigerstar.
There's one instance when he dies that he says "No, everything's dark" that was a poor attempt at garnering sympathy as it just shows that he wasn't welcome in StarClan but it's not played for drama or sorrow at all and everyone seems to go "Eh. That's one less traitor in the forest."
The only time he does anything resembling something badass is being one of the more competent fighters when Tigerstar and Brokenstar are Deader than Dead. But not really. It's impressive for him anyway.
Verdict?
Leaning yes.
Edited by Klavice on Jul 4th 2019 at 6:03:52 AM
Darkstripe.
Got a couple more Hate Sinks on my chopping block before I write entries. Here's an overlooked duo or trio from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
From the season six episode Family we are introduced to Tara Maclay's family consisting of her unnamed father, her brother Donald and traditional cousin Beth. They serve as the villains of the week.
Who are the Maclay's ? What makes them despicable ?
Mr. Maclay, and his son and niece show up to Sunnydale on the eve of Tara's twentieth birthday and plan to take her home. Tara has apparently left home for months now and prefers to avoid her family and as it turns out they have convinced her that the magic she and her mother have is due to them being demons. Emotionally manipulating and controlling the women in their family for years, it's quite understandable that Tara wants to avoid them; despite this Tara has believed she is secretly an evil demon set to emerge on her twentieth birthday.
Her family show up to Sunnydale to "reach out" to Tara and take her home, claiming its to protect her, and her friends. It's revealed in a provate conversation with Beth, that the family is "traditional", as in patriarchal and women are slaves under the men's control; Beth mentions to Tara that she is a "selfish bitch" for thinking she deserves anything more in life. Tara desperate to hide her "demon side" casts a spell to do so, unfortunately preventing her friends from seeing the demons Glory sent after them in this episode. Tara eventually deactivates the spell, which in turn defeats the demons, but her family arrived to reveal "the truth" to Tara's friends. Spike quickly realizes that the "demon side" of the Maclay women is a lie spread by the men in order to control their women and bops Tara on the nose to prove she's human; the chip in Spike's brain - which hurts him should he ever hurt a human - activates proving that Tara's not a demon to her cathartic delight. Tara's family begins to demand Tara go with them, with Donald threatening to beat Tara down- at which point all of Tara's friends stand up to them and forces them to leave.
Complexity or Evil Is Cool ?
About as much as you can get from Fred Phelps style parenting. Yes, Tara's lesbianism isn't the focus of the abuse, with it being swapped out for her being a witch, but obvious analogy is obvious. They are simply a "traditional" family were men lord over the women and use emotional abuse and gaslighting to keep them in check.
I would give leenlancy to Beth, if it wasn't for her Stockholm Syndrome and Happiness in Slavery; she talks about the men putting the women to work as a good thing, calls Tara a "selfish bitch" for seeking a better life away from the abuse and angrily asks her if she's "happy now" when the lie is exposed.
"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."Write-up time. Also yes to Maclays.
- While Warrior Cats has many villains, few are as unsympathetic as these two.
- Socks and Ruby from the manga The Rise of Scourge are extremely petty and unsympathetic. They start off saying to Scourge (then a kitten named Tiny) that "unwanted kittens get drowned or killed" and they egg Scourge on to venture into the wilderness where he meets a young Tigerpaw. Scourge gets savagely beaten to the point of almost dying, until Bluestar stops it. When Scourge returns from the beating, Socks and Ruby scoff at him and they claim he should have died and chide him for entering the wilderness in the first place, when it was their goading that did that. As far as awful siblings in the series go, these two are in a class of their own, and indirectly started Scourge's rise to power and subsequent Jumping Off the Slippery Slope. When they get abandoned by their humans, Scourge has them exiled.
- Darkstripe is Graystripe's evil elder brother and a bully to non-Clan cats. He starts the series as Tigerstar's top enforcer, while taunting Firestar (formerly Rusty) with "Once a kittypet, always a kittypet" despite however many times Firestar proves his loyalty to the Clans. He truly begins to sink low after it's revealed he tried to poison Sorrelkit for seeing him meet ShadowClan's deputy Blackfoot. Then Tigerstar orders him to execute Stormpaw and Featherpaw, both halfClan cats and children of Graystripe, his own brother, and a RiverClan cat named Silverstream. When Stonefur, the current deputy of RiverClan, and also a halfClan cat defends them, he is murdered by Darkstripe and Blackfoot together. During the fight against BloodClan, Darkstripe tries to kill Firestar out of sheer malice, despite the fact he is fighting on the side of Tigerstar's killer saying "Nothing matters, all I want is to see you dead." Showing no remorse for any of his actions, and only fearing death when it happens, he was truly one of the most despicable of Tigerstar's minions.
Edited by Klavice on Jul 4th 2019 at 6:02:39 AM
Second Buffy the Vampire Slayer Hate Sink is a recurring villain on the show and the Big Bad of the season 10 comic; D'Hoffrynn.
Who is D'Hoffryn ? Why is he despicable ?
D'Hoffryn is Anya Jenkin's former master, and father figure, being the one who made her into a vengeance demon. D'Hoffryn is the creator and master of all vengeance demons, who grant wishes of revenge like twisted demonic genies. Anyways, he's introduced all the way back in season 3, refusing to help Anya when she looses her demon powers.
Anyways he shows up time and time again as some kind of strict of affable father figure and then we get to season seven, where Anya after becomes a vengeance demon once again. This second stint is short lived as it results in a frat house massacre. D'Hoffryn is summoned with Anya asking to reverse the massacre, and D'Hoffryn states doing so would require the death of a vengeance demon and Anya prepares to sacrifice herself. However, D'Hoffryn summons Anya's friend Halfrex and kills her to punish Anya. D'Hoffryn disown Anya for choosing to be human, and states his disgust with her. Later on, he sends demons to kill Anya out of spite.
D'Hoffryn appears later in the comics, eventually becoming a member of the Magic Council Buffy helped set up to control the new rules of magic (long story). D'Hoffryn creates his own "copy" of Anya that is still loyal to him, and appears her former lover Xander. Over time, D'Hoffryn kills other members of the Council and reveals his treachery to Buffy an the gang. D'Hoffryn is resentful that his magic is limited to the wihses and whims of humans and wants to free himself and control all magic with him being on top. Buffy manages to turn the rest of the magic community against D'Hoffryn, and D'Hoffryn leads an attack against Buffy and her friends, blaming them for taking Anya away from him. They shoot down all his claims of caring about Anya, making it clear he saw her as a possession and he was threatened by her independence. D'Hoffryn orders Anya to kill Xander, but when she refuses and turns against D'Hoffryn, he kills her out of spite, which turns the other vengeance demons against him. Buffy severs D'Hoffryn's arm and he flees to another dimension. He is ultimately chased down by Buffy and the gang, and when he cowardly tries to get out of trouble with a wish, Buffy decapitates D'Hoffryn.
Complexity or Evil Is Cool ?
Nah. He is prestened as an affably evil, who seems to care about the girls under his control, especially Anya. However as season seven shows, and season ten makes clear, D'Hoffryn sees them as little more than his poessions to use, control and abuse. It's not enough for him to kill Anya, he kills her friend to punish her, out of spite, showing nothing but contempt with her for choosing to be human.
When he goes Big Bad in season 10, he's characterized as nothing more than a cowardly. selfish, entitled and power hungry demon with nothing to make him likable or sympathetic. All seeming redeeming qualities were a front.
"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."I'll give him a yeah. Faux Affably Evil isn't a disqualifier after all.
Time for me to try again. Several days ago
, I asked for help to solve Kai Chisaki/Overhaul's case from My Hero Academia so he can get a proper write-up. I didn't get anywhere, so I'm asking everyone here again. How does he play with the Hate Sink trope? I can think of three options: he's either a subversion, a downplayed case, and a zigzagged case.
TL;DR: Yes, he's the most personally despicable villain in the series especially because of what he has done to Eri. But it would be futile to discuss him without acknowledging his character depths and redeeming qualities, which set him apart from the likes of Akio Ohtori
from Revolutionary Girl Utena and Shou Tucker
from Fullmetal Alchemist. This is why I feel ambiguous about the author's intent.
Edited by IukaSylvie on Jul 7th 2019 at 8:25:01 PM
And now for the entires.
- The Craft: Chris Hooker is an arrogant and misogynistic student despite seemingly befriending Sarah. After wooing her on an innocent date, Chris begins to spread rumours about Sarah putting out to brag about "scoring" with her and getting Sarah shammed. It's evident that he did the same to Nancy, and is implied to have even gave her an STD. It's also implied he does the same with other girls in his school. As punishment, Chris is subjected to a spell that turns him a lovesick lapdog for Sarah, but it ultimately backfires when he becomes an obsessed stalker and ultimately tries to rape her.
- Beyond: Two Souls: Phillip Holmes, is Jodie's verbally and emotionally abusive adoptive father. When she was a young girl with barely any control of her powers or brother Aiden, Phillip would openly call Jodie a "demon", or "monster". In addition to blaming Jodie for her short comings, and not defending her when bullied and nearly smothered in the snow, he reacts with impatience or annoyance when someone stands up to him. While its implied they lost one child in infancy, Phillip doesn't have that much consideration for his wife's feelings, with Phillip pressuring her to abandon her second child that she clearly cares about.
- Life Is Strange: Before the Storm: Eliot Hampden seemed to have been Chloe's friend, showing an obvious crush on her and jealousy for her and Rachel. At first the only real thing off about him is how unsubtle he is about it, but should Chloe look through his stuff, she will discover his "love poems" in which he fantasizes about killing Chloe if she rejected him. Eventually Eliot snaps and corners Chloe in Rachel's house; there he declares he is entitled to Chloe and her love because he "was there for her" when Max left, and tries to emotionally manipulate and gaslight her against Rachel, before potentially trying to force himself on her.
- Buffy the Vampire Slayer:
- The Mcclay family from the season five episode "Family", consisting of Tara's father and brother are an allegory for homophobic families and abuse against their gay children; using Tara's magic as a substitute. The Maclay's claim to have Tara's best interests as heart and want to take her back home, revealing to have emotionally manipulated her with the lies that she is a demon waiting to awake. It's revealed that this is a lie the men of the family spread to the women to control them and treat them as slaves. When Tara's brother threatens to beat her down, Buffy and her friends stand up for Tara to her family, and expose their lie. While Tara's cousin Beth seems sympathetic, she see's Tara as a "selfish bitch" for wanting to live a free life, angrily asking if she's "happy now" when the lie is exposed.
- In his numerous appearances D'Hoffryn seems to be a tough but fair father figure to Anya. As leader of the Vengeance Demons, he seems to extend this to his other girls, but season seven shows his true colours by releasing Anya from her demon powers, disowning her for leaving him and kills one of her friends to punish her, before sending demons to kill her out of spite. Becoming the Big Bad of the season ten comics, D'Hoffryn kills fellow council members in a plan to take control of magic, and creates Anya's Ghost that is still loyal to him. He claims to be upset that Anya's friends took her away from them, but they shoot down his claims by stating he thought he owned her. D'Hoffryn orders Anya to kill Xander, before killing her when she turns against him as well. The other Vengeance demons abandon him when they see how selfish he is, and when about to be killed, cowardly tries to swindle his way out to Buffy and her friends.
Edited by Beast on Jul 5th 2019 at 8:56:09 AM
"It's like...a cliff, and if I do it, I'm just gonna...fall." "I think we're already falling."- F.E.A.R.: David is an Ax-Crazy sociopath who believes himself deserving of total ownership of Nicole. He starts out engaging in relatively minor rebellious behaviors, but escalates when he beats up Gary for hugging Nicole and hits her in the process. Once he wins her back over, he proves himself to be just as detestable as ever, stealing Margo away from her boyfriend to rape her and threatening her when he suspects she told Nicole. Later, he murders Gary, and he and his gang break into Nicole's house with the intention of killing her entire family and Margo, then taking Nicole with him.
Edited by Stellarvore on Jul 5th 2019 at 10:04:31 AM
I'll take an EP for a fanfic character, one of two candidates:
What is the Work?
Our Blades Are Sharp is an A Song of Ice and Fire fanfic where Roose Bolton's legitimate son Domeric, a Posthumous Character in the books, doesn't die by his bastard brother Ramsay's hand and goes to be fostered at Winterfell instead. He befriends the Starks and is eventually betrothed to Sansa Stark, an arrangement that they both agree with.
Who is the Candidate and what do they do?
Ramsay Snow, Domeric's illegitimate brother. Conceived out of rape when Lord Bolton inflicted Droit du Seigneur (excuse my spelling) on a miller's wife, he is a Serial Killer and Serial Rapist terrorizing the people living on the Dreadfort's lands, leading a band of brigands known as the Bastard's Boys. He also flays his victims, leaving them at his mother's home as "Proof of his heritage"; he also offers the corpses of his victims to his necrophiliac henchman Reek. It's also mentioned that he rapes young girls and boys. However, Ramsay has even higher goals: succeed his father as Lord of the Dreadfort... after removing an obstacle in his way by murdering his legitimate half-brother, who Ramsay sees as a pretender and "no true Bolton". Eventually, as part of his master plan to become heir to the Dreadfort, Ramsay murders his mother and burns down his home to attract his attention. Unfortunately (fortunately for most of the rest of the characters), Lord Bolton decides that's enough and has Ramsay captured and brutally tortured as long as he lives; his tongue is removed first and Lord Bolton decides to castrate him next...
What makes him personally despicable?
He murders his own mother. The books version spoke highly of her and seemed to be in the dark about the real circumstances of his conception while the show version of his mother died when Ramsay was young, but this version decides she has no place in the life he wants to create and murders her without a second thought. He's mostly seen through the eyes of one of his henchmen, a man named Robard who is a spy for Lord Bolton (nicknamed Bitter because he's from a region called the Bite) who despises Ramsay for what Ramsay has had him do over two years of being in his service; when Ramsay is finally caught and tortured, Robard feels no pity or remorse for what Ramsay's going through. Domeric wanted to know him until Roose told him of what he had done and what he planned to do. Sansa, who never met Ramsay in this timeline, thinks he deserved what happened to him. In general, he's feared and/or hated by anyone who hears of him and nobody mourns him, and he killed the only person who would.
Evil Is Cool? Complexity? Freudian Excuse?
None really. One could say he wants to please his father, but in his case, Freudian Excuse Is No Excuse simply for how despicable his actions are. For the entirety of his page time, he's throwing what amounts to a temper tantrum because he doesn't have what he thinks he deserves.
Verdict?
Both canon versions of Ramsay are Hate Sinks already, but I think this version of Ramsay manages to count being raised under different circumstances than the others and does as he pleases even while he's not under Roose's protection. Which makes him even dumber than in both versions of canon, since we know little of what Ramsay did before he murdered Domeric in the books. So he's no different despite being under slightly different circumstances and never meeting his father.
Edited by k410ren on Mar 17th 2022 at 10:33:37 AM
"I'll show you the Dark Side." CM actors and killsIsn't Snow (at least the GoT version) also a Complete Monster? Regardless, he gets a yeah from me. Dude sounds awful. I'll see if I can watch GOT eventually.
Both versions (the book and show) of Ramsay Snow/Bolton are Complete Monsters. This one doesn’t quite reach that level since he gets cut off at the knees before he can get too far, but he definitely fits here.
"I'll show you the Dark Side." CM actors and killsThe next batch of Hate Sink entries have been added to the main page:
- Batman: The Telltale Series: The main antagonists — Lady Arkham, Penguin, and Two-Face — are all varying degrees of sympathetic. The same cannot be said for these particularly loathsome individuals:
- Hamilton Hill is the corrupt mayor of Gotham City. Back in the day, Hill was in a partnership with Carmine Falcone and Thomas Wayne, and was complicit in having innocent citizens committed to Arkham Asylum in order to steal their land and riches. Among Hill and Wayne's victims were Esther Cobblepot, the mother of Oswald. When Martha, Thomas's wife, threatened to expose her husband and Hill's activities, Hill hired Joe Chill to assassinate both Thomas and Martha. In the present day, Harvey Dent, backed by Bruce Wayne, is running for mayor against Hill. Hill, teaming up with Oswald Cobblepot, gathers incriminating evidence against the Waynes to hurt Harvey's chances of mayorhood. If Bruce chooses to visit Hill as himself after discovering his partnership with Cobblepot, Hill will try to convince Bruce to stop supporting Harvey in exchange for information, angrily throwing him out if he refuses. During a live debate with Harvey, Hill, under the influence of a drug by the Children of Arkham, reveals his desire to incinerate the city's poor. Under the mercy of Cobblepot, Hill pathetically begs for his life, before Cobblepot shoots him to death, avenging his mother.
- John and Patricia Vale are the foster parents of Victoria Arkham and one of the main catalysts for her descent to villainy. Taking Vicki in after her birth parents' deaths, the Vales would routinely abuse her and their other adopted children by chaining them up in their Torture Cellar and beating them with a belt. Years later, Vicki, now going by the alias of Lady Arkham, pays the Vales a visit and brutally murders them in retribution for all the pain they put her through.
- Black Mirror: Catherine Ortiz, from Rachel, Jack, and Ashley Too, is the aunt and manager of Ashley O and an abusive and manipulative sociopath. While claiming to love and support Ashley, Catherine actively resents her niece and belittles her attempts to truly express herself behind her back. Catherine will stoop to any low to control and exploit her niece, including putting her into a chemically-induced coma and attempting to have her killed once she no longer needs her. When her plans are foiled, Catherine dives for the stage and cowers in fear of the police while her niece gives her a well-deserved middle finger.
- The Protomen: The crowd of humans are the most cowardly individuals in both albums. In Act I, they watch as Proto Man seemingly dies and do nothing, before demanding the revived Proto Man be killed for insulting them and degrading his memory. In Act II, they happily allow Dr. Wily to take over the city and demand the death of the innocent Dr. Light.
- Revolutionary Girl Utena: Akio Ohtori from the anime series convinces his 14-year-old student and housemate, Utena Tenjou, that he's a rich, wise gentleman and the only Reasonable Authority Figure in Ohtori Academy. The truth is that as "End of the World", he runs the Rose Duels that passes his sister, Anthy Himemiya, around as the docile Rose Bride to the victors, abusive or otherwise. He claims to be the only one who can love Anthy and save her from taking the Swords of Hate in his place as a witch, but he has no qualms about raping her during their weekly tryst, letting the Swords stab her, throwing her as a meat shield against Utena, or ordering her to stab Utena in the back literally. He only sees his fiancée, Kanae, as a means to stay in power as the acting chairman, sleeping with her mother and implicitly disposing of her in secret. He seduces the blissfully unaware Utena, with their age differences making her consent for their sex questionable at best. When confronted, he offers Utena a chance to become his princess and leave Anthy in distress, saying that she shouldn't fight because "dresses don't go with swords". He refuses to take responsibility for his actions, going as far as to tell Utena that she has compromised her morals by sleeping with an engaged man and that Anthy enjoys being a witch.
- Harry Potter: Peter Pettigrew, otherwise known as Wormtail, is a former classmate-turned-nemesis of James "Prongs" Potter, Sirius "Padfoot" Black, and Remus "Moony" Lupin, having betrayed the Potter family to Lord Voldemort when the latter threatened his life. Initially believed to be dead at Black's hands, Wormtail had, in reality, framed Black as Voldemort's informant before faking his own death, killing innocent people and cutting off his own finger in the process before taking the form of a rat, Scabbers, owned by the Weasley family. When confronted by Lupin and Black, Wormtail blames Voldemort's threats for his treachery, before begging for underserved mercy, only being saved by the mercy of Harry Potter. Escaping from the encounter, Wormtail assists Voldemort in various tasks out of his own self-interest, such as interrogating Bertha Jorkins, freeing Barty Crouch Jr., putting Barty Crouch Sr. under an Imperius Curse, and killing Frank Bryce when the latter overhears him and Voldemort talking. Wormtail eventually creates Voldemort's new body, maiming Harry, and killing Cedric Diggory in the process. Spending his next few years doing menial tasks for Voldemort, Wormtail eventually meets his demise when Harry reminds him that the former owes Harry his life, causing Wormtail to hesitate before trying to kill Harry regardless, only to be strangled by his own magic metal arm. A disgusting, selfish, sniveling coward, Wormtail makes his mark on the series as a traitor.
- Warrior Cats:
- Socks and Ruby, from the manga The Rise of Scourge, are extremely petty and unsympathetic. They start off saying to Scourge (then a kitten named Tiny) that "unwanted kittens get drowned or killed" and they egg Scourge on to venture into the wilderness where he meets a young Tigerpaw. Scourge gets savagely beaten to the point of almost dying until Bluestar stops it. When Scourge returns from the beating, Socks and Ruby scoff at him and they claim he should have died and chide him for entering the wilderness in the first place, when it was their goading that did that. As far as awful siblings in the series go, these two are in a class of their own, and indirectly started Scourge's rise to power and subsequent Jumping Off the Slippery Slope. When they get abandoned by their humans, Scourge has them exiled.
- Darkstripe is Graystripe's evil older brother and a bully to non-Clan cats. He starts the series as Tigerstar's top enforcer while taunting Firestar (formerly Rusty) with "Once a kittypet, always a kittypet" despite however many times Firestar proves his loyalty to the Clans. He truly begins to sink low after it's revealed he tried to poison Sorrelkit for seeing him meet ShadowClan's deputy Blackfoot. Then Tigerstar orders him to execute Stormpaw and Featherpaw, both halfClan cats and children of Graystripe, his own brother, and a RiverClan cat named Silverstream. When Stonefur, the current deputy of RiverClan, and also a halfClan cat defends them, he is murdered by Darkstripe and Blackfoot together. During the fight against BloodClan, Darkstripe tries to kill Firestar out of sheer malice, despite the fact he is fighting on the side of Tigerstar's killer saying "Nothing matters, all I want is to see you dead." Showing no remorse for any of his actions, and only fearing death when it happens, he was truly one of the most despicable of Tigerstar's minions.
- The Craft: Chris Hooker is an arrogant and misogynistic student despite seemingly befriending Sarah. After wooing her on an innocent date, Chris begins to spread rumors about Sarah putting out to brag about "scoring" with her and getting Sarah shammed. It's evident that he did the same to Nancy, and is implied to have even given her an STD. It's also implied he does the same with other girls in his school. As punishment, Chris is subjected to a spell that turns him a lovesick lapdog for Sarah, but it ultimately backfires when he becomes an obsessed stalker and ultimately tries to rape her.
- Beyond: Two Souls: Phillip Holmes is Jodie's verbally and emotionally abusive adoptive father. When she was a young girl with barely any control of her powers or brother Aiden, Phillip would openly call Jodie a "demon", or "monster". In addition to blaming Jodie for her short comings, and not defending her when bullied and nearly smothered in the snow, he reacts with impatience or annoyance when someone stands up to him. While it's implied they lost one child in infancy, Phillip doesn't have that much consideration for his wife's feelings, with Phillip pressuring her to abandon her second child that she clearly cares about.
- Life Is Strange: Before the Storm: Eliot Hampden seemed to have been Chloe's friend, showing an obvious crush on her and jealousy for her and Rachel. At first, the only real thing off about him is how unsubtle he is about it, but should Chloe look through his stuff, she will discover his "love poems" in which he fantasizes about killing Chloe if she rejected him. Eventually, Eliot snaps and corners Chloe in Rachel's house; there he declares he is entitled to Chloe and her love because he "was there for her" when Max left and tries to emotionally manipulate and gaslight her against Rachel, before potentially trying to force himself on her.
- Buffy the Vampire Slayer:
- The McClay family from the season five episode "Family", consisting of Tara's father and brother, are an allegory for homophobic families and abuse against their gay children, using Tara's magic as a substitute. The Maclay's claim to have Tara's best interests in heart and want to take her back home, revealing to have emotionally manipulated her with the lies that she is a demon waiting to awake. It's revealed that this is a lie the men of the family spread to the women to control them and treat them as slaves. When Tara's brother threatens to beat her down, Buffy and her friends stand up for Tara to her family and expose their lie. While Tara's cousin, Beth, seems sympathetic, she sees Tara as a "selfish bitch" for wanting to live a free life, angrily asking if she's "happy now" when the lie is exposed.
- In his numerous appearances, D'Hoffryn seems to be a tough but fair father figure to Anya. As the leader of the Vengeance Demons, he seems to extend this to his other girls, but season seven shows his true colors by releasing Anya from her demon powers, disowning her for leaving him and kills one of her friends to punish her, before sending demons to kill her out of spite. Becoming the Big Bad of the season ten comics, D'Hoffryn kills fellow council members in a plan to take control of magic and creates Anya's Ghost that is still loyal to him. He claims to be upset that Anya's friends took her away from them, but they shoot down his claims by stating he thought he owned her. D'Hoffryn orders Anya to kill Xander, before killing her when she turns against him as well. The other Vengeance demons abandon him when they see how selfish he is, and when about to be killed, cowardly tries to swindle his way out to Buffy and her friends.
- F.E.A.R.: David is an Ax-Crazy sociopath who believes himself deserving of total ownership of Nicole. He starts out engaging in relatively minor rebellious behaviors, but escalates when he beats up Gary for hugging Nicole and hits her in the process. Once he wins her back over, he proves himself to be just as detestable as ever, stealing Margo away from her boyfriend to rape her and threatening her when he suspects she told Nicole. Later, he murders Gary, and he and his gang break into Nicole's house with the intention of killing her entire family and Margo, then taking Nicole with him.
I tried to come up with something good for James for Awhile. This is all I could come up with so feel free to edit away, also could I get more votes on him?
The Flash:James Zoloman Is Hunter Zoloman/Zooms Abusive father and the reason Hunter became the Monster he did, His most cruel act being Forcing his son to watch James kill his own wife, And Hunters mother.
Things are really about to get Fun around hereHither I come once more, with a fanfic of my own!
What is the work?
The Sound Designer, a Zootopia fanfic authored by LionKingAlex
(myself). It follows the life and growth of Milo Rabberts, a downtrodden production sound editor who is hapless with his current job and pines for change.
Who is the character, and what do they do?
Terrence Xander, an Iberian lynx who works as a sound effects editor at Stagart Studios and holds hegemony over the department by snagging every single job that could paint him in an exemplary light, even though he doesn't do all of the work himself.
What makes them personally despicable?
Where to begin with this guy? He antagonizes Milo incessantly, rubs his alleged success into his face and deliberately tries to sabotage his attempt to apply for a better job. This naturally elicits dislike from Milo and Melanie. To boot, he's no better to his sycophants either - he is very thin-skinned when it comes to criticism and responds to it with anger. This, as well as his indignant reaction to having caused a coworker to spill coffee on herself, is a strong indication of narcissistic personality disorder. He is also a massive Glory Hound who is willing to walk over anyone to get what he wants.
Evil Is Cool traits? Complexity? Freudian Excuse?
Nope, nope and nope. He is a flat-out Jerkass who has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
Verdict?
As the author of said fanfic, I will concede that Xander was written and situated in such a way to elicit strong disliking from the readers and the characters around him.
UPDATE:
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Edited by LionKingAlex on Jul 13th 2019 at 12:05:17 PM

Furthermore, I myself have effortposted one Complete Monster (Haman, from Book of Esther), 3 Villainy Free Villains from romantic comedies (1 from No Strings Attached and 2 from Set It Up), and Peter "Wormtail" Pettigrew, whom is, I'm pretty sure, somewhere in between, being insufficiently heinous by Wizarding World Standards but being a proper villain regardless.
If a character is primarily supposed to be despicable by virtue of the author's intent, then this trope is in play.
As for Socks and Ruby, the EP makes them sound extremely petty, and therefore, while they pale in comparison to Scourge, I will reaffirm my approval of them as Hate Sinks.
This trope is not YMMV. While entries are absolutely supposed to list the actions, behaviours, and interactions that indicate the character's intentional presentation as despicable, it is a trope that can only really be used intentionally.
Edited by SkyCat32 on Jul 3rd 2019 at 12:38:07 PM