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The main concern of a Hate Sink is whether the narrative treats the character as someone intended to be despised.

The character in question must actually display detestable qualities, and be hated by other characters at least, or treated by the narrative like someone you are supposed to hate. The author's declared intent cements an example, but is not needed if the narrative itself treats the character as someone who is supposed to be hated.

A Hate Sink may have charismatic traits, a troubled past, or complexity, but in order for this trope to be in effect, such traits must be de-emphasized by the narrative in favour of their detestable traits.

If you're not sure if a character qualifies, you can consider the following when asking the thread:

Who is the character, and what do they do?

State who the character is, and what courses of action they take.

What makes them personally despicable?

State the specific reasons they are despicable, such as petty behaviour and personal villainy.

Evil Is Cool traits? Complexity? Freudian Excuse?

State whether or not the character has any traits which get in the way of them being despicable, and if so, whether said traits are de-emphasised in favour of their despicable behaviour.

Edited by nombretomado on Jun 20th 2020 at 4:37:17 AM

SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from Systems Corp Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
The Draftsman of Doom
May 13th 2019 at 4:20:09 PM

I still think that once we are done re-evaluation of examples, we need to request a lock on the Hate Sink pages to prevent further misuse.

Edited by SkyCat32 on May 13th 2019 at 7:57:38 AM

Why did it have to be me who was created for this?
gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York
Musician/Composer
May 13th 2019 at 5:58:02 PM

[tup] to Brad.

No matter who you are, always be yourself.
MasterJoseph Frolaytia X Qwenthur of Heavy Object Relationship Status: Seeking boyfriend-free girl
Frolaytia X Qwenthur of Heavy Object
May 13th 2019 at 6:44:08 PM

Opened a re-evaluation box here.

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Klavice The Kitsune Overlord from Pacific Canada Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
The Kitsune Overlord
May 13th 2019 at 6:56:38 PM

Anyone else care to vote on Roger Retinz now that we've established he's got no Evil is Cool or legit Freudian Excuse?

And time for another AA example through the wringer.

What's the work?

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Justice for All is the second game in the Ace Attorney series, and often regarded as one of, if not the weakest, for bizarre game design choices, not nearly as many likeable characters, and other minor issues. Today we're going to be looking at Case 2-4's Big Bad Matthew Engarde.

Who is Matt? What does he do?

Engarde is the final case of the second game's Big Bad and being one of Phoenix's few clients who are actually guilty. The case starts with him as the Nickel Samurai winning the Grand Prix Hero of Heroes competition over his rival Juan Corrida.

Now, Matt decides to use a camera to spy on his rival and finds out that he has his former girlfriend Celeste Inpax's suicide note which detailed Engarde throwing her away like trash and causing her suicide when Juan was going to marry her because of his pride. The note (or a rather convincing fake) in which Corrida was going to release to the public through a press conferance as the Nickel Samurai thus tarnishing Matt's image forever. Upon learning this, Engarde hires Shelly De Killer to assassinate Juan, and almost got away with it. However, thanks to the actions of Adrian Andrews he was the prime suspect. Realizing there was little way out, he had De Killer kidnap Maya Fey, the young 18 year old sidekick to Phoenix. When Phoenix found this out, after finding out how helpless Phoenix was, Matt decided to let Phoenix take his case.

In the court case following Engarde makes sure Phoenix is forced to get him an acquittal by forcing De Killer to starve Maya, and ordering De Killer to shoot Franziska Von Karma, one of the district's top prosecutors in the shoulder much like her father. This forces Miles Edgeworth to come out of retirement and prosecute the case. In a seemingly hopeless battle, Phoenix ends up accusing Adrian Andrews for the crime, nearly getting her convicted.

Despite all this, Phoenix is unable to indict Adrian abd thus is forced to let the trial go on another day. Engarde decides to keep Maya alive, as he tells Phoenix to visit his home and take care of his cat, Shoe. Throughout the day, Phoenix finds out that Engarde is a monster through and through. With seemingly no escape and the situation turning dire, Matt reveals his true persona to Phoenix and gloats about the fact Phoenix can't drop his case or else Maya will be murdered by De Killer. In the end, Mia points out the loophole in Matt's plan to which Phoenix exploits forcing Engarde to plead guilty.

Freudian Excuse or Mitigating Qualities?

Ha ha ha.... Nope. But Klavice, you might be thinking. What about his cat? Engarde doesn't even care for said cat any more than someone would care for furniture or property. He just acts like he cares and said cat is never mentioned again. Engarde is a simple shallow and evil villain, only concerned about himself.

Any Evil Is Cool traits?

Besides the fact he can pull A Glass of Chianti from nowhere in prison no less, absolutely none. Matt is a hateable scumbag through and through with not one moment that you think he's cool.

Verdict?

Easy, easy [tup].

Edited by Klavice on May 14th 2019 at 12:23:04 PM

I'm an aspiring writer. Feel free to give me ideas.
Kylotrope Barb(Its a thread joke you wouldn't get it) from Honolulu Hawaii
Barb(Its a thread joke you wouldn't get it)
May 13th 2019 at 9:50:21 PM

[tup] to Matt.

Things are really about to get Fun around here
gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York
Musician/Composer
May 13th 2019 at 10:33:21 PM

[tup] to Matt as well.

No matter who you are, always be yourself.
IukaSylvie from Kyoto, Japan Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
May 14th 2019 at 3:01:05 AM

Hello. This effort post is to re-evaluate Akio Ohtori from Revolutionary Girl Utena.

What is the work?

Revolutionary Girl Utena is a Feminist Fantasy anime series, though I don't think so personally (see my review for details). Anyway, I'll let the summary on This Very Wiki explain:

On the day of her parents' funeral, seven-year-old Utena meets a prince on a white horse. The prince gives Utena a signet ring and says it will one day lead her back to him. Utena, overwhelmed with emotion, decides that she too will become a prince. Seven years later, Utena (who now presents with a mix of male and female gender cues) has followed his trail to Ohtori Academy. When she attempts to defend her best friend Wakaba from an upperclassman, Utena becomes enmeshed in a sword fighting tournament with members of Ohtori's Student Council. The tournament's winner receives "The Power to Revolutionize the World" — as well as the hand of the demure and obedient Rose Bride, Anthy Himemiya.

Utena and Anthy slowly become friends, and Utena learns that her new "bride" has a connection to "End of the World", the mysterious force behind the sword duels. In the show's second ("Black Rose") arc, acting school chairman Akio Ohtori takes an interest in Utena — and everything, including Utena's relationship with Anthy, promptly goes to hell.

Who is he?

Akio Ohtori is the older brother of Anthy Himemiya. He works as the de facto chairman of Ohtori Academy in place of the ill actual chairman, whose daughter, Kanae, he is engaged to. He introduces himself to Utena as a gentlemanly Reasonable Authority Figure, but only to hide his true nature as "End of the World", who seeks to get his lost powers as Dios back by having someone open the Rose Gate.

As Dios, he used to be a Knight in Shining Armor who dedicated himself to save every Damsel in Distress. Long ago, when he was dying of his Chronic Hero Syndrome, Anthy pulled a Zero-Approval Gambit to take the wrath of the townspeople, represented as the Swords of Hate, in his place as a "Wicked Witch that took the prince and his light away from the needy world". He, as Dios, appeared before young Utena, who felt hopeless that nothing was eternal in the world since her parents died. He showed her Anthy's eternal Fate Worse than Death, inspiring her to become a prince herself so she could save Anthy.

In the present day, he abuses his own sister in many ways, letting the Swords of Hate continue stabbing her for an unknown amount of time, passing her around to any (potentially abusive) student that wins the duel, raping her when she briefly hesitates to continue their weekly tryst one night, and in the finale, throwing her as a meat shield against Utena, ordering her to stab Utena in the back literally, and telling her that only he can ever love her. He also cheats on his fiancée with several people, including her mother, Touga Kiryuu, and Utena; it should be noted that Touga and Utena are a high schooler and a middle schooler respectively, making him not only a Depraved Bisexual but also guilty of statutory rape. Eventually, his fiancée ends up reduced to a completely vegetative state by him, serving only to keep him officially in power in her father's academy.

To imply how much of a dirty manipulator he is, Fridge.Revolutionary Girl Utena notes that:

What authority figures do we see at Ohtori, besides Akio? They include a sexist jerk (a.k.a. that guy from episodes 7 and 30), an old woman with incredibly backward values (a.k.a. the guidance counselor) and an implied pedophile (a.k.a. Miki's piano teacher). With all that in mind, it's not unreasonable to assume that Akio must deliberately employ these kinds of people in order to further reinforce patriarchal values and oppress the students. Even worse, with all these bad authority figures it makes Akio look like the only trustworthy adult and thus putting him in a huge position of power. And as we know, Akio is not trustworthy at all.

When Utena confronts him in the finale, he reveals that he visited her as Dios so someone noble like her could open the Rose Gate for him. He then tells her that she has compromised her morals by knowingly sleeping with an engaged man — which is hypocritical since he's a cheating rapist who took advantage of her crush on him in the first place. He offers her a chance to stop fighting and live Happily Ever After with him as his princess, uncaring about the fact that Anthy will have to continue taking the blame for him as a Wicked Witch forever. His reason is that a girl like Utena can't handle power and that "dresses don't go with swords", proving himself to be a misogynist in gentleman's clothing. He also claims that Anthy willingly takes the Swords of Hate for him, ignoring the fact that he has abused and manipulated her into it. In the end, Anthy, now free thanks to Utena, gives him a "The Reason You Suck" Speech and leaves him for good alongside her pet, Chu-Chu, in search of her disappeared friend.

Mitigating factors?

He has none of the noble qualities he once had as Dios, though he can pretend to be a princely gentleman. He convinces Anthy that he must continue the dueling game so he can free her as his original heroic self, but his unspeakable abuse of her, among other things, makes it clear that he's a Not-So-Well-Intentioned Extremist only in it for power. He may be a good-looking Man of Wealth and Taste and a tough duelist, but his crimes are so horrific that there's nothing cool about him.

Conclusion?

He's by far THE most sickening, horrifying, and sadistic villain I've ever seen in any genre within any form of media. In fact, everything deplorable about him traumatized me so deeply that it took a long time to recover my mental health enough to be able to put aside my pure hate for him. If he's not a Hate Sink, I don't know who is. A passionate [tup] from me.

Edited by IukaSylvie on Aug 2nd 2019 at 5:33:06 PM

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Klavice The Kitsune Overlord from Pacific Canada Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
The Kitsune Overlord
May 14th 2019 at 4:07:30 AM

Ooh a pedophile... Sounds like a keeper.

Was he approved for Complete Monster too? Because judging from your effortpost I could see him as a solid Complete Monster too.

Edited by Klavice on May 14th 2019 at 4:07:49 AM

I'm an aspiring writer. Feel free to give me ideas.
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from Systems Corp Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Klavice The Kitsune Overlord from Pacific Canada Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
The Kitsune Overlord
May 14th 2019 at 5:06:29 AM

So I just checked the YMMV page and sure enough, Akio is listed as a Complete Monster. Then again, if you rape two underage girls with no remorse and fuck with them throughout their lives, you really can't aspire to be anything more. He also sexually harasses his little brother so yeah that's an easy keep.

Edited by Klavice on May 14th 2019 at 5:10:15 AM

I'm an aspiring writer. Feel free to give me ideas.
Libraryseraph World's Strongest Woman from Canada Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
World's Strongest Woman
May 14th 2019 at 6:09:58 AM

[tup] to Matt and Akio (although Akio doesn't have a little brother, so I'm not sure what that's referring to...?)

Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination
Klavice The Kitsune Overlord from Pacific Canada Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
The Kitsune Overlord
May 14th 2019 at 8:12:03 AM

I thought Anthy was a boy. My bad.

I'm an aspiring writer. Feel free to give me ideas.
ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
May 14th 2019 at 9:41:47 AM

Alright, Despite originally not wanting going to participate in this thread due to the lack of interest, I might gonna swing once in a blue moon to participate in this thread a little bit but don't expect I propose a lot of people. That being said, lets start with the example that is an approved CM by me:

What's the Work

Twin Star Exorcists is an anime about two kids called Rokuro and Benio and their lives as exorcist warriors. Rokuro once had the dream to be the greatest Exorcist, and to cleanse all Impurities. But a tragedy in his past has made him no longer wish to have anything to do with exorcists. Enter Benio, a girl who, through a tragedy of her own, wishes to be the greatest Exorcist.

Needless to say the two don't really get along, but forces conspire to bring them together due to an ancient prophecy that states the child of their union will be the most powerful exorcist to ever exist.

Yes, I mention that Rokuro had a painful tragedy in the past and it was caused by someone. Who is this someone you may ask? Say hello to Yuuto Ijika everyone. Keep in mind that I only talked about the anime version so yeah...

Who Is He/What Has He Done

Okee dokee... For those who don't know who Yuuto Ijika is, he is basically Benio's long lost twin brother and Rokuro's friend who apparently died due to a tragedy that happened two years before the main story in the dorm that both Rokuro and Yuuto stayed together, the Hiinatsuki Dormitory, because of the attacks by several monsters known as Impurities that murders several of the children...Except it wasn't the case.

It turns out that Yuuto was the one who started the whole debacle by corrupting several innocent children on the dormitories into mindless corrupted impurities under the pretense that he will make them stronger. Because of this tragedy, Rokuro had no choice to kill several of his friends and had no choice but to abandon his dream as the greatest exorcists so that he won't hurt everyone again. Apparently Yuuto died in this tragedy...

Until Episode 9 when he revealed himself again to both Rokuro and Benio while gloating about the tragedy that he had caused while giving Benio a horrific "The Reason You Suck" Speech after Benio horrifically knows the truth about her own brother and simply tries to reject it. That's his first appearance and just a tip of the iceberg on what's to come.

In his next appearance, he corrupted Rokuro's childhood friend, Mayura, into an impurity so that he could "test" how strong Rokuro is which resulted not only Rokuro getting pissed but also one of the members of the Twelve Guardians, Seigen Amawaka, as Mayura is Seigen's daughter after all. During the fight against Yuuto, Seigen ended up fatally wounded which resulted on him retired from his position as a Twelve Guardian members.

Appeared again in the next fight, Yuuto then shows his brutality and sheer sadism towards both Rokuro and Benio during the fight such as managing to injure and break Rokuro's arm, damages Benio's leg while sadistically stomping on it and then took Benio's precious hairpin which is a personal memento that he gave Benio in the past only to smash it to pieces while having this beautiful quote:

"Come on Roku. You really should've cast Iron Armor. Still, I guess in the end,[Looks at Benio] a loser will never be anymore than a loser, huh? [Grabs Benio's head] You know...You weren't really trying to kill me at first, were you? I'm sure I'm wrong, but...Did you perhaps think this was all some kind of misunderstanding? That maybe I was someone other than the brother you knew? You didn't believe that, did you!? [Proceeds to take Benio's hair tie that Yuto gives to her years ago] The fact that you're still wearing the hair tie I gave you proves how pathetic you are. [Proceeds to smashes the Hair tie]. You really don't deserve to live neither as a human being nor an exorcist. I don't even need to destroy you myself. Go on hating your own weakness as you die a meaningless death."

In the meantime, while Rokuro asked if he ever to join Yuuto's side, Yuuto promised to spare Rokuro's loved ones, it was revealed that Yuuto didn't live into the side of the bargain considered he didn't intend to spare them anyway because he already become more powerful and seemingly don't need Rokuro on his side no more and plans to get stronger to steal all of the spell powers of the humans across the country which would cause many people to die much to Yuuto's utter apathy. Fortunately he got defeated for the time being except...That wasn't the case at all...

Two years later, when Yuuto is defeated and recovering in a holy tree known as Ame-no-Mihashira tree, it was revealed that he conspire with a powerful Impurity leader named Kuranashi such as giving him an info on how to drain the power of the 12 Guardians so that he could make himself much more powerful in a rather contrived way but destructive one at that which causes several casualties. The reason why he did this is so that he could drain the power of Kuranashi all for himself after Kuranashi stole all of the power from the 12 Guardians.

After Yuuto revives himself, he encounters the Twin Star Exorcists while also claims that he already have all of the power of the most powerful exorcist of the history called Abe no Seimei and killing him and in addition, he also taunts Rokuro that he already known about Rokuro's origins after absorbing several powers from the Ame-no-Mihashira tree. While Benio tries to calm Rokuro down due to Yuuto's provocations, Yuuto trapped her in a barrier while nearly killed her in said barrier. Fortunately, the head of the exorcists, Arima Tsuchimikado, stops the fight but the horror doesn't end there.

It turns out that after getting revived, he develops a Straw Nihilist philosophy that the world is going to end anyway and he plans to become a Harbinger of Destruction by killing all of the humans because they were dancing in Abe-no-Seimei tune all the time and to do that, he plans to transform Rokuro into a powerful being known as the Cataclysm King.

It was also revealed that he also grown obsessed with Rokuro despite in the past, he claims that Rokuro is the pinnacle of the people that he hates the most because of his optimism and all that and this is the utter reason why he did all of the atrocities in the first place. In addition, he also wants to fight with Rokuro until their death because not only he wants to have some fun and his Yandere-ish behavior, but also his Nihilistic view that the world is gonna end anyway.

Oh yeah, Yuuto threatens Rokuro that he will destroy the world by himself anyway if the latter doesn't fight with him and turned himself into the Cataclysm King. When it was revealed that Rokuro refuses to kill him and refuses to turn into Cataclysm King, Yuuto unsurprisingly attempts to launch an attack to the human world as a last minute F*** YOU to Rokuro while gloating that he will make Rokuro forget his loved ones and friends. As a result, Rokuro lost his sanity and delivers a final blow to Yuuto while ended up transforming himself into the Cataclysm King much to Yuuto's delight as he dies happily because he gets what he wanted.

Evil is Cool? Freudian Excuse? Complexity?

For the former two? Oh my god NO! Nothing screams likable ever since he shows up. Sure, he might be a nice brother towards Benio in the past or claims that he truly loved Rokuro and claims that he truly had a shitty life but that's all just BS Yuuto spews. In the end, he's a hatable POS and I considered him as a worst Complete Monster villain I've ever put for a reason. And yeah, I feel that his existence is probably due to the fact that the creators wanted to make the Impurity less hatable as you can't hate them due to being Made of Evil mooks (Although some of them especially the higher level Impurities known as Basara had an intellect and agency so yeah...)

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on May 14th 2019 at 4:55:15 PM

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from Systems Corp Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York
Musician/Composer
May 14th 2019 at 11:15:22 AM

[tup] to Yuuto.

No matter who you are, always be yourself.
Kylotrope Barb(Its a thread joke you wouldn't get it) from Honolulu Hawaii
Barb(Its a thread joke you wouldn't get it)
May 14th 2019 at 11:31:52 AM

[tup] to Akio and Yuuto.

Things are really about to get Fun around here
ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
May 14th 2019 at 2:24:45 PM

Just wanna ask about something:

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on May 14th 2019 at 4:25:11 PM

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
AustinDR from Fresh and ready for life.
May 14th 2019 at 2:29:32 PM

The whole idea behind most big bads are that they are either intended to be hateable, but ultimately, that is not how the general basis of the audience is. Frollo or Scar for instance were written to be hated, but they ended up being well-received instead. For the latter, Scar became the number one Disney Villain in a popularity poll.

A Big Bad I would say can come across as hate-worthy if they lack Evil Is Cool as a mitigating factor. One that is listed on the Western Animation page and the character page is the Lord Commander from Final Space. He lacks any elements that could make him "cool" instead coming off as a homicidally insane sociopath completely willing to doom reality itself for godhood.

Edited by AustinDR on May 14th 2019 at 2:31:24 AM

Why you little-!
ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
May 14th 2019 at 2:32:07 PM

Hmmmm... I asked about the Big Bad in question because there is someone in mind that I'm tempted to propose due to her nasty reputation in the Anime community as the person who made the main hero suffer due to her False Rape Accusation.

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
AustinDR from Fresh and ready for life.
ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
May 14th 2019 at 2:51:02 PM

@Austin DR Alrighty. Here goes

What's the Work

Tate no Yuusha no Narigari or The Rising of the Shield Hero is a Light Novel that tells us the story about an otaku named Naofumi Iwatani who got summoned into a medieval world along with three other heroes from Present Day Japan. After being summoned, Naofumi got the worst weapon and that's the shield. However, someone tries to help her and tries to stay by his side. But unfortunately, said someone betrayed him and this someone in question is the one I want to bring today. Meet Malty Melromarc everyone!

Who is She/What Has She Done

Malty S Melromarc is the first daughter of King Aultcray Melromarc or better known as Trash and Queen Mirella Q Melromarc from the Melromarc kingdom world. She is described as a rather angelic adventurer that tries to stay on the heroes side but unfortunately? Her personality is rather rotten to the core...

See, here's the thing, she disguise herself as a benevolent adventurer named "Myne Sophia" who has a habit of backstabbing her allies. When Naofumi got belittled due to getting shield as a weapon, Malty at first joined Naofumi side so that she could comfort Naofumi...

Unfortunately, it didn't last because Malty falsely accuses Naofumi of rape and stole all his belongings. Malty's reaction? Enjoying herself on Naofumi's suffering as Naofumi himself is branded as a criminal by the people around him and as a result, Naofumi himself is unable to trust anyone and trying to get the revenge on Malty as a raison d'etre for his life.

Unfortunately, after joining the team of a guy called Motoyasu, Malty went worse as the story goes on. At one point, she then tries to force both Motoyasu and Naofumi to duel against each other while trapping Naofumi's new companion, Rapthallia—a demihuman slave— and she also cheats during said duel and announces Motoyasu as the real winner.

After Naofumi tries to free Rapthalia, Malty then made Motoyasu as a king of the village that Naofumi saved from the catastrophic wave via her daddy, Aultcray, and also make Malty as a queen. After she becomes the queen, she then raises the poor taxes on the village to spite Naofumi. She also asks Naofumi to have duel again with Motoyasu to fight over the status as the lord of the village and unsurprisingly? Malty cheated and Motoyasu won against Naofumi.

When Malty's sister, Melty Q Melromarc, becomes a target of an assassination of a cult, initially, she went with the heroes so that she could rescue her but unsurprisingly, it was revealed that she uses them so that she could kill her sister so that she could reclaim the throne and then tries to frame Naofumi out of spite after this. This resulted on the heroes witnessed her unacceptable behavior while Motoyasu himself remained oblivious about what's going on.

Over the course of the novel/manga, unsurprisingly, she betrays both Motoyasu and Ren and then tries to hunt down both her sister, Rapthalia and Naofumi in a rather... Yandere-ish way to the point she burned an entire forest just to get them.

But fortunately, a pope then tries to expose the conspiracy which resulted on Malty quivering in panic and after the Queen overheard the conspiracy, the Queen then stripped Malty from the royalty and due to Naofumi's suggestion, she is now renamed as a "Bitch" and then sold into a sex slavery operated by King of Faubley and resulted on Malty becoming the 10.000 bride of the king and got tortured and raped to death...

But the horror doesn't end there...

One day, someone named Tact ended up reviving Malty and Malty's reaction? Manipulating Tact to do her own bidding and then tries to betray the entire world by performing a coup d'etat which resulted on the Queen getting killed. Unsurprisingly, Malty's coup failed and Naofumi renames Malty as a witch which resulted on her getting burned on the stakes. Ending Malty's reign once and for all.

Evil is Cool? Freudian Excuse? Complexity?

Here's the thing about Malty: I asked the question about can a Big Bad be a Hate Sink because the shit that Malty pulls definitely kept the plot ongoing and that shit in question earned her a total scrutiny in most of the Anime fandom including Tate no Yuusha fandom itself (Gone through several Social Experiment. I dare you give a picture of Malty or even saying Myne is the Best Girl or even shipping Naofumi to Malty, you'll be tore to shreds by the anime community although several of them are joking because of that to the point that the hate for her is rather meme worthy). Though I won't gonna lie that Malty is actually a Fragment Personality of a Bigger Fish actually, Medea Pideth Machina, who is essentially an evil goddess of betrayal who destroyed several worlds so I'm giving Malty a little bit of a leeway on this.

Another major issue is how her final fate is portrayed, getting raped to death by King Rapemurder. Yeah, it's bad... Really really bad to the point I lost my sympathy towards Naofumi and ask "WTF was the author thinking when writing this, he ended up unintentionally make the Hate Sink wins at the end" but I still think Malty has a bit of an atrocity and scrutiny to weight it up and yeah, during the interview when Aneko Yusagi says that most of the villains were based on the people that he knew in real life, it leaves several disturbing implications... Let's just leave it at that

Oh yeah, her Love to Hate entry in Tate no Yuusha YMMV page is a thing considered people only like her for the wrong reasons considered she is there to advancing the plot of Shieldbro so eh...

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from Systems Corp Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
The Draftsman of Doom
May 14th 2019 at 2:57:49 PM

Abstain on Malty...The fact that she is sexually assaulted gives me pause.

Edited by SkyCat32 on May 14th 2019 at 11:42:07 AM

Why did it have to be me who was created for this?
MasterJoseph Frolaytia X Qwenthur of Heavy Object Relationship Status: Seeking boyfriend-free girl
Frolaytia X Qwenthur of Heavy Object
May 14th 2019 at 4:02:43 PM

[tup]Salty Malty

Simply liking a character doesn't disqualify them.

Edited by MasterJoseph on May 14th 2019 at 6:12:12 AM

Woobie Slayer
Kylotrope Barb(Its a thread joke you wouldn't get it) from Honolulu Hawaii
Barb(Its a thread joke you wouldn't get it)
May 14th 2019 at 5:34:11 PM

Just gonna Ignrore the...potentially Controversial stuff and give a tentative yes to Malty.

Things are really about to get Fun around here
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from Systems Corp Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
The Draftsman of Doom
May 14th 2019 at 8:47:14 PM

Why hasn't Ajax's entry gone to his character page?

Edit: NVM, too early.

Edited by SkyCat32 on May 14th 2019 at 11:48:47 AM

Why did it have to be me who was created for this?

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