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HighCrate Since: Mar, 2015
#1: Dec 27th 2018 at 7:20:36 AM

This strikes me as a Just for Fun page or, at most, a Trivia page masquerading as a trope. It purports to be about works of fiction that have spawned a real-world religion, and the example list starts off that way, with the first few entries (although plagued by bad Example Indentation and general natter-ificness) including links to external sites that, with varying degrees of seriousness, purport to build religions around such things as Jedi-ism.

But the farther one scrolls down the page, the more strongly one suspects that most of the "examples" were tossed together by one person in an afternoon.

Possible solutions:

  • Cut the thing altogether. As it stands, it doesn't serve any particular purpose.
  • Limit examples to cases where somebody somewhere outside this site has made at least a half-hearted attempt to form an actual religious organization. Move to the Trivia namespace, as this is the sort of thing that is external to the work itself by definition.
  • Move to the Just for Fun namespace and let people have their dumb fun.

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#2: Dec 27th 2018 at 9:34:42 AM

I'm fine with either Trivia or JFF.

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#3: Dec 27th 2018 at 9:56:15 AM

Yeah, this seems like two things in one.

On the one hand, it seems like a subtrope of Life Imitates Art and a sister trope to Defictionalization (which specifically concerns products and other items). If we do make this a trivia item and a subtrope to Life Imitates Art, then I suggest we make it specifically about philosophies and groups that become defictionalized.

On the other hand, however, it does look like tropers had a bit too much fun with this page, making up "Tropology," "Straw Hatism," and "Zombism." Wherever the entry is just a one-liner of a "philosophy" or "perspective," I think we can reasonably agree that it's not defictionalized but rather just a troper or two having fun.

As such, I suggest we do both. That is, split off the fun stuff to JustForFun.Defictionalized Religion and keep the serious stuff that can be corroborated at Main.Intellectual Property Religion.

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HighCrate Since: Mar, 2015
#4: Dec 27th 2018 at 10:05:49 AM

I'd be fine with that; those two solutions aren't mutually exclusive.

It should still be moved to the Trivia namespace though. It's not a storytelling trope that exists within the work itself, but an interesting piece of Trivia about something that certain especially... dedicated... fans have done in response to the work.

Edited by HighCrate on Dec 27th 2018 at 10:07:06 AM

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#5: Jan 27th 2019 at 1:14:18 AM

Clock is set.

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#7: Jan 27th 2019 at 7:28:53 AM

Hooked, shutting off clock.

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#8: Jan 30th 2019 at 1:32:32 PM

I'm voting for moving humorous examples to JFF and legitimate examples to Trivia, the latter assuming there are enough examples to warrant their own entry. If not, move those to JFF too.

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#9: Feb 2nd 2019 at 8:24:43 AM

Well, looks safe to call. Commence the move.

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#10: Feb 2nd 2019 at 8:39:25 AM

Moved to Just for Fun, all the wicks deleted or changed to the new namespace. Easy-peasy.

Interestingly, this was already on the JFF index. It seems like people have already been assuming this was a JFF thing for a while.

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#11: Feb 2nd 2019 at 1:01:54 PM

Motion to close?

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#12: Feb 7th 2019 at 9:46:23 AM

Added a note on the discussion page: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=Main.IntellectualPropertyReligion#comment-116466

Then again, we might as well just Cut List the Main redirect.

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#13: Feb 20th 2019 at 9:59:35 AM

Go ahead with the cutlist if you haven't already, as the disambiguator can pick it up.

Other than that, we're done. Closing.

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"Move to trivia" and "move to Just For Fun" are not mutually exclusive.

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