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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#676: Feb 23rd 2022 at 4:34:23 AM

This means Kishin Asura also has a strong resemblance to Shinra, considering he's Death the Kid's very similar looking older brother.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#677: Feb 23rd 2022 at 4:35:26 AM

And Inca became the first witch unsurprisingly.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#678: Feb 23rd 2022 at 4:53:54 AM

If Inca did end up having a kid(s) with Shinra and those kid(s) became Witches too, then that would mean the Witches and Lord Death are related.

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#679: Feb 23rd 2022 at 1:10:48 PM

That's something that still confuses me.

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The reason the Witches are thought to cause such panic and destruction is because of the so called "Pull of Magic", which is born from their ability to use magic, and that it's considered a rarity for Witches to not succumb to it, hence why Kim was seen as an outcast since her magic was healing, and the cast was even worried that Angela could eventually succumb to it despite her being such an innocent little kid.
  • It's why when the alliance between the Witches and DWMA occurred to face the Kishin on the moon, Kid's first decision as the new Grim Reaper was to establish peace with the Witches, since he realized the instinct doesn't mean they are beings of destruction, and they can value order, so by establishing peace between the Witches and Humans, they wouldn't risk succumbing to the Pull of Magic anymore.


But Inca can't use magic, and it's made clear she isn't causing destruction because of some instinct or the like, but just because she was trying to pressure Shinra into giving her his sperm, and even then she was sure Shinra would be able to stop her chaos, making it more like a game of cat and mouse than anything malicious. And since I doubt Inca would settle for having kids with anyone other than Shinra, if she truly is the progenitor of the Witches, then the other Witches have to be Shinra's kids, yet the Witches don't possess the same "Hero Spirit" as Shinra, which was the entire reason Inca wanted Shinra to be the father, so that her child would inherit that spirit.

So why are the Witches affected by the Pull of Magic? How did they even learn magic? How could someone like any of the Gorgon sisters be descendants of Shinra?

Edited by RebelFalcon on Feb 23rd 2022 at 4:15:12 AM

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devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#680: Feb 23rd 2022 at 1:35:07 PM

I'm pretty sure the point is that witches aren't something genetic or anything. Just like a "hero" or a "devil" is a sort of calling, so now is a witch. Given that the strength of souls leads to power directly, this also means that magic has to be a form of soul power.

After all, "hope" and "despair" led to unique abilities, so logically other strong concepts can as well. And judging by Inca's attitude, it seems to be some sort of "madness of causing trouble" that leads to magic (And in return, magic can also lead to that).

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#681: Feb 23rd 2022 at 2:09:06 PM

Inca summoned the hydra. She uses magic.

And Inca does what she wants without a care if it kills people or not. We saw this even early on when she killed one of the guys she hanged out with. She’s just that callous and cruel while having fun.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Feb 23rd 2022 at 2:13:23 AM

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devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#682: Feb 24th 2022 at 1:13:05 AM

According to the Wiki, magic exists independent of witches, it's just that only witches can use it naturally.

So yea, Inca may be the first Witch, but that doesn't mean she's related to all of them necessarily, and the use of Magic came later. Just as Death only later becomes the embodiment of Madness of Order.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#683: Feb 24th 2022 at 1:30:02 AM

Because I dont' remember soul eater well anymore, where there additional references with Shinra's kids I didn't connect to Soul Eater? x'D

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#684: Feb 24th 2022 at 4:12:35 AM

The biggest theory is Makas mom is his descendant, and the other kid might be the not-Arthur’s ancestor.

The one from the solo chapter who wielded Excalibur.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Feb 24th 2022 at 5:12:12 AM

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TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#685: Feb 24th 2022 at 6:06:28 AM

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You're talking about "Hiro"?

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#686: Feb 24th 2022 at 6:07:43 AM

Yeah him

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