There's a bit of a problem with all adaptation tropes in that they require knowledge of another work to establish context. That places them firmly outside the realm of things that a person experiencing the work ex nihilo would notice or care about. For example, a person who watches Lost in Space (2018) without having watched the original series or the 1998 film would have no reason to know (or care) that the character Judy got a Race Lift.
I've argued in the past that adaptation tropes should be put in a separate category from objective, in-universe tropes, because the context is entirely external.
Edited by Fighteer on Oct 9th 2018 at 12:20:23 PM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Agreed. However, a shout-out or cameo can have an effect on the work itself and/or can draw from general cultural knowledge that doesn't require specific recollection of particular works. Moreover, they can be presented in a way that screams, "Hey, this is a shout-out," or, "Hey, you should recognize this person," noticeably shoving up against the fourth wall.
There's a fuzzy line here as to whether any particular example is visible enough within the context of the work to count as an in-universe trope, but I wouldn't really mind it all getting bundled off to trivia.
Edited by Fighteer on Oct 9th 2018 at 12:56:36 PM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"However, that's a wiki issue. Until that category is changed, I've seen no reason to say this trope specifically is trivia. Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Yeah, bring that up in a bigger thread. For now, adaptation tropes are not trivia.

As NNinja pointed out on the page discussion, why is this trivia? It's no more meta than the other Adaptation Modification tropes. As was also pointed out on the discussion page, the examples should be sorted according to the original adaptation, not the original medium.
Edited by rjd1922 on Oct 6th 2018 at 11:48:26 AM
Keet cleanup