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VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#326: Mar 2nd 2019 at 2:06:44 PM

PROZZZZZZZZZZZZDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD. Now give us an announcement he's the new gen:Lock head. (ok logically it'd probably be Weller's ex but let me have this)

Like, Weller says Caliban's not really a replacement of his personality, but the stuff Caliban's said is leading me to say "So that was a lie." It's totally Weller in a new body without the ability to run the plot along as he pleases anymore!

Ooooof, so Yaz realized she made a mistake in what government she threw behind after they arrested her parents? I'd presume the Union just imprisoning them in a perfectly functional detention center for rehabilitation where they get phone calls wouldn't have been enough to make her Heel–Face Turn...

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#327: Mar 2nd 2019 at 6:20:11 PM

Having not taken the time to wade through the lengthy discussions of the battle at the Anvil, did anyone else bring up yet that a lot of military equipment is specifically hardened to protect against EMP?
It's more than that, we explicitly see the ESD missiles in episode one not affecting the mechs (either the Vanguard's or the Union's), just the nanotech. The conversation died about when I pointed that out.

Regarding the episode, I'm not fond of the "Nemesis can track anyone who's uploaded and we can't stop him from doing so" thing, as it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. This stuff is technology, not magic. It should be relatively simple to revoke the stolen mindframe's access to the secure network. But we've more or less been expecting something like that, so it's more of an annoyance to have it confirmed than anything else.

The 10-second character introductions feels like we should have gotten them in episode two — Cammie's in particular I would have felt better about her character if they'd just told us about it up front instead of burying it at the end of the season. Nothing too surprising about the rest, though Yaz's gave us our first actual information about the Union's inner workings. Her parents were arrested for being "intellectuals", which certainly doesn't speak well of the Union.

Season finale is shaping up to be boss battle against Nemesis, which has the potential to be interesting, at least. We'll see how they handle it and set things up for season two.

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#328: Mar 2nd 2019 at 6:24:24 PM

Well, finally saw the episode. I've just reacted as I watched the episode, so dumped it behind a folder, just in case people want to skip it.

    General thoughts 
  • It's funny, but I was just thinking we were missing a Kazu thumb nail, and here he is... this week's thumb nail.
  • Hello. We have two guitar players on the team?
  • Ah, that's why. She's picked up some of Kazu's skills from when they did the mindshare. Well, Cammie did pick up some Russian when she mind-shared with Val.
  • Meta-minded. Is that what we're calling it now?
  • Anyone getting the feeling that Kazu is hiding something?
  • Valentina's not wrong. There's a trope for that. Evil Only Has to Win Once.
  • Okay, Nemesis sounds like he's had a really crappy existence: he can't cry, he can't sleep and he can't dream. Sci-fi likes doing terrible things to people who can't sleep or dream. Apparently permanently gen:LOCKED pilots do not dream of electric sheep.
  • Yeah, Nemesis is tapped into the grid, kid. We kinda figured that one out two episodes ago when he rambled on about your birthday.
  • Of course, the obvious conclusion from Nemesis spying on them through the GL Network is that they'll be able to track Nemesis through the same. Well, Chase will, at the very least.
  • Come on, people. You've got Caliban right there. He's bound to have the doc's brain on him.
  • Wait, did Omega Protocol just trigger because Chase said 'Dr. Weller is dead'?
  • Yes, I guess that's what triggered Caliban. Like the code-phrase, however.
  • Okay, so Caliban only has a bit of Weller's brain rather than the whole of it. And... he's the gen:LOCK repository.
  • Chase didn't really show any sign of being aware of Migas leaning into him to get the embrace right, but he clearly detected Yaz trying to hold his hand.
  • Okay, so they were in Prototype Phase, which makes sense given how few people were compatible and the fact he had to give them all an idealised Holon frame instead of a customised one. Phase Two: Manufacturing and Phase Three: R&D at the Rogue Technology, Aeronautics and Space Administration.
    • Pause for a moment. Rogue?
    • Pause for a second moment. Space?
    • 'Aeronaturis and Space Administration' is straight out of NASA, so the organisation obviously has some relationship to that, but 'National' has been replaced by 'Rogue' and 'Techology'. So did this organisation emerge from a rogue element of NASA or did NASA have to go rogue?
    • So, where exactly is the space programme in 2072? Do we have colonies on the moon yet? Mars? We've definitely got satellite technology because that's been mentioned in a couple of episodes, including this one. Anyway, let's keep going.
  • And... it's not a sci-fi until someone's joked about astronaut ice-cream.
  • Oh, dear god. Caliban is going to be carte blanche for Rooster Teeth to use every terrible pun that enters their heads, isn't it?
  • 'Never heard of a base out there'? Okay, that's usually sci-fi for 'Area 51'. So... the reason RTASA has 'rogue' in the name is because it arose out of Area 51?
  • Yeah, okay: Experimented? Brainwashed? Damaged? Wiped? And aimed what was left back at them? Let's forget about what that means for Nemesis right now (nothing good)... she says 'knowing them...'. So, exactly who did Yaz know who was treated that way and turned back on her? Because, let's face it, she all but states she's speaking from personal experience there.
  • Okay, between all the warnings in various episodes, and Nemesis as a working example, it's obvious someone in the team is eventually going to have to exceed uptime.
  • This wouldn't be the first episode where I've wondered if Yaz has a thing for Chase.
  • Okay, I absolutely knew Weller was going to have an ex-wife.
  • Yeah, I'm not surprised to see Henry again. It was pretty obvious from the fact his name was brought up on the Colonel's screen, along with some information about him. Full name: Heng Li "Henry" Wu. Position: Lead Engineer, R- (we didn't see the rest, but we can now guess it was RTASA). Supervisor: Dr. Fatima Jha. We didn't quite get to see what his previous assignment was, so that's probably a plot point, but we did see both Weller and Marin react to his information with concern. And then he gets all excited about the Holon technology and has been given the typical Rooster Teeth sense of humour. So, he's a character that's going to stick around.
  • Okay, just how off the grid is RTASA if they haven't heard about the Anvil? Then again, earlier in the episode, it was made clear that the GL Team has tried to get off the grid to hide from the Union. So we don't actually know for certain what the state of the Anvil really is. We certainly don't know for certain who survived and who died from the Anvil.
  • RTASA's logo definitely looks like a variation on NASA's logo. The acronym lettering definitely looks like the worm, and the white outer edging of the logo seems to be influenced in shape by the shadow on the yellow planet of the NASA seal.
  • And Dr. Jha was listed two episodes ago as Henry's supervisor. Anyone want to guess she's the ex-wife?
  • Yeah, she's the ex-wife.
  • Five? Okay, so the sixth Holon isn't with them. Now, it depends on what happened to the Anvil as to what the fate of the sixth Holon is. There's a good chance it's in the hands of the Union (and would become a new 'body' for Nemesis) or Leon would be pushed into unsafe use of it. Even if the Anvil has fallen to the Union, we still don't know how many of the characters from the Anvil survived.
  • Why am I getting bad vibes about Holcroft from the second he's first mentioned?
  • Okay, background screen behind Holcroft is has information on the progress of 'colony ships'. Several of them given that there are different designations. And, oh look, each designation is coloured with the same colours as our GL team:
    • Colony Ship Build Prog - Des.G-14 (green)
    • Colony Ship Build Prog - Des.H-02 (red)
    • Colony Ship Build Prog - Des.H-19 (yellow)
    • Colony Ship Build Prog - Des.Q-05 (purple)
    • Colony Ship Build Prog - Des.M-12 (cyan)
  • Oooh, a tiny bit of background on the characters.
    • Cammie: Scottish hactivist turned white-hat cybersecurity expert for the Polity after going just a bit too far. The background screen indicates she's 5'1.
    • Kazu: Japanese SDF washout. That's literally all Holcroft says about him. I definitely think Kazu's got a big secret. They keep downplaying him, making a joke of him but he was busted down to cook... and Steven Seagal taught us to never underestimate the soldier that's busted down to cook. Oh, and his info indicates he's 6'2.
    • Valentina: former Russian advanced recon and stealth ops, fell in with Ukrainian Resistance due to... 'societal pressures'. Retired but pressed into service again. I couldn't catch Valentina's height but apparently they have a middle name that begins P.
    • Yaz: ex-Union, responsible for outing her parents as 'intellectuals', which got them 'taken' by the Union. Sought asylum with the Polity after learning this. I wonder what 'intellectuals' means in this instance? I wonder if this was the vibe I was getting when she talked about what might have happened to Nemesis, where it felt like she had personal experience of the Union stripping away the essence of who a person was, brainwashing them, and then sending after the people who'd care the most. I notice that Holcroft didn't say the Union actually killed Yaz's parents. I also didn't get her height. It's a nice touch that it's Valentina that gives Yaz a comforting squeeze, considering their argument about the Union.
  • Chase, nothing new on him: we knew his father was dead, he says Chase's mother and sister 'were also lost'. Of course, we've seen the signs that they're still alive. And Holcroft knows about Nemesis.
  • Not a fan of the 'O Great and Powerful Oz' crack. It was a bit too clunky for the moment.
  • Yeah, I'm really not getting a good vibe from this guy. How the hell does he know what Nemesis looks like to have a hologram of the current model?
  • Holcroft claims the Union are thieves who are incapable of innovating on their own. Yet the Smoke seems to be a Union thing. Does the Polity even use nanotech? We're still not a hundred percent certain on that. Now that we're dealing with a version of NASA and Colony Ships have been introduced as a concept (in GL colours no less), I'm wondering how space fits into this. Hopefully the Union doesn't have some kind of alien mind at the heart of it, but you never know given the animal-themed equipment, the drone-like use of the soldiers, taking over infrastructure rather than destroying it. (Hell, perhaps the Polity does, too.)
  • If you want to get specific, Cammie, it can locate you because of the GL network connection which means you can locate it, too.
  • I like how Cammie pulls the 'apprentice' story to hide the fact they're walking around with the gen:LOCK repository, but Holcroft's response just doesn't seem sincere.
  • Yeah, so it looks like Holcroft is going to use the GL team to clean up his mess (destroy the Holon tech that's in the Union's hands — namely, Nemesis) but he's definitely not promising to help them once they've finished being useful to him.
    • Look, I always suspected there was an ex-wife in Weller's past because I was half expecting her to be the Union scientist maintaining Nemesis. Now we know that Jha is the ex-wife, we don't have a Union-collaborator vibe from her (which would make it a nice twist if that was the case). However, Holcroft makes my skin crawl. Jha assumed that Weller and Holcroft maintained contact over the GL technology, so she's not up-to-date on their relationship, but seems to trust Holcroft regardless. She wasn't up-to-date on the project either. We know the Union had somehow infiltrated the ESU, and I was getting signs that there was some kind of infiltration of the Anvil (whether through the ESU being there or because there was infiltration on the colonel's side as well). I'm not saying I think Holcroft is Union, specifically, but I won't be surprised if he's trying to profit from both sides and is therefore working for both sides to benefit himself.
  • And now we have the upgrades from the opening credits.
  • Was that the 'it me' meme? This girl is pop culture references gone wild.
  • And in the end credits, the only Holon on display is Yaz's. I wonder if that means she'll be one of the main features of the series finale?

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#329: Mar 2nd 2019 at 6:36:24 PM

It's more than that, we explicitly see the ESD missiles in episode one not affecting the mechs (either the Vanguard's or the Union's), just the nanotech. The conversation died about when I pointed that out.

That, or some of us have only just got around to reading your post. For the record, I never believed the mechs were affected the pulse, which is why I never used them as part of my position. You may have discovered some of this for the first time upon rewatching the episode, but I rewatched the episode before I made my post, so my position hasn't changed.

Regarding the episode, I'm not fond of the "Nemesis can track anyone who's uploaded and we can't stop him from doing so" thing, as it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. This stuff is technology, not magic. It should be relatively simple to revoke the stolen mindframe's access to the secure network. But we've more or less been expecting something like that, so it's more of an annoyance to have it confirmed than anything else.

Cammie seemed to think it was possible to exclude him. Her concerns appeared to rest around damaging the point of how Mindshare is designed to function (hence the apparent lack of internal firewalls between the Holon cyberminds). Her comments about needing the code seems to be an implication that she'll eventually rewrite the code to enable them to keep meta-minding while excluding anyone who shouldn't be there. The implication that she'll end up improving Weller's code has been there from the moment she first complained about not having had a chance to QC the code before uploading for the first time.

Mindshare was only a theoretical possibility until the recruits started training together, so it had never been tested at that point. Given that the whole thing is still in prototype stage, there's going to be a lot about the gen:LOCK technology that needs improving. Weller did point out that it had been pushed into service too soon.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Mar 2nd 2019 at 2:48:11 PM

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TwinBird Dunkies addict from Eastern Mass Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Dunkies addict
#330: Mar 2nd 2019 at 6:41:48 PM

...is Kazu calling Cammie "omae"?

If they run out of money for Tennant, they can always give Caliban to Barb.

What's this about "outed as intellectuals"? Are we dealing with a modern Qin?

I understand why Cammie's is so short, but is there a reason Val/entina's is so skinny?

Edited by TwinBird on Mar 2nd 2019 at 7:03:12 AM

My posts make considerably more sense read in the voice of John Ratzenberger.
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#331: Mar 2nd 2019 at 6:49:49 PM

My guess is that it's a play on Val/entina commenting that they'd been dreaming of robotic bodies since long before they were drafted into the gen:LOCK programme (although the lack of 'bits' is more in line with Yaz's dream [lol]). It's more person-shaped and streamlined than the others. Given that Val/entina has playing the recon role, being streamlined does make sense.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Mar 2nd 2019 at 2:51:18 PM

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ShirowShirow Dinosaur Hunter from Land of Maple Syrup (Old as dirt)
Dinosaur Hunter
#332: Mar 2nd 2019 at 6:52:53 PM

Val/entina's mecha is just sporting less armor than everyone else's. Cammie's was the only one to undergo changes to the core frame.

Edited by ShirowShirow on Mar 2nd 2019 at 9:53:27 AM

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Shaoken (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#333: Mar 2nd 2019 at 8:56:35 PM

Regarding the episode, I'm not fond of the "Nemesis can track anyone who's uploaded and we can't stop him from doing so" thing, as it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. This stuff is technology, not magic. It should be relatively simple to revoke the stolen mindframe's access to the secure network.

To do that would at least require Sysadmin credentials, which most likely is restricted to Doctor Weller and potentially one or two other people. And as Cammie identified locking someone out is completely against what the system is designed to facilitate so it is probably not a simple fix.

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#334: Mar 2nd 2019 at 11:17:43 PM

[up][up][up][up]Ain't having a problem with "intellectuals" just a pre-requisite for authoritarianism in general?

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#335: Mar 2nd 2019 at 11:41:04 PM

[up] The fact that the Union has a decisive technological edge over the Polity suggests the hostility is directed more at people in the social sciences than the hard sciences.

@Wyldchyld: The fact that Holcroft is an "investor" rather than an official seems to suggests RTASA and the ESU are private companies. Perhaps Holcroft's derision for the Union being "thieving" is due to them having ideological roots in communism, making them "parasites" in the eyes of a Silicon Valley techbro, because let's face it, that's what he is.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Mar 2nd 2019 at 2:49:39 PM

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
#336: Mar 3rd 2019 at 3:14:34 AM

It's possible that the Union aren't more advanced than the Polity - they're not using new technologies, they just don't bother to factor in the safety, sanity, and bodily integrity of any humans involved and weaponise literally everything.

What's precedent ever done for us?
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#337: Mar 3rd 2019 at 6:49:05 AM

@Wyldchyld: The fact that Holcroft is an "investor" rather than an official seems to suggests RTASA and the ESU are private companies.

NASA receives billions in private investment every year. It might be less than the public funding it receives, but the NASA budget has two main 'sources': public sources ('funding') and private sources ('investment'). NASA's biggest investor wouldn't be the federal government because that's their public funding provider. Their biggest investor would be... I'd have to look it up, but I'm sure they've got a 'biggest investor' list somewhere, they also contract out to private/commercial space companies.

ESU has been sounding from the start like a private research project that has been commandeered by the military, but Holcroft's existence tells us very little right now about RTASA's structure (just as the use of the word 'rogue' in the title doesn't tell us much). For now, it's enough for us to eyeball it and file it away for further use.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Mar 3rd 2019 at 3:05:08 PM

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#338: Mar 3rd 2019 at 7:17:34 AM

To do that would at least require Sysadmin credentials, which most likely is restricted to Doctor Weller and potentially one or two other people. And as Cammie identified locking someone out is completely against what the system is designed to facilitate so it is probably not a simple fix.
Requiring admin rights is a fair point, but Cammie didn't say "I'd need root access", she said "I'd have to completely rewrite some of the source code". The gen:lock system is a computer network, not a psychic link — to lock someone out of the network, all you'd need is to identify their IP or MAC address (or whatever equivalent they're using) and blacklist it. Honestly, the fact that they didn't take steps to do that as soon as Chase Prime went missing (or notice that Chase's signal was being broadcast from two separate locations in the system whenever Nemesis showed up) is pretty silly by itself, but I can forgive it. The idea that they can't lock Nemesis out of the system even after they've identified the fact that he's using it to eavesdrop on them without modifying the system at the code level is just another extra layer of silly on top.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#339: Mar 3rd 2019 at 8:43:36 AM

[up][up] RTASA's name may just be an in joke, RT=Rooster Teeth, and you're right having a major private investor isn't really a blow to the idea that RTASA is a rebranded NASA, but Holcroft gives off the vibe of a Silicon Valley venture capitalist/entrepreneur, so it might also be a stand in for SpaceX. Perhaps at some point NASA ended up being privatized and the new owner re-branded it, only for the war to result in more or less all private researchers being commandeered for the war effort?

[up] While I get the frustration, as a biology PhD student I've learned to pretty much turn off my analytical brain as far as actual technical aspects relating to biology in non-hard sci-fi works goes, and it's probably best if you do the same for your own area of expertise.


But as far as the lack of measures taken after Chase's capture, we can't say that the Vanguard didn't try to prevent something like this from happening, only for the Union's cybersecurity experts to find a workaround that allowed them to get Nemesis on the network while concealing his presence from the Vanguard. It is rather silly that they aren't able to lock him out once they realize he's there though, but once again I feel like you're expecting too much from people who don't have technical backgrounds.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Mar 3rd 2019 at 11:55:38 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#340: Mar 3rd 2019 at 9:05:11 AM

[up]The implication, at least from what I gathered, is that Dr. Weller, if he was still around, could easily make a patch for the technology to lock out Nemesis. But with him among the dearly departed before he regenerates into a woman this season, you have people really unfamiliar with the technology unsure of how to modify it. It’s the difference between fixing your home PC and a server for a Fortune 500, only with the added worry of Mind Rape.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#341: Mar 3rd 2019 at 1:13:59 PM

It's worth bearing in mind that Nemesis isn't an outsider hacking into the network. He's as much inside the network by default as the other Holon pilots. He was uploaded to the same Cyberbrain mainframe as the other Holon pilots. So, he's no more networking in from the outside than the GL Team are. He's more like a ghost in the machine.

We could ask why Weller didn't automatically bounce him from the system but the man has form for not doing things like that. Look at what happened when Cammie rewrote herself during training. He could have reset her the second she did it, and very nearly did. Then he decided to sit back and see what happened next. He didn't even intervene when she was in meltdown and having to be restrained by multiple Holons. He kept watching until Leon yelled at him. Even then he hesitated a moment before finally resetting her.

Given Weller and Chase's argument about Nemesis, I think Weller could have bounced Nemesis from the mainframe and locked him out for good. That he didn't isn't an oversight. He knew the lost Holon would come back one day, and he wanted to see what would happen when it did. Even when it did come back, he didn't rush to stop it, he all but admitted to Chase that he was analysing what was unfolding.

It frankly should have occurred to Cammie in Episode 5 that Nemesis was on the same mainframe as them, given what she heard it say. In Episode 7, she finally realised it was inside the same mainframe as them but she should have immediately realised that they should be able to track it the same way it can track them (that they were in no fit state to do that is a different issue, but it should have occurred to her that they could if they finally got into a better situation). This point is something I suspect Weller would have already thought of and actually be sitting back to analyse rather than jumping to stop.

Weller's got a reckless side to him, we saw that even in the promotional trailers, where he was willing to stay on a hacked line with the Union bearing down on him, to keep negotiating with Marin. We also haven't seen what (if any) kind of precautions he's taken in light of Sinclair. Given that we now know that he already knew the Union had Chase and a Holon, he should have been much more cautious about letting Sinclair hook up to the mainframe from inside the ESU, but he took the risk anyway.

After all, it doesn't make any sense that the Union wouldn't know about the compatibility requirements of the Holon technology. It didn't even make much sense in Episode 2, given what we knew from the trailers and first two episodes but, now we know about the Chase incident, it makes even less sense.

Unless Sinclair was trying to do something other than steal a physical Holon, that is.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Mar 3rd 2019 at 9:17:34 AM

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#342: Mar 4th 2019 at 7:31:21 AM

I like the new designs for the most part but Chase's looks like his mecha barely changed at all.

Edited by windleopard on Mar 5th 2019 at 1:13:11 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#343: Mar 4th 2019 at 9:32:46 AM

Well of course, he's the main character.

His mech has to remain the simplest of them all. tongue

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VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#344: Mar 4th 2019 at 11:57:31 AM

Putting too much shit on increases air resistance

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#345: Mar 4th 2019 at 3:29:53 PM

Considering the fact that Union!Chase was able to broadcast a Vanguard ID, wouldn't it be the same for whatever security protocols run on the mindframe network? It is still essentially Chase, after all. The most reliable way to ID someone in the mindframe network would be to have some sort of hash based off your individual brain patterns, with enough leeway because brain patterns aren't a fixed thing. So Union!Chase would presumably be still similar enough to our Chase that he'd be able to access the network. The only way to boot him off would be to block our Chase as well or to rewrite the network entirely for a different security protocol.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#346: Mar 4th 2019 at 4:05:29 PM

It's pretty easy to lock specific hardware out of a network, even if it's trying to log in with valid credentials. If the holon that the Union stole was using mindframe #1 and the backup unit was mindframe #2, then you'd just set the network to automatically reject (or at least flag) any login attempts from mindframe #1, regardless of who was attempting to login from it and whether or not their credentials read as legit or not.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#347: Mar 4th 2019 at 5:48:51 PM

[up] Once again, don't expect technical accuracy out of hard science fiction, and just turn your brain off when stuff relevant to your area of expertise comes up, otherwise it becomes pretty much impossible to enjoy sci fi.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Mar 4th 2019 at 8:49:20 AM

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#348: Mar 4th 2019 at 6:35:26 PM

In a word: no. I don't think "you can lock a computer out of a computer network" is exactly highly technical knowledge that only computer science experts are aware of. You may be willing to give it a pass on this. I'm not. YMMV in action.

It's not like I'm making a huge deal out of this and declaring the show ruined forever over it. Even in the post where I made the point to begin with, I said it was more of an annoyance than a serious problem. But "it's not a big deal" doesn't mean "it's fine and I don't have a problem with it".

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#349: Mar 4th 2019 at 6:44:21 PM

I feel like it’s a bit more complicated than restricting access, but it, like many things, feels under explained. Ah well.

Slater130 Since: Jun, 2013
#350: Mar 4th 2019 at 6:46:51 PM

GL is infact much harder scifi then normal for the genre.

The very basis of Compatability being tied to how much neuroplasticty a person has, and being able to age out because as people age they lose it is dead accurate.


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