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SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#26: Oct 14th 2018 at 11:41:03 AM

Clock is set.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#27: Oct 14th 2018 at 1:30:28 PM

So, options that have been discussed:

  1. Cut Delicious Fruit Pies
  2. Move Delicious Fruit Pies to the Stock Parodies list
  3. Create Advertising.Hostess Fruit Pies to describe the campaign and list Shout Outs and specific parodies.
  4. List all examples on a separate Comics/ page for Enforced Plug.
  5. Do nothing.

Have I missed any?

These aren't all either/or choices. For example, the existing page contains both Shout Outs to this specific campaign (which 3 takes care of) and examples of similar ones (which 4 does).

Edited by johnnye on Oct 14th 2018 at 2:01:03 PM

GastonRabbit Cake's just a shot away. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
#28: Oct 14th 2018 at 3:59:32 PM

[up]I think you meant Advertising.Hostess Fruit Pies in option 3, not Snack Cakes. Anyway, 2 and 3 are the options I'm going with.

Edit: I previously accidentally put the wrong option number in this post.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 15th 2018 at 5:43:02 AM

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#29: Oct 14th 2018 at 4:35:21 PM

[tup] option 5

Edited by eroock on Oct 14th 2018 at 1:35:38 PM

naturalironist from The Information Superhighway Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#31: Oct 14th 2018 at 6:10:12 PM

[up][up]Cheers. Also added a note that for some of these, we can combine more than one.

Personally I'm of the opinion that the main problem with this page is that it's not clear if it's a trope with a very specific Trope Codifier or a direct Shout-Out that covers some very vague references (is "a guy stops to eat some Brand X hamburgers" really a reference to ads for pastries?)

But certainly if we keep the page Delicious Fruit Pies, it should be in the Stock Parodies index.

bitemytail from Arizona Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#33: Oct 14th 2018 at 8:32:20 PM

1 & 3 I feel.

Edit: [down] I would be ok with 2 & 3 as well.

Edited by bitemytail on Oct 15th 2018 at 8:01:07 AM

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#35: Oct 14th 2018 at 10:43:27 PM

Options 1 and 3 [tup] (Although I still don't feel that listing Shout Outs is necessary. We don't list them on Advertising.The Burger King).

There's also Option 6: Move non-Shout-Out examples to either Enforced Plug (e.g. the Discworld example) or Bribed With Food (e.g. the Darker than Black example). I support this, as well. [tup]

Edited by Primis on Oct 14th 2018 at 10:48:21 AM

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#36: Oct 14th 2018 at 11:05:27 PM

I'm very much against 1. This does belong on the Stock Parodies page, but there are tropes on that page that have fewer examples and crosswicks, and I don't want the trend to go toward cutting them, because I do think they're valid if somewhat niche tropes.

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#37: Oct 15th 2018 at 6:35:21 AM

I would consider a trope like Parody Product Placement to cover examples like this. It has the advantage of being alliterative, for people who like to keep score.

Edited by Fighteer on Oct 15th 2018 at 9:35:34 AM

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GastonRabbit Cake's just a shot away. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Cake's just a shot away. (he/him)
johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#39: Oct 17th 2018 at 5:39:07 AM

[up][up]That's a good idea. Between that and creating an Advertising/ page to describe the original campaign I'd say that covers the bases.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#40: Oct 20th 2018 at 9:20:21 PM

I'm surprised Parody Product Placement isn't a trope already. Also, the alliteration for that name isn't at all forced, which is neat.

I'm good with making that and doing options 2 and 3.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#41: Oct 27th 2018 at 4:57:38 AM

Only noticed Enforced Plug now. Not sure now if I prefer option 4 or 5.

Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#43: Dec 4th 2018 at 11:59:15 PM

Extending clock.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#44: Dec 5th 2018 at 1:06:11 PM

That's a good idea. Between [Parody Product Placement] and creating an Advertising/ page to describe the original campaign I'd say that covers the bases.
I'm in favour of these two actions as well, but would like to suggest Product Placement Parody, because that would show up after Product Placement alphabetically.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
naturalironist from The Information Superhighway Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#45: Dec 5th 2018 at 1:10:43 PM

[up] Agreed. Would we move parodies of Enforced Plug to the new trope as well?

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Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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Lost in Space
#47: Dec 20th 2018 at 6:10:51 AM

Seems to be a lot of agreement on Product Placement Parody. Time for a vote or do we proceed to TLP the new article?

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 20th 2018 at 9:11:09 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
bitemytail from Arizona Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#48: Dec 20th 2018 at 6:27:45 AM

Given crowners are broken, let's just make the TLP draft.

Health sure is versatile. It's possible to be both light-headed and dim-witted. At the same time, no less.
Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
#49: Dec 20th 2018 at 2:19:14 PM

Will a work page be created for the ad campaign?

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Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#50: Jan 12th 2019 at 12:06:37 PM

I made a Page Action Crowner, since they seem to be working again, more or less.

PageAction: DeliciousFruitPies
12th Jan '19 11:56:57 AM

Crown Description:

What would be the best way to fix the page?

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