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Given that there\'s plausible reason to believe that a recent (as of this post anyway) leak could be legit, it\'s probably a good time to create a new thread for discussing Smash Ultimate leaks and spoilers.
Go nuts, guys!
Well, I guess there we go then.
This is the leak image in question, by the way.◊
I'm still of the mindset that it's fake. Although it does have valid ideas that are widely held and, frankly, likely. However, I still highly doubt this is a leak, just a dude and his guesses. The artwork is baffling though. Then again, I've seen some really detailed fanart out there so they may be commissions made just for the sake of a fake leak
I don't quite get what makes this leak so special compared to the others, but I'm down for a thread like this nevertheless.
My perspective, as posted in the main Smash Bros. thread: I don't see why a leaker wouldn't just post the entire roster screen. Even ignoring the "mystery character" (which is also something that makes leaks look faker IMO), it would be a lot simpler to just post a shot of the whole roster and MS Paint circle the newcomers, instead of taking apparently isolated snapshots of individual newcomer icons.
Who are the people on the top row supposed to be? Also, that.
Edited by TheAirman on Aug 29th 2018 at 11:21:14 AM
Why does this thread exist for some random leak when no other leaks have warranted this? IMO, there shouldn't be a spoiler thread for just POSSIBLY real leaks. Because especially with Smash, people are willing to believe anything and everything.
I'm still taking this with a grain of salt myself, personally. Is it just me or do Shadow and Isabelle not even look detailed all that well in their pictures anyway? We know that Ultimate is going for some serious detail (even if it's not Brawl level).
The fact that it's cropped out icons instead of just a screenshot makes me think it's fake. That'd be a bunch of extra work that'd only make it look more fake. Plus the "oh, there's another newcomer I'm not telling you about" thing
It's the Isaac art in particular that really stumps me. It's really high quality, much higher quality than Golden Sun art usually is, it's in a completely different style from all Golden Sun art I've ever seen before (including his previous appearance as an Assist Trophy) and the hair color is wrong, indicating that it's not a pre-existing piece of fanart that was repurposed and it's an alternate color if real.
If this is a fake, that Isaac art was created solely for the purpose of this fake, and that's an impressive amount of effort, given how high-quality it is.
After we had the following fake in the Sm4sh days? I will put no amount of effort past fake leakers. They can and will make original art to make their stuff seem legit.
It might just be a talented artist. Not to downplay how much effort it would take to make something like this, but one of the first things people do with image leaks is reverse image search it too look for close matches. Using original art instead of a preexisting render extends that 15 minutes of fame.
Recall the Palutena "leak" from pre-Smash 4, which people believed because Palutena's model was a new one, not the one from Uprising. It was only disproved when Palutena's reveal trailer debuted, in which Palutena had a different model from the one in the leak.
First rule of fake Smash leaks: There is no such thing as "Too good to be fake".
Just because you haven't seen it before doesn't mean it's new. And fanartists don't always do a good job of following official colours
And it's super easy to deliberately make your fanart have different colors, to make people think "but why would a faker get the colors wrong? They must have reference pictures. Maybe it's an alternate color!"
Uh, none of the pics there really strike me as very convincing to be perfectly honest.
Edited by edvedd on Aug 29th 2018 at 9:52:48 AM
Also, Agnes strikes me as really unlikely? For one, I'm pretty certain Square Enix own her. And she's not the main character (or particularly liked, from what I've seen). In a game where all the characters play basically the same
And also, I could swear I've seen that Agnes picture somewhere before. Something about it feels familiar.
Like, people have done Agnes fakes before so maybe I'm remembering a previous fake wrongly, but.
Edited by edvedd on Aug 29th 2018 at 9:52:39 AM
Tiz is more of a supporting protagonist and Agnes is in all of the promo artwork so I can at least buy her getting in over him. That's about all I can buy, though.
It's bullshit and I don't believe it.
That's my take on it.
Also, who the heck is the guy top right?
Edit: Oh, it's Ken.
Edited by edvedd on Aug 29th 2018 at 9:59:21 AM
FWIW, the collective power of all the internet's sleuths has not found a good match to any of those renders, last I checked.
Looks like Ken Masters from Street Fighter
Well, it's good art either way. I will say that I don't see anything conclusively disproving the leak. I think it's partially because I really want it to be legit because Isaac is the character I want most in Smash and the art in question does a really good job of updating his design.
If nothing else we've got a thread to bug zap all these stupid "leaks".
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