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Chaosjunction Since: Feb, 2010
#1226: Jun 17th 2021 at 2:02:15 PM

Hmm, I'm looking at the scan of Chapter 32 and I don't see Mahito mentioning anything about Sakuna using Reverse Cursed Technique or anything like that.

Edit: I checked the raw myself, apparently the scan I was reading didn't put that part in.

Edited by Chaosjunction on Jun 17th 2021 at 4:08:55 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#1227: Jun 17th 2021 at 2:06:50 PM

Scans sometime leave out dialogue. But in the RAW that dialogue is definitely there.

If it being missing is why you have a misconception about what he was thinking, okay, but you look this up yourself.

The point stands: Mahito was trying to think of a way a binding vow with Sukuna could work, but dismisses it because he figures Sukuna would refuse no matter what. His thought process, in the moment, was not about how he should have just killed Yuji from the beginning.

For that matter, if he's actually thinking what you're saying he is, bringing up Junpei at all doesn't make sense.

Edited by LSBK on Jun 17th 2021 at 4:09:10 AM

Chaosjunction Since: Feb, 2010
#1228: Jun 17th 2021 at 2:08:33 PM

[up]

Fair enough. I still think my main idea, that Mahito was always looking to kill Yuji and took the chance once it became available is the best way to explain his behaviour.

indigoJay from The Astral Plane Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#1229: Jun 17th 2021 at 2:10:07 PM

[up] Chapter 25 is where Mahito explains to Geto that his plan is to force Yuji into a vow with Sukuna. Chapter 28 is where he explains that his backup plan is to make Yuji mad enough to call on Sukuna to kill him. The whole "natural enemy" idea starts there as well — Mahito's plan fails because Yuji is able to harm Mahito without Sukuna's help. Chapter 31 is where Mahito talks about wanting to physically kill Yuji but being unable, which is where he starts fantasizing about "killing his soul" as a substitute.

[up][up] Mahito doesn't know for sure that Sukuna will refuse any pact. He learns that Yuji will. Mahito's backup plan didn't account for Yuji attempting to attack on his own instead of contracting Sukuna to do it for him.

Edited by indigoJay on Jun 17th 2021 at 5:12:42 AM

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#1230: Jun 17th 2021 at 2:16:33 PM

[up]Mahito has already seen Yuji try and make a pact, and Sukuna refuse, though. Yuji flat out said he'd let Sukuna do anything if he fixes Junepi.

He thinks Sukuna would have been unable to fix Junpei's soul, which is why he figures it might have been better to just hurt him normally. But he figures Sukuna would probably still refuse to help Junpei in that situation too, just due to his personality. Or at least, I think that's the most likely meaning behind his thoughts, but I guess he could have meant something different.

Edited by LSBK on Jun 17th 2021 at 4:18:59 AM

indigoJay from The Astral Plane Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#1231: Jun 17th 2021 at 2:20:04 PM

[up] True, but he assumes that Sukuna only refused because he was incapable of following through on that specific promise. I guess you're also right that Mahito thinks Sukuna is just like that, but he still keeps trying to anger Yuji enough to force him into a "kill Mahito" pact with Sukuna. He only gives up once Yuji repeatedly tells Mahito that he's going to kill him himself and won't ask to switch out.

Edited by indigoJay on Jun 17th 2021 at 5:22:04 AM

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#1232: Jun 17th 2021 at 2:21:39 PM

Yeah, but that's what I'm saying - he's thinking that if had just hurt Junpei normally, Sukuna would have been able to fix him with Reversed Cursed Techniques, and thus the pact would have been possible.

But he's also interacted with Sukuna personally, and figures that even if he made it so it was possible for Sukuna to fix Junpei, he'd still refuse due to his personality.

Edited by LSBK on Jun 17th 2021 at 4:23:16 AM

indigoJay from The Astral Plane Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#1233: Jun 17th 2021 at 2:23:16 PM

[up] "Sukuna would always refuse to heal Junpei" is not the same as "Sukuna would refuse any pact." Mahito assumes that Sukuna would accept a deal to kill or harm him.

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#1234: Jun 17th 2021 at 2:24:23 PM

I'm not sure how we got there, but I don't think we're really disagreeing on anything super important right now.

indigoJay from The Astral Plane Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#1235: Jun 17th 2021 at 2:25:46 PM

Yeah, you're right, it's a technicality.

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#1236: Jun 17th 2021 at 2:31:05 PM

On that front, I'm curious how much Sukuna does or doesn't matter for Kenjaku's plans. Because it feels like he's mostly irrelevant or a matter of convenience to him, but there are other things that give the impression he's expecting more.

I'm curious if Sukuna's own plans will throw a wrench into Kenjaku's.

Edited by LSBK on Jun 17th 2021 at 4:31:42 AM

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#1237: Jun 17th 2021 at 3:04:27 PM

On another topic, did anyone else find the interaction between Maki and her mom really unclear? The framing and the mom's dialogue makes it seem like Maki just walked up and killed her, but then apparently she just slit her throat shallowly enough for the mom to live for a while, decide (and know where to go) to finish off the wounded Naoya, and say she was happy she gave birth to the twins (presumably because they brought about the downfall of the clan)? It's kind of a weird sequence of events.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#1238: Jun 17th 2021 at 3:25:49 PM

From the discussion thread that seems to be the general reaction. This mini arc was very weird honestly

I absolutely cannot help but adore handsome 2D boys
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#1239: Jun 17th 2021 at 3:25:59 PM

Bodies are both more fragile and sturdier than you expect.

She probably thought she did enough to kill her instantly, but her moms body being lucky enough to survive it, at least for a little longer, isn’t unfeasible.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#1240: Jun 17th 2021 at 3:59:27 PM

Regarding the rest of the Gojo family, the author has apparently already commented on that. They exist, and there are others who have the Limitless, but you need the Six Eyes to be able to master it, and Gojo is the only one with both (and apparently is the first one in a hundred years with both).

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#1241: Jun 17th 2021 at 4:09:03 PM

Considering this chapter only has 9 pages I think it was most likely affected by Akutami’s illness.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1242: Jul 14th 2021 at 8:37:20 PM

So can I talk about the anime here? Dunno if it has its own thread.

I watched this for my GF. Other than MHA it's the only recent anime I've watched.

I thought it was...Okay. It is one of those wait and see series. I am eager to see where things go, and to learn more backstory for some events and characters, but things right now are kinda meh. I don't really care for any of the main heroes. The Exchange made me interested in Maki and Mechamaru but I doubt the latter is going anywhere.

Yuji is an Idiot Hero and I hate those. Megumi is Reserved Man but without any depth that I know of that makes being reserved intriguing. And then ther's Sakura or whatever her name is.

Gojo is alright. Geto intrigues me and learning more about him is why I'm sticking around. It is nice to hear Lex Lang again, too. Love his voice. A great VA can really make a character.

I think the show's weakest part is its aesthetics. Meh character designs isn't so bad but I haven't heard a major anime OST that forgettable in a long time.

Sorry if I sound harsh. In all fairness, the beginning is almost always the weakest part of these shows. Boy does even the great Yu Yu Hakusho fall prey to this. That first arc is rogh as hell and YYH is only approaching good with Genkai's tournament.

Edited by Nikkolas on Jul 14th 2021 at 8:40:27 AM

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#1243: Jul 14th 2021 at 9:07:10 PM

Megumis whole thing is that hes as crazy as everyone else but intentionally holds back. There was a tom of visual parallels between him and Sukuna done when he decides to let loose when he stops holding back in the fight against the Cursed Spirit.

[down] Also this.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jul 14th 2021 at 9:15:51 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#1244: Jul 14th 2021 at 9:10:46 PM

Megumi's bigger thing is that he's kinda suicidal(?). Pretty much every one of his fights has him starting to chant for his Taking You with Me move before someone interrupts him.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#1245: Jul 14th 2021 at 9:14:51 PM

He does go pretty batshit against one of the finger demons.

Some absolutely deranged expressions.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 14th 2021 at 9:15:15 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
indigoJay from The Astral Plane Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#1246: Jul 14th 2021 at 10:09:10 PM

[up] x4: Maki and Mechamaru certainly are going places.

Still, though, I agree about the character designs and OST. I think Mai and Maki's exchange battle had the only decent song.

Edited by indigoJay on Jul 14th 2021 at 1:10:58 PM

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1247: Jul 14th 2021 at 10:34:57 PM

I'm glad Mechamaru will be relevant again. I wasn't sure if the Kyoto kids would be the 1B of jK. Then again, and maybe this will change, JK seems to be avoiding the giant casts of MHA and a lot of other shounen that i suspect were influenced by the old Big 3. There are some benefits to a large cast but focusing on just a handful of characters means nobody is left out. So go Mechamaru.

Edited by Nikkolas on Jul 14th 2021 at 10:38:45 AM

devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#1248: Jul 15th 2021 at 3:04:21 AM

>Yuji is an Idiot Hero and I hate those.

I don't really think Yuuji is that much of an idiot.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#1249: Jul 15th 2021 at 3:17:36 AM

He's more just a cheerful nice guy.

....... Which said cheerfulness slowly gets eroded as the series goes on.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#1250: Jul 15th 2021 at 3:22:31 AM

He's just trying to be optimistic because if you don't at least balance a bit of cheerfulness in this job, you'll either kill yourself or kill other people

I absolutely cannot help but adore handsome 2D boys

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