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Cross (Don’t ask)
#1001: Oct 20th 2021 at 4:42:58 AM

Apparently Ruby Rose has come out with reasons for leaving. Mainly seeing Twitter postings about however and can't find the source, though that might be due to my lack of familiarity with Instagram.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#1002: Oct 20th 2021 at 5:05:21 AM

https://www.cbr.com/batwoman-ruby-rose-horrifying-set-conditions-slams-wbtv-berlanti

A summary. If even half true, what an absolute horror story it is.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#1003: Oct 20th 2021 at 5:37:57 AM

Oh my god. This almost makes me feel physically sick.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1004: Oct 20th 2021 at 5:45:47 AM

[up][up][up]I checked her instagram; they are on her stories and will no longer be visible after some time. But they’re real.

That said… those claims are revolting.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#1005: Oct 20th 2021 at 5:49:21 AM

[up][up][up] See, even when it was still fresh in our minds, I always had a feeling there was more going on behind the scenes regarding Ruby's leaving the show than what we were told.

Suffice to say, this is hands down much worse than I ever expected. Like, much MUCH worse.

Wait...

(*looks back at previous pages*)

Holy hypocritical executive producers, Batman! Caroline Dries is the same lady who insisted that Kate wasn't getting killed off last year! And now it turns out she's (probably) a bad person? Good grief, this show's cursed!

EDIT: Wait, they wouldn't let her take an x-ray?! What the actual fuck, guys?! How can these people be so damn heartless? How are they even in the positions they are in, anyway? Trying to fire the cast and crew and blaming it on the lead actress who was still recovering from a neck injury?! WHO. THE. HELL. DOES. THAT?!

EDIT 2: Oh wait, Peter Roth already left WBTV by now? Huh. HE STILL GOT AWAY WITH PULLING THIS DOUCHEY SHIT, OMFG...

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Oct 20th 2021 at 9:02:36 AM

Krory Since: Aug, 2012
#1006: Oct 20th 2021 at 6:26:46 AM

WB has been doing this shit forever. Tom Welling and KJ Apa both almost died because the studio made them drive home after 16 hour shooting days.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#1007: Oct 20th 2021 at 7:11:53 AM

[up] When was Welling in an accident?

MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#1008: Oct 20th 2021 at 7:23:59 AM

Yikes at all of those claims. I hope they're investigated as soon as possible.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#1009: Oct 20th 2021 at 7:35:22 AM

The CW shows really seem to be a magnet for those kind of things. Remember Kreisberg?

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MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#1011: Oct 20th 2021 at 7:41:36 AM

The whole 20-episodes-a-season thing needs to die (not just with the CW but all across the board) if these are the lengths that networks will take to get the shows produced.

Or better yet, just animate the damn thing. Millennials and Gen Z, the new audience, don't have the same hangups about the Animation Age Ghetto like Gen X and above.

Edited by MegaJ on Oct 20th 2021 at 9:42:37 AM

Cross (Don’t ask)
#1012: Oct 20th 2021 at 7:43:08 AM

[up]x5: Not seeing anything about him being in one, just vocal concerns about the possibility for the very same reasons KJ Apa did crash.

[up] There are creeps and generally horrible people in the animation and VA business too.

Edited by Cross on Oct 20th 2021 at 10:44:45 AM

MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#1013: Oct 20th 2021 at 7:51:38 AM

[up]Correct, but hearing about people working with injuries, stunt people nearly dying, as well as nearly dying while driving home because they've worked 20 hour days makes me think these more fantastic series aren't worth producing if people regularly get hurt doing them. Didn't someone die accidentally during Titans?

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#1014: Oct 20th 2021 at 7:54:59 AM

Remember Kreisberg?

Actually, no. Would you mind elaborating for the rest of us?

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#1015: Oct 20th 2021 at 8:02:45 AM

Andrew Kreisberg was an executive producer on Arrow, Supergirl, Flash and Legends of Tomorrow who was fired for sexual harassment.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#1016: Oct 20th 2021 at 8:10:22 AM

[up][up][up] The issue with stunt work is that it's inherently dangerous. The best they can do is make sure the proper safety measures are in place and not instruct them to something that places them in more danger like with what happened with Joi Harris.

Otherwise the stuff feels like should fall under common sense, but overruled by money or general dickery.

Edited by Cross on Oct 20th 2021 at 11:12:12 AM

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1017: Oct 20th 2021 at 8:12:30 AM

Such working conditions are why the IATSE was about to strike, FWIW; shorter work days were explicitly part of the demands.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#1018: Oct 20th 2021 at 12:36:27 PM

And now we got a statement from WB.

For some reason, I'm more inclined to listen to the lady who almost broke her neck over some PR calling her workplace horror stories "revisionist history."

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#1019: Oct 20th 2021 at 12:56:52 PM

Yeah, ditto.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#1020: Oct 20th 2021 at 1:39:09 PM

Or better yet, just animate the damn thing. Millennials and Gen Z, the new audience, don't have the same hangups about the Animation Age Ghetto like Gen X and above.

They don't?

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#1021: Oct 20th 2021 at 1:46:52 PM

Wait, what?

An article by Deadline about the situation has a comment from someone saying Ruby was let go because she was the one getting complained at from the crew?

As someone who works on Batwoman, I can attest to the fact the cast and crew were subjected to non-stop abuse from Ruby Rose. I have never witnessed such unprofessional behavior. She’s just mad because the stories of her behavior were starting to leak out and affect her career.

I mean, it could just be another troll, but...

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Oct 20th 2021 at 4:47:27 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#1022: Oct 20th 2021 at 2:05:25 PM

The comment responding to that one backs up Rose's claims. Another one by a person claiming to have worked for WB also supports her.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1023: Oct 20th 2021 at 2:13:01 PM

While I understand the desire for clarity, I would take anonymous people on internet comment sections claiming to be insiders with a shovelful of salt.

MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#1024: Oct 20th 2021 at 2:25:11 PM

[up]Gen Z can't get enough of anime, at least. Manga also exploded, of course that's just anime but that's starkly different than how I grew up.

And I've heard Ruby wasn't pleasant to work with (I found her comment about Camrus to be unnecessary), but that doesn't mean that she's lying about her claims.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#1025: Oct 20th 2021 at 2:35:55 PM

The comment responding to that one backs up Rose's claims. Another one by a person claiming to have worked for WB also supports her.

Oh, thank you for the heads-up. I was really hoping it was a troll.


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