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We've just pushed a large overhaul public. Please report complaints, comments and concerns here. When reporting bugs, please make sure you include which browser(s) and platform(s) you have encountered the issue with.

Answers to Frequently Asked Questions

  • Why did we do this? This update has been in development for over a year. It replaces a vast amount of messy code on the back-end, gives us a new modernized design, updates us to https, and creates a platform that we can more easily build on for future updates.
  • Can we go back to the old design? This isn't happening. We'll make the new one work.
  • Why are there so many bugs? As with any major overhaul, some problems will occur. The developers are working full-time on fixing stuff.

Frequently Reported Issues

This isn't everything, just the most common problems.

Status Values 

    General Site Issues 
  • Being logged in as someone else, sort of. [FIXED]
  • Where'd the "Folders Open" toggle go? Not a bug, it's in your profile.
  • Multiple issues with the new site search feature. [Logged]
    • No sorting options.
    • Forum poster search is gone. [FIXED]
    • Can't search specifically by thread title, making results unhelpful.
    • Pagination doesn't work correctly — the last page displays as if there were no search results.
  • Line breaks don't work in some areas. (Ask The Tropers, Trope Launch Pad, forum previews) [Patched]
    • ATT, TLP, forum previews fixed. Some more line breaking issues were identified and are being worked on.
  • The Cut List does not work.
    • Cannot approve or deny requests. [FIXED]
    • Line breaks don't work. [FIXED]
    • Cut request reasons don't appear. [FIXED]
    • Additional cutlist issues noted here.
  • Note, subscript, and superscript formatting are broken in various places. [FIXED]
  • Night vision has significant readability problems. [Patched]
  • Namespace index is broken. [Logged]

    Wiki Issues 
  • Articles may become locked when edited, or when backing out of editing without clicking Cancel. Moderators can remove the locks but can't fix the underlying problem. [Patched]
    • Remaining issue: the lock system still doesn't distinguish between an article that's locked and one that's checked out for editing.
  • Edits won't save when "<" or ">" characters are present in the markup. [Patched]
    • HTML detection was disabled for the time being. We're working on a more robust system.
  • Edits won't save when the [norreallife] tag is present in the markup. [FIXED]
  • Redirects are broken. [Patched]
    • This is at least partially fixed. We need to know if there are any remaining problems.
  • Indexing is broken. [In Progress]
  • Images on wiki articles are rendered smaller than in the previous design. [Patched]
    • Resizing images with [quoteright] tags is still broken.
  • The "Following" list (formerly called the Watchlist) doesn't distinguish visually between viewed and unviewed articles. [In Progress]
  • Custom titles are no longer appearing in all places where they should. [FIXED]
  • In-line icons for Flame Bait, Trivia, and YMMV wicks are intended, but sometimes overlap preceding text. [Patched]
    • Trivia icons should not appear in-line. (Design issue, logged)
    • In second-level bullets, icons overlap preceding text. [Logged]
  • The [invoked] tag no longer suppresses the aforementioned icons. [Logged]

    Forum Issues 
  • [quoteblock] markup causes everything inside to appear italic and squashed together. [FIXED]
  • Line breaking for external links doesn't work correctly. [FIXED]
  • Post numbering is no longer visible, although you can retrieve it from the hard-link. [Logged]
  • "Delete all posts by user" mod feature now causes posts to be completely hidden instead of replaced with "Troll Post". [Logged]
  • "Mark all as read" forum feature doesn't work. [Logged]
  • "Save Draft" feature doesn't work as expected. [Logged]
  • Forum post preview doesn't show all markup. [FIXED]
  • Unread indicators on individual forums (topics.php) seem to have nothing to do with whether you actually have any unread posts. [Logged]

    Miscellaneous 
  • Avatar upload is broken. [In Progress]
  • Avatar galleries aren't formatted properly. [Logged]
  • Crowners are broken. [Logged]
  • Namespace configurator (mod tool) is missing some auto page type options, and the namespace locking feature doesn't work. [Logged]

Previously compiled lists of problems: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 13th 2018 at 3:56:59 PM

AngrokVa indighost | he/them Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
indighost | he/them
#776: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:04:40 PM

I'm getting the feeling we shouldn't edit any main pages until the bug is fixed.

Xbox/PlayStation: IndiGhost77 | on semi-hiatus
blockboy Since: May, 2013
#777: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:06:11 PM

Found another issue. When I close Internet Explorer, I'm forcibly logged out and all of the display buttons on my profile are flicked off (not that it matters. They don't work if they're flicked on or off). This never happened before the update.

I say the best course of action is to revert to the previous version of the website. This new version is buggy as hell.

KoolKoopaGirl Since: Jan, 2017
#778: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:06:44 PM

[up][up] Yeah, we might accidentally delete the whole wiki from existence.

Now THAT is a nightmare.

Edited by KoolKoopaGirl on Jun 26th 2018 at 8:06:38 AM

Peace out, peeps.
TimeLordVictorious Never Ask Me For Anything Ever Again from the Devil May Cry series Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Never Ask Me For Anything Ever Again
#779: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:06:48 PM

TVTROPES 1.3 SIN TALLY:

SENTENCE: JUMPING SHIP TO THE OTHER WIKI

Edited by TimeLordVictorious on Jun 26th 2018 at 8:08:00 AM

"Shout, shout, let it all out These are the things I can do without, come on I'm talking to you, come on!" -Tears For Fears
Doryna Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#780: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:07:13 PM

Oh, and now I tried to edit a page, hit save, and it reset the page like I never wrote everything. Agreeing editing should be shut until all this gets resolved... I can see this really borking up the site.

AngrokVa indighost | he/them Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
indighost | he/them
#781: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:10:52 PM

@KoolKoopaGirl: Ha ha. Also, sorry about my tirade there. I, like several others, no doubt, were getting tired of the forum posts acting like a You Tube comment thread.

@TimeLordVictorious: Really? You're referencing Cinema Sins, of all things?

Edited by AngrokVa on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:12:42 AM

Xbox/PlayStation: IndiGhost77 | on semi-hiatus
Zanreo Meito Anizawa, Anime Tenchou from Glitch City (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Meito Anizawa, Anime Tenchou
#782: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:11:13 PM

When clicking Save Draft when writing a post, I just get the error message "Sorry, no discussion with that id exists."

(on a Samsung Galaxy J5 using the Samsung browser btw)

Edited by Zanreo on Jun 26th 2018 at 5:13:23 PM

"Leftover items still have value!"
KoolKoopaGirl Since: Jan, 2017
#783: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:12:21 PM

@Angrok Va It's cool now. I'm sure we can all settle down and be friends.smile

Peace out, peeps.
TalesofUnder Not Sherlock Holmes from 1900s England Since: May, 2017 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Not Sherlock Holmes
#784: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:16:20 PM

@Angrok Va: Of all things, you take objection to that?

“Now! Let us engage in the art of deduction!”
NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#785: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:17:54 PM

Site is still ugly and the dissatisfied should make that petition.

It is transparent to me they tried to fix a thing that was not broken.

Sign on for this After The End Fantasy RP.
universalperson Since: Jan, 2001
#786: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:18:07 PM

Cross posting fron the Licked Pages thread:

Okay, there may be a fix for the page lock bug. Right click on "Edit" and open it in a new window. Click Save. When you go back to the page you can edit as normal by clicking Edit again.

AngrokVa indighost | he/them Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
indighost | he/them
#787: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:18:10 PM

This Disney XD ident seems to fit the mood of this thread by now:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h2ECQvYG87I

(If external link doesn't work, just search "Sam Levine Disney XD ID" on You Tube.)

Say what you will about Google or Yahoo, at least THEIR overhauls have been properly tested.

Edited by AngrokVa on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:20:30 AM

Xbox/PlayStation: IndiGhost77 | on semi-hiatus
darkemyst Since: Mar, 2017
#788: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:18:26 PM

Links attached to longer phrases do not wraparound to the next line and instead break the paragraph they're in, can be seen on the Viva Las Vegas! and Omega Men pages.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#789: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:19:30 PM

*desire to riot increasing*

I'm really not digging how the main forum masterpost page (or whatever you want to it) is laid out. I liked how the previous version had multiple columns even on mobile so you could quickly jump to a Media subforum. Now I have to scroll done past the Wiki backend list to get to the Video Game or Film threads or whatever.

I'd also like to have the old forum post format back. I can live with the other shit if I can see big avatars again.

Edited by Karxrida on Jun 26th 2018 at 8:20:11 AM

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
wikkit Since: Sep, 2009
#790: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:19:52 PM

Bug: expanding the post window and then typing in it causes it to retract to its normal size.

drewski MOD Since: Aug, 2013
#791: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:22:17 PM

Wiki edits should now be fixed - if not, feel free to PM me directly where you still see issues and we will get those sorted asap. For edits that resulted in a blank page, simply re-save the page and verify the content is back.

Again, we are listening to your feedback re the design changes, whether they are bugs or simply something we changed. Nothing is final here, and we will be pushing updates over the next few days.

NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#792: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:22:18 PM

We have momentum and popular outrage on our side.

The website must go back!

Sign on for this After The End Fantasy RP.
AngrokVa indighost | he/them Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
indighost | he/them
#793: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:23:07 PM

@Karxrida: Looks fine if you have a tablet and set it landscape orientation. See? I'm being helpful!

@drewski: ...and by "pushing", you mean force-feeding, right?

@NickTheSwing: Rioting isn't going to get things done faster.

Edited by AngrokVa on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:26:19 AM

Xbox/PlayStation: IndiGhost77 | on semi-hiatus
TalesofUnder Not Sherlock Holmes from 1900s England Since: May, 2017 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Not Sherlock Holmes
#794: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:25:59 PM

Thanks for dislodging that problem.

“Now! Let us engage in the art of deduction!”
ElliottB1 Since: Apr, 2015
#795: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:26:32 PM

The "show all spoilers" checkbox on the sidebar got replaced with something way less useful? Bullshit.

Edited by ElliottB1 on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:28:50 AM

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#796: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:27:04 PM

@Angrok I use a phone and surf the web exclusively on landscape (I can't stand portrait). Doesn't help.

Also, I don't appreciate the smartass attitude.

Edited by Karxrida on Jun 26th 2018 at 8:27:18 AM

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
AngrokVa indighost | he/them Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
indighost | he/them
#797: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:27:44 PM

@ElliottB1: only in desktop view.

@Karxrida: Sorry, didn't really mean to come off as a smartass.

Edited by AngrokVa on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:28:19 AM

Xbox/PlayStation: IndiGhost77 | on semi-hiatus
KoolKoopaGirl Since: Jan, 2017
#798: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:27:54 PM

Y'know, the new header's sorta grown on me. I like the blue.

Everything else, on the other hand...

Peace out, peeps.
Surenity Since: Aug, 2009
#799: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:30:01 PM

Can't find the edit history on my watchlist, the unfollow button on the watchlist is way too big and easy to accidentally click, and there's an annoying gray line down the middle of the screen when I go to a new page on mobile. I dare not try to edit until all the bugs are worked out.

Why do websites feel the need to shoot themselves in the foot every couple years with ugly new layouts that make all the users angry when everything was fine before?

Edited by Surenity on Jun 26th 2018 at 7:31:18 PM

My tropes launched: https://surenity2.blogspot.com/2021/02/my-tropes-on-tv-tropes.html
SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#800: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:30:02 PM

Found new problem: Long strings of texts that are also external links don't continue to the next line when the string gets to the end of the line. Instead the whole string of blue text moves down to the next line to fit.

Edited by SCMof2814 on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:32:50 PM


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