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We've just pushed a large overhaul public. Please report complaints, comments and concerns here. When reporting bugs, please make sure you include which browser(s) and platform(s) you have encountered the issue with.

Answers to Frequently Asked Questions

  • Why did we do this? This update has been in development for over a year. It replaces a vast amount of messy code on the back-end, gives us a new modernized design, updates us to https, and creates a platform that we can more easily build on for future updates.
  • Can we go back to the old design? This isn't happening. We'll make the new one work.
  • Why are there so many bugs? As with any major overhaul, some problems will occur. The developers are working full-time on fixing stuff.

Frequently Reported Issues

This isn't everything, just the most common problems.

Status Values 

    General Site Issues 
  • Being logged in as someone else, sort of. [FIXED]
  • Where'd the "Folders Open" toggle go? Not a bug, it's in your profile.
  • Multiple issues with the new site search feature. [Logged]
    • No sorting options.
    • Forum poster search is gone. [FIXED]
    • Can't search specifically by thread title, making results unhelpful.
    • Pagination doesn't work correctly — the last page displays as if there were no search results.
  • Line breaks don't work in some areas. (Ask The Tropers, Trope Launch Pad, forum previews) [Patched]
    • ATT, TLP, forum previews fixed. Some more line breaking issues were identified and are being worked on.
  • The Cut List does not work.
    • Cannot approve or deny requests. [FIXED]
    • Line breaks don't work. [FIXED]
    • Cut request reasons don't appear. [FIXED]
    • Additional cutlist issues noted here.
  • Note, subscript, and superscript formatting are broken in various places. [FIXED]
  • Night vision has significant readability problems. [Patched]
  • Namespace index is broken. [Logged]

    Wiki Issues 
  • Articles may become locked when edited, or when backing out of editing without clicking Cancel. Moderators can remove the locks but can't fix the underlying problem. [Patched]
    • Remaining issue: the lock system still doesn't distinguish between an article that's locked and one that's checked out for editing.
  • Edits won't save when "<" or ">" characters are present in the markup. [Patched]
    • HTML detection was disabled for the time being. We're working on a more robust system.
  • Edits won't save when the [norreallife] tag is present in the markup. [FIXED]
  • Redirects are broken. [Patched]
    • This is at least partially fixed. We need to know if there are any remaining problems.
  • Indexing is broken. [In Progress]
  • Images on wiki articles are rendered smaller than in the previous design. [Patched]
    • Resizing images with [quoteright] tags is still broken.
  • The "Following" list (formerly called the Watchlist) doesn't distinguish visually between viewed and unviewed articles. [In Progress]
  • Custom titles are no longer appearing in all places where they should. [FIXED]
  • In-line icons for Flame Bait, Trivia, and YMMV wicks are intended, but sometimes overlap preceding text. [Patched]
    • Trivia icons should not appear in-line. (Design issue, logged)
    • In second-level bullets, icons overlap preceding text. [Logged]
  • The [invoked] tag no longer suppresses the aforementioned icons. [Logged]

    Forum Issues 
  • [quoteblock] markup causes everything inside to appear italic and squashed together. [FIXED]
  • Line breaking for external links doesn't work correctly. [FIXED]
  • Post numbering is no longer visible, although you can retrieve it from the hard-link. [Logged]
  • "Delete all posts by user" mod feature now causes posts to be completely hidden instead of replaced with "Troll Post". [Logged]
  • "Mark all as read" forum feature doesn't work. [Logged]
  • "Save Draft" feature doesn't work as expected. [Logged]
  • Forum post preview doesn't show all markup. [FIXED]
  • Unread indicators on individual forums (topics.php) seem to have nothing to do with whether you actually have any unread posts. [Logged]

    Miscellaneous 
  • Avatar upload is broken. [In Progress]
  • Avatar galleries aren't formatted properly. [Logged]
  • Crowners are broken. [Logged]
  • Namespace configurator (mod tool) is missing some auto page type options, and the namespace locking feature doesn't work. [Logged]

Previously compiled lists of problems: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 13th 2018 at 3:56:59 PM

Edgar81539 Since: Mar, 2014
#651: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:22:46 PM

[up][up][up][up]"We've just pushed a large overhaul public. Please report complaints, comments and concerns here."

"... comments and concerns here."

Are you seriously complaining about people complaining on the complaining thread?

Edited by Edgar81539 on Jun 26th 2018 at 8:22:58 AM

Spinosegnosaurus77 Ramen Fairy from Ontario, Canada Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
LovePsychothefirst Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#653: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:23:05 PM

I did an edit to a page and it just...stopped being shown? Like I check the page source and all the text is there but after a minor edit it just vanished when I try to view it normally.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/CodeGeassLelouchLamperouge

This page to be precise. Is it just me or is this unseeable by others? It really should be there according to the page source and if I check edit or history it's there too...

Edited by LovePsychothefirst on Jun 26th 2018 at 6:25:18 AM

SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#654: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:23:19 PM

The admins probably had a very good reason for doing so. I mean, I would like to know why, but don't assume there is no reason.

I'm complaining about complaints that aren't constructive.

Edited by SatoshiBakura on Jun 26th 2018 at 9:25:16 AM

ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
.....
#655: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:23:51 PM

If this has been added to the condensed list of problems, let me know.

I managed to edit one page, but then afterwards the page is blanked. When I click the Page Source, it's still there, but the main page doesn't display anything. Help?

ATT topic.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#656: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:23:58 PM

@Satoshi: This is the feedback thread so I'm not sure what you were expecting.

dsneybuf (Not-So-Newbie)
SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#658: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:27:11 PM

[up][up] Yes, a feedback thread should have criticism, but it should be constructive. I should have been more clear on that. Just saying that you don't like it or throwing blame at admins is not constructive.

Edited by SatoshiBakura on Jun 26th 2018 at 9:27:05 AM

Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Main Character
#659: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:27:32 PM

Yeah, if you came here expecting anything close to sucking up, you've found the wrong thread.

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#660: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:27:39 PM

Can also confirm on Firefox, closing the browser and restarting kicks out your login. Currently using the most up to date version, so if there are any other Firefox specific bugs let me know and I can check them on Win 7 home premium.

AngrokVa indighost from america, unfortunately Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Saddled with unnecessary feelings
indighost
#661: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:27:56 PM

Took a look at the link above. Yep, totally the apocalypse.

KoolKoopaGirl Since: Jan, 2017
#662: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:28:15 PM

But I think we can all agree that this update causes more problems than it solved.

Peace out, peeps.
Derkhan Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
#663: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:30:28 PM

I'm with Satoshi Bakura here. Voicing concerns is one thing, screaming for the devs and admins to be replaced und wanting to start a petition is not helping anyone, is not constructive and is complete hyperbole. And is actually distracting from those people who genuinely are trying to be helpful by bringing up valid bugs that need fixing.

Edited by Derkhan on Jun 26th 2018 at 3:33:56 PM

TalesofUnder Not Sherlock Holmes from 1900s England Since: May, 2017 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Not Sherlock Holmes
#664: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:31:17 PM

@Satoshi: Coming into a thread like that with an already angry group of people is just gonna piss people off further.

“Now! Let us engage in the art of deduction!”
Coleman Since: May, 2016
SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#666: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:32:46 PM

[up][up] Yeah, I should have seen that coming. tongue

Edited by SatoshiBakura on Jun 26th 2018 at 9:32:39 AM

Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#667: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:33:21 PM

But I think we can all agree that this update causes more problems than it solved.

I'm not sure it solved any problems.

Edgar81539 Since: Mar, 2014
#668: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:33:52 PM

Why is wanting to start a petition to go back to the previous layout so wrong? Considering that it would probably fix all the literal breaking-site bugs that are coming up by the dozen?

I mean, I find it very strange how some of you seem so attached to this format that doesn't work... like at all.

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#669: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:33:55 PM

Hello all.

Yes, the mods and admins are monitoring this thread. It is moving quite quickly, so we cannot feasibly address everyone individually. Septimus was earlier collecting bugs, but had to log off. I, or another mod in an appropriate time zone, will be resuming that. (Personally, I'm on mobile and can't do it at this exact moment.)

Drew and the other admins are busy working on the most critical bugs first, and will be going down the list from there.

Please continue to provide feedback, with device information and screenshots wherever possible. We are listening and have no intent to ignore your questions, concerns, or recommendations.

EmeraldSky (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#671: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:34:55 PM

Oddly, I'm using Firefox and I managed to unplug my entire computer, then when I turned it back on and opened up Firefox... I was still logged in.

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
TimeLordVictorious Never Ask Me For Anything Ever Again from the Devil May Cry series Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Never Ask Me For Anything Ever Again
#672: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:35:51 PM

I think there have been enough complaints at this point to know that some course of action should be taken.

"Shout, shout, let it all out These are the things I can do without, come on I'm talking to you, come on!" -Tears For Fears
SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#673: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:36:28 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up] I'm just going to say this: going back to the previous design could possibly fuck up the site even more. It's not a design problem, it's a coding problem.

Edited by SatoshiBakura on Jun 26th 2018 at 9:36:48 AM

WilliamRadarStorm my current job from News Station NT Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
my current job
#674: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:36:34 PM

My two cents on the matter: The new posts page looks really ugly on Night Vision mode. Beyond that, most of my grievances have already been stated.

The possum is a potential perpetrator; he did place possum poo in the plum pot.
TalesofUnder Not Sherlock Holmes from 1900s England Since: May, 2017 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Not Sherlock Holmes
#675: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:36:37 PM

You do not know how much I agree with Edgar.

Edited by TalesofUnder on Jun 26th 2018 at 6:37:05 AM

“Now! Let us engage in the art of deduction!”

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