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Answers to Frequently Asked Questions
- Why did we do this? This update has been in development for over a year. It replaces a vast amount of messy code on the back-end, gives us a new modernized design, updates us to https, and creates a platform that we can more easily build on for future updates.
- Can we go back to the old design? This isn't happening. We'll make the new one work.
- Why are there so many bugs? As with any major overhaul, some problems will occur. The developers are working full-time on fixing stuff.
Frequently Reported Issues
This isn't everything, just the most common problems.Status Values
- Being logged in as someone else, sort of. [FIXED]
- Where'd the "Folders Open" toggle go? Not a bug, it's in your profile.
- Multiple issues with the new site search feature. [Logged]
- No sorting options.
- Forum poster search is gone. [FIXED]
- Can't search specifically by thread title, making results unhelpful.
- Pagination doesn't work correctly — the last page displays as if there were no search results.
- Line breaks don't work in some areas. (Ask The Tropers, Trope Launch Pad, forum previews) [Patched]
- ATT, TLP, forum previews fixed. Some more line breaking issues were identified and are being worked on.
- The Cut List does not work.
- Cannot approve or deny requests. [FIXED]
- Line breaks don't work. [FIXED]
- Cut request reasons don't appear. [FIXED]
- Additional cutlist issues noted here
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- Note, subscript, and superscript formatting are broken in various places. [FIXED]
- Night vision has significant readability problems. [Patched]
- Namespace index is broken. [Logged]
- Articles may become locked when edited, or when backing out of editing without clicking Cancel. Moderators can remove the locks but can't fix the underlying problem. [Patched]
- Remaining issue: the lock system still doesn't distinguish between an article that's locked and one that's checked out for editing.
- Edits won't save when "<" or ">" characters are present in the markup. [Patched]
- HTML detection was disabled for the time being. We're working on a more robust system.
- Edits won't save when the [norreallife] tag is present in the markup. [FIXED]
- Redirects are broken. [Patched]
- This is at least partially fixed. We need to know if there are any remaining problems.
- Indexing is broken. [In Progress]
- Images on wiki articles are rendered smaller than in the previous design. [Patched]
- Resizing images with [quoteright] tags is still broken.
- The "Following" list (formerly called the Watchlist) doesn't distinguish visually between viewed and unviewed articles. [In Progress]
- Custom titles are no longer appearing in all places where they should. [FIXED]
- In-line icons for Flame Bait, Trivia, and YMMV wicks are intended, but sometimes overlap preceding text. [Patched]
- Trivia icons should not appear in-line. (Design issue, logged)
- In second-level bullets, icons overlap preceding text. [Logged]
- The [invoked] tag no longer suppresses the aforementioned icons. [Logged]
- [quoteblock] markup causes everything inside to appear italic and squashed together. [FIXED]
- Line breaking for external links doesn't work correctly. [FIXED]
- Post numbering is no longer visible, although you can retrieve it from the hard-link. [Logged]
- "Delete all posts by user" mod feature now causes posts to be completely hidden instead of replaced with "Troll Post". [Logged]
- "Mark all as read" forum feature doesn't work. [Logged]
- "Save Draft" feature doesn't work as expected. [Logged]
- Forum post preview doesn't show all markup. [FIXED]
- Unread indicators on individual forums (topics.php) seem to have nothing to do with whether you actually have any unread posts. [Logged]
- Avatar upload is broken. [In Progress]
- Avatar galleries aren't formatted properly. [Logged]
- Crowners are broken. [Logged]
- Namespace configurator (mod tool) is missing some auto page type options, and the namespace locking feature doesn't work. [Logged]
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Edited by Fighteer on Jul 13th 2018 at 3:56:59 PM
I have noticed that long lines of text tends to go outside the textbox both here in the forums and history pages.
Can confirm; just did a test in the forum sandbox.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=i8uor2qhs54fh07tkxkxpktr&page=262#comment-6544
Blapper of Water
I'm not sure if this is intentional or not, so I'll mention this here.
So while the notifiers are working again in the sense that they actually have unique messages in them, it looks like anyone can edit those notifiers before sending them. That is, the notifier is pasted into the message box and if you want to edit the message, you can.
It looks like it was unintentional because links are not internal links with out markup. I mean it isn't potholed like [[link text]] but instead with the <a href=link>text</a> HTML coding. I can't imagine we would want random tropers to be able to change these messages at will, though I understand that sometimes, the message needs to be tweaked a little.
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty
"Yo Smithy!"
The related and discussion subpages for pages don't have edit buttons on them either.
"Come on! Let's get this show on the road."
I'm not sure if I missed clicked or something (I'm on a Kindle Fire using Silk), but I figured I should mention it; the "Show Spoilers" button suddenly switched to on for seemingly no reason when I clicked into Thavidux 1234 from Steven Universe's related page.
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The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Are we sure that the rogue edit-lock glitch has been completely resolved? Cells at Work! is locked despite being editable yesterday, and trying the "right-click-then-open-in-new-page the edit button" solution is working (it just redirects back to the article).
Or could this be the "locked-due-to-pending-edit is indistinguishable from locked-due-to-mod-action or a rogue lock"?
EDIT: Appears to be the latter, because I've found it editable again just now.
Edited by MarqFJA on Jul 18th 2018 at 3:58:35 PM
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The Wanderer
Seems like the stretching problem is on the forums too
The spacing/paragraph issue on sporadic character pages is exactly what calmuto said, and still persists. It seems that the paragraph issue has been fixed for the forums.
Visual wiki bug: Secondary float boxes overlapping text at times.
Edited by eagle108 on Jul 19th 2018 at 3:50:36 AM
Mastermind Rational
Just noticed a weird glitch on the talk page, not sure if it was reported before (at least it's not in the pinned post above). When I posted here https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=VideoGame.Dishonored#comment-108359-118261, the wikilinks got borked:
Expected: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Dishonored/TheKnifeOfDunwall
Actual: https://tvtropes.org/'/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Dishonored/TheKnifeOfDunwall/'
It's as if the URL isn't escaped properly. Interestingly, it doesn't affect older posts by other users from 2017 just above it, so I think it has something to do with saving new posts.
Edited by Koveras on Jul 19th 2018 at 4:44:05 PM
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I just came here to report a similar issue. I tried linking to a forum thread in a Discussion page, but the URL added an extra https://' to the front of the address. I think this is the same issue that caused the link to this thread in the bulletin notice to be borked up when the update first rolled around. The URL is fine when you go to edit it again, it just won't save properly.
Safari mobile user here, whatever happened to the option to turn off certain ads via an X in the top right hand corner? I liked that feature.
I haven't noticed any change in ad behavior in iOS Safari.
I've encountered what might be a slight glitch with the little side line/dots that show up on a bullet point intent... On the page for Star Trek TNG under "Broken Aesop", the line just stops. Not sure if that's intentional or not. Here's a pic.
https://postimg.cc/image/ume382ypx/
This is on OSX, Seamonkey (ff49.0)
There is a bug in the admins' tool for bug recording "Newly launched pages are ending up with completely blank Related pages." that they need an example for. Is it still an issue?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
"Yo Smithy!"
It seems like the edit lock timer isn't counting down. I just spent about 5 minutes editing VideoGame.Super Mario Galaxy 2 and still had 20 minutes left.
"Come on! Let's get this show on the road."
These are the voyages...
It may reset the timer when you do something in the box. Some systems give you a "rolling" lock.
Characters.Lady Lovely Locks has line breaks in the edit box, but they don't show up on-page. Using Firefox on XP.
EDIT: FanficRecs.Lady Lovely Locks and other fanfic rec pages also seem to have that issue.
Edited by lalalei2001 on Jul 20th 2018 at 4:17:07 AM
The Protomen enhanced my life.
x5: It's because there's a commented-out bullet point in the source code. Having that missing text is breaking the list formatting. Links for reference: Series.Star Trek The Next Generation, source code.
Now that the most crippling bugs seem to be ironed out, it seems like a good time to bring up again that it's still REALLY hard to tell the unread changes from the read ones on the Following page.
The way the Followed Threads page on the forums handles it— with the green check mark and bolded text on unread threads— is really good. If the Following page could be formatted the same way, it would be great.
I'm not a web designer so I have no idea how much work that would take, but it would be nice to know that addressing it is at least on the to-do list.
Thanks!
Redmess
Still have trouble with threads not jumping to the right post, especially in threads with folders or videos, it seems.
Optimism is a duty.
Really miss the option to find a random item of the same media type (e.g., "Random Video Game" on the "Fallout" page, or "Random TV Show" on a page for "The Good Place").
Not sure if this has been mentioned before or not but watch:
Here's a video link. Then, still on the same line I post a second video. There's not a line break here, but the site puts this on a completely new line, even though there's no reason for it.
This is very random, but the number 0 looks different when writing a post. It's crossed, while it's an empty oval in the preview and in finished posts.
EDIT: Probably the font is different, but I had never noticed that until now.
Edited by Victin on Jul 20th 2018 at 5:56:24 AM
Chrome, Win. 7.
Once again, attempting to access threads by looking them up individually through Google takes me to a blank "sorry this discussion id doesn't exist" page. I have to go to the actual Forums page if I want to access threads (as trying to access even subforums such as On-Topic Conversations will still bring that message). Also like last time, it takes practically forever for the site to load.
I get that this was a result of the site updating the last time it happened, but what gives? Why is it happening again? It's really inconvenient and frustrating.
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