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We've just pushed a large overhaul public. Please report complaints, comments and concerns here. When reporting bugs, please make sure you include which browser(s) and platform(s) you have encountered the issue with.

Answers to Frequently Asked Questions

  • Why did we do this? This update has been in development for over a year. It replaces a vast amount of messy code on the back-end, gives us a new modernized design, updates us to https, and creates a platform that we can more easily build on for future updates.
  • Can we go back to the old design? This isn't happening. We'll make the new one work.
  • Why are there so many bugs? As with any major overhaul, some problems will occur. The developers are working full-time on fixing stuff.

Frequently Reported Issues

This isn't everything, just the most common problems.

Status Values 

    General Site Issues 
  • Being logged in as someone else, sort of. [FIXED]
  • Where'd the "Folders Open" toggle go? Not a bug, it's in your profile.
  • Multiple issues with the new site search feature. [Logged]
    • No sorting options.
    • Forum poster search is gone. [FIXED]
    • Can't search specifically by thread title, making results unhelpful.
    • Pagination doesn't work correctly — the last page displays as if there were no search results.
  • Line breaks don't work in some areas. (Ask The Tropers, Trope Launch Pad, forum previews) [Patched]
    • ATT, TLP, forum previews fixed. Some more line breaking issues were identified and are being worked on.
  • The Cut List does not work.
    • Cannot approve or deny requests. [FIXED]
    • Line breaks don't work. [FIXED]
    • Cut request reasons don't appear. [FIXED]
    • Additional cutlist issues noted here.
  • Note, subscript, and superscript formatting are broken in various places. [FIXED]
  • Night vision has significant readability problems. [Patched]
  • Namespace index is broken. [Logged]

    Wiki Issues 
  • Articles may become locked when edited, or when backing out of editing without clicking Cancel. Moderators can remove the locks but can't fix the underlying problem. [Patched]
    • Remaining issue: the lock system still doesn't distinguish between an article that's locked and one that's checked out for editing.
  • Edits won't save when "<" or ">" characters are present in the markup. [Patched]
    • HTML detection was disabled for the time being. We're working on a more robust system.
  • Edits won't save when the [norreallife] tag is present in the markup. [FIXED]
  • Redirects are broken. [Patched]
    • This is at least partially fixed. We need to know if there are any remaining problems.
  • Indexing is broken. [In Progress]
  • Images on wiki articles are rendered smaller than in the previous design. [Patched]
    • Resizing images with [quoteright] tags is still broken.
  • The "Following" list (formerly called the Watchlist) doesn't distinguish visually between viewed and unviewed articles. [In Progress]
  • Custom titles are no longer appearing in all places where they should. [FIXED]
  • In-line icons for Flame Bait, Trivia, and YMMV wicks are intended, but sometimes overlap preceding text. [Patched]
    • Trivia icons should not appear in-line. (Design issue, logged)
    • In second-level bullets, icons overlap preceding text. [Logged]
  • The [invoked] tag no longer suppresses the aforementioned icons. [Logged]

    Forum Issues 
  • [quoteblock] markup causes everything inside to appear italic and squashed together. [FIXED]
  • Line breaking for external links doesn't work correctly. [FIXED]
  • Post numbering is no longer visible, although you can retrieve it from the hard-link. [Logged]
  • "Delete all posts by user" mod feature now causes posts to be completely hidden instead of replaced with "Troll Post". [Logged]
  • "Mark all as read" forum feature doesn't work. [Logged]
  • "Save Draft" feature doesn't work as expected. [Logged]
  • Forum post preview doesn't show all markup. [FIXED]
  • Unread indicators on individual forums (topics.php) seem to have nothing to do with whether you actually have any unread posts. [Logged]

    Miscellaneous 
  • Avatar upload is broken. [In Progress]
  • Avatar galleries aren't formatted properly. [Logged]
  • Crowners are broken. [Logged]
  • Namespace configurator (mod tool) is missing some auto page type options, and the namespace locking feature doesn't work. [Logged]

Previously compiled lists of problems: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 13th 2018 at 3:56:59 PM

EmeraldSky (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
#226: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:14:24 PM

I haven't been able to read through all the posts here but I've been checking different Tear Jerker, Heartwarming, Nightmare Fuel etc. pages and they all seem to be edit locked. Is that a bug?

Edited by EmeraldSky on Jun 26th 2018 at 2:19:59 AM

Bolded1 Fate, guide me from behind you!!!!!!!! Since: Mar, 2015
Fate, guide me
#227: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:15:03 PM

Yeah, the old layout wasn't flawless but I'll take it over the current one any day.

And even without the lists worth of bugs it just look weird.

Nautolan picture belongs to Bonesmarinated on twitter
DevilPsyco from The Underworld (pretty deep down in the ground) Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
#228: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:15:13 PM

I'd be up for a petition to get the old layout back (if that's even a possibility). There was absolutely no reason to change things and it's doing more harm than good.

Edited by DevilPsyco on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:15:16 AM

In the year 202X, all is devastation... Soon, any last shred of hope had by the saintliest optimist shall die and decay.
Zanreo Gizmondo from Glitch City (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Gizmondo
#229: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:15:22 PM

Also, new forum search! I kinda like how you can search posts containing a certain word now... but would be nice if they showed in chronological order or had an option to, in general more options than just restricting it to "search by forum" Also "search post by user" (at least for yourself) would be nice

Edited by Zanreo on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:16:16 AM

My favorite failed console tbh
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#230: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:16:15 PM

Earlier it says it was changing to a bigger and better site, they lied.

catmuto Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#231: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:16:42 PM

Aw, hell, I will gladly be locked out of logging in for a few hours again, if it means getting the old layout and format back.

Kaiseror, you made me laugh. I needed that!grin

Edited by catmuto on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:16:52 AM

SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#232: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:17:05 PM

The login issue should be resolved now. Log out and then back in if it still jacks up.

Edited by SeptimusHeap on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:17:19 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
keyblade333 Ferdinand Von Aegir fan from In the void between worlds. Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Ferdinand Von Aegir fan
#233: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:17:10 PM

Reserving judgment for how good/bad this overhaul is for now, but I have noticed a few issues.

  • A few pages seem to be locked. For example, the Fire Emblem Heroes YMMV page is locked even though it wasn't before.
  • No option to remove spoiler covering. Not a big deal, but it was a quality of life option.
  • Cannot view my profile like I could before by clicking my profile icon in the top right. The menu extends past the screen. I tried zooming in and out, but that didn't do anything.
  • Significant slow down on some recap pages. Page was stopped almost like it was freezing.
  • On forum parts, you have to scroll down to find the option to move to another page. Not a big deal, but another quality of life change.

Muramasa got.
Beed28 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#234: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:17:19 PM

I'm not a fan of this new layout either. Please give us the option to change it back!

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#235: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:17:23 PM

I CANNOT post in some threads. A page appears that keeps saying it's "private"

DarkPhoenix94 Since: Jan, 2015
#236: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:17:30 PM

I'd fully like to join the 'old layout back, please' train - if anything, the current layout looks like an actual step down in quality. A significant one.

  • Furthermore, editing is a pain: on those pages I CAN edit, editing is lagging (and it's definitely a problem with the page, not browser or computer or connection, I checked), and there are a number of pages that are randomly locked.
  • Other pages allow access to the editor but don't accept any changes whatsoever, complaining that I'm trying to 'change too much'.

For example, Child of the Storm. The main page, though, is locked, for now reason whatsoever (and I checked the locked pages list), and while I can access the editor for the sub-pages, any changes I attempt to make don't go through and it complains that I'm trying to make too many changes to the page.

Edited by DarkPhoenix94 on Jun 26th 2018 at 10:21:10 AM

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#237: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:17:42 PM

[up]x4 The spoiler option's in Profile now.

Edited by rmctagg09 on Jun 26th 2018 at 5:17:34 AM

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
CharmingCrescendo Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#238: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:18:15 PM

I can't edit pages without the site going into an error 500.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#239: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:18:29 PM

I don't hate the new layout but, if given the option, I would return to the old one.

This song needs more love.
kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#240: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:18:42 PM

Or maybe we wait and see how quick they fix these problems?

Angeldeb82 Since: Dec, 2010
#241: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:18:51 PM

Well, with the new layout of TVTropes, I logged in, but when I exit and reenter Chrome, I get logged out of TV Tropes and I had to log back in again, because the "Remember Me" button is not working. At least I'm not logged onto someone else's profile.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#242: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:19:26 PM

[up] The spoiler option's in Profile now.

The spoiler option was in the profile before, too. It wasn't enough, which is why it was added to the sidebar.

Another vote for changing the layout back, even if only temporarily. At this point it's not even about whether you like the new layout or not, it just has too many wiki-breaking bugs to be live.

Edited by Discar on Jun 26th 2018 at 2:21:20 AM

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.
thatsnumberwang (Elder Troper)
#243: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:20:02 PM

I know that complaining follows every change to a long standing site, I remember the last change and the complaining that followed that. But the difference here is whilst that update was huge and fundamental that changed how everyone used the site in multiple ways, this one seems to be little more than a rather confusing series of inconveniences that add nothing. What was the purpose of this update? Why change a design that was working perfectly? I'm actually rather confused.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#244: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:20:28 PM

Assuming we're getting a vote here, throw me in the "change it back" pile too.

Maybe this should have been rolled out as a "beta" or a "try this design and tell us what you think" kind of thing?

Youtube has a tendency of just throwing new designs/feature out too and it's really annoying. Was this supposed to be more efficient? Was the old design causing too many technical issues?

Edited by Soble on Jun 26th 2018 at 2:22:51 AM

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
Edgar81539 Since: Mar, 2014
#245: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:21:40 PM

Wow, without holding words back, I will say it.

The new layout is crap. I tried navigating the pokemon character pages and not only is the font now too small, now the folder indentation looks like my cellphone internal storage folder. The renders clash terribly with the new style while also being small. The spoiler tags look horribly clunky too.

Seriously, where is the going back option? I also can't edit anything.

Korodzik Since: Jan, 2001
#246: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:21:41 PM

The new forum search looks like a cool idea, but needs work. Searching for a phrase in quotes treats the quote character as a word in its own right, and returns all posts that contain a quote character.

keyblade333 Ferdinand Von Aegir fan from In the void between worlds. Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Ferdinand Von Aegir fan
#247: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:21:59 PM

Update: Managed to go to my profile by using url. Changed spoiler feature but spoilers still not revealed.

Muramasa got.
Zanreo Gizmondo from Glitch City (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Gizmondo
#248: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:22:03 PM

Yeah, this just came out of nowhere. What, specifically was the point of this and what was "wrong" with the old layout?

My favorite failed console tbh
Bolded1 Fate, guide me from behind you!!!!!!!! Since: Mar, 2015
Fate, guide me
#249: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:22:04 PM

Such a massive update should have been tested and built up to yeah, instead of being dumped in such a buggy state.

Sure, it could improve, but as said before, the old layout's problematic elements could have been easily fixed with far less changes.

Edited by Bolded1 on Jun 26th 2018 at 2:24:27 AM

Nautolan picture belongs to Bonesmarinated on twitter
Midna Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they) from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they)
#250: Jun 26th 2018 at 2:22:08 PM

Yeah, pictures in general are far too small. Avatars, page images, all of them.

pearlina brainrot affects millions of people worldwide. if you or a loved one are suffering from pearlina brainrot, call 1-800-GAY-NERDS

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