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Lyendith I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane! from Bègles, France Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane!
Mar 25th 2020 at 8:05:07 PM

Isn't there a playable male character in the Honkai May Cry mode planned for 3.8? Or is it just for the beta?

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4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Mar 26th 2020 at 1:12:07 AM

[up] It's official, there's a playable male

Not just that, it's "us" (Hello, [Insert Name Here])

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Lyendith I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane! from Bègles, France Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane!
Mar 27th 2020 at 5:45:08 PM

[up] …Yeah, I suppose most players are guys. =.="

Speaking of which, we won't have to wait much longer it seems.

Continuing the Chronicles, I've now started… Bronya's Homu adventures…? I'm not sure what it's about, but it has Solid Snake and Kotomine Kirei voicing walking plushies, so it's worth it. tongue I kinda needed that since chapter 6 of the main story is increasingly heartbreaking.

But damn, character and weapon upgrades are getting seriously pricey. I'm forced to choose which characters to upgrade now… and the Sakuras have the galls to also require a ton of mithril for some of their upgrades. ;__; But at least I've maxed out Theresa's black-and-blue cross (forgot the name) and just need one more upgrade for the Xuanyuan Sword. Or two? Both are getting pretty damn powerful at any rate.

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Servbot Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Mar 27th 2020 at 10:25:23 PM

[up] …Yeah, I suppose most players are guys. =.="

If it makes you feel better, the fact that the Self Insert can't be made female was one of the many reasons why the reveal of the male Supporting Protagonist Self Insert didn't go down very well with several fans (Others include: Why are you suddenly adding a male protagonist in our Waifu game? Why are you suddenly adding a male protagonist in our Yuri game? If you wanted a male playable character, why didn't you make them a side character we're actually interested in like Siegfried or Welt? If you wanted a Self Insert, why didn't you just make it the Captain that we've been using in the non-canon events?)

The backlash was apparently bad enough even in the Chinese boards that the preview was immediately followed by a Q&A session that seemed to be an attempt to placate the angry masses by assuring players that the male character will only be in a Post-Honkai Odyssey, he won't appear in the main storyline or the Hyperion, and that no playable male characters will be added in the upcoming chapters of the main storyline

I kinda needed that since chapter 6 of the main story is increasingly heartbreaking.

Ooooh yes, Chapter 6 was the first time I teared up while playing Story Mode. I was not expecting the events there. sad

But damn, character and weapon upgrades are getting seriously pricey. I'm forced to choose which characters to upgrade now… and the Sakuras have the galls to also require a ton of mithril for some of their upgrades. ;__;

Hah, I remember the first time that happened to me. I went from "Wow, they gave me so many materials that I don't know what to do with them" to "Wait, what happened to my materials? ;_;"

Edited by Servbot on Mar 27th 2020 at 11:24:16 AM

4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Mar 28th 2020 at 12:09:47 AM

My argument: if they're gonna add a male playable character, they should've done that from the start. It may not become a "waifu collector" or "yuri" game, but at least people will accept it more easily.

Agree with the "either male or female" part (which Genshin does). And even then, I believe a non-self insert character would be more interesting even if they're male.

Yeah, they (Mihoyo) could've done better, but I have to question the Chinese playerbase as well... I can't help but ask, "are they (unironically) angry incels?"

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AnoBakaDesu Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
Mar 28th 2020 at 1:09:22 PM

I will not be adding any new characters folders in relation to the ongoing Second Key comic until it's made clear who is who in that Mind Screw alternate world.

"They played us like a DAMN FIDDLE!" — Kazuhira Miller, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Mar 28th 2020 at 5:26:27 PM

Someone said that Durandal is living the Pioneer's life where Rita (Durandal's BFF) plays as Kevin (Pioneer's BFF). Dunno about the other characters though.

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Lyendith I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane! from Bègles, France Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane!
Mar 28th 2020 at 6:49:01 PM

Hah, I remember the first time that happened to me. I went from "Wow, they gave me so many materials that I don't know what to do with them" to "Wait, what happened to my materials? ;_;"

Yeah, it's a bit of a shock when you have like 500k coins and when you're in the middle of upgrading your roster, suddenly, "what do you mean, not enough coins? When did that happen?" evil grin

Meanwhile, I unlocked Arctic Kriegsmesser. It might be my favorite Himeko suit so far (or would be if I wasn't completely broke in upgrade materials tongue ). On the other hand, I feel like Battle Storm and Valkyrie Triumph could have been fused into one, since VT is basically a better version of BS in every way. I kinda feel the same way with Knight Moonbeam and Ranger Valkyrie for Kiana − there's just not much you can do with KM alone…

I also unlocked Yamabuki Armor for Bronya, but same problem as with AK − actually worse, since I have to upgrade her from level 1. I'm level 54. Speaking of which, Asumi Kana shows some nice vocal range as the witches of the Homu world. [awesome]

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Lyendith I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane! from Bègles, France Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane!
Mar 29th 2020 at 5:48:04 PM

Huh… chapter 7 and 8 are… different. The Gameplay and Story Segregation regarding character selection is suddenly abolished, we got two shoot-'em-up levels, we play two sides of the conflict, there's a level with literally only dialogue, lots of CGs and it ends with a fully animated cutscene. And boy, what a cutscene. ò.Ô I guess humanity's screwed. Or the humanity aboard the Schiksal HQ at least. Himeko and Tesla might actually be safer in jail than in the open, right now… not that Himeko has much longer to live apparently…

Almost teared up at Mei's in-game monologue where she says everything she loves about Kiana… It's a pity we haven't seen those two interact much after chapter 1.

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Servbot Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Mar 29th 2020 at 8:09:06 PM

And boy, what a cutscene. ò.Ô

I was so tempted to spoil that chapter when you said the below tongue

At moments like these, it's easy for me to forget that this is a game designed for mobile phones. It amazes me at times just how fast technology has advanced. waii

Almost teared up at Mei's in-game monologue where she says everything she loves about Kiana… It's a pity we haven't seen those two interact much after chapter 1.

Yeah, despite being the main love interest, poor Mei tends to get sidelined in terms of plot, which does hamper the development of their relationship quite a bit.

Edited by Servbot on Mar 29th 2020 at 8:09:55 AM

4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Mar 29th 2020 at 8:59:45 PM

They probably just don't know what to do with Mei. Bronya and Kiana had to deal with what they are and their pasts, but Mei's threads have been seemingly ended. Kinda doesn't help when she's just the type who's willing to let go and has been basically "recovered" while others haven't.

I don't know the details of what happened in GGZ, but I heard she's a bit more important there? Feels like in HI 3 they have to sideline her to make a completely different story.

They only way they could put her in play again is to make her concern about the present (kinda like Himeko), but of course this is somewhat harder (writing wise) than dealing with the past...

Yeah, her struggle now is to take Kiana back home, but she's got a lot to do and the obstacles just keep getting harder. And I dunno, but she likely would have to wait and struggle until the very end to get her happy ending, considering how central Kiana is to the story right now.

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Lyendith I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane! from Bègles, France Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane!
Mar 30th 2020 at 2:58:57 PM

I don't know how Mei ended up with a Herscher inside her but that has to be something she'll have to deal with, no?

Anyway, I just played the first level of Chapter 9 but… you're telling me there's a suit with both the destructive power of a Himeko and the speed of a katana user? That's just cheating at this point. evil grin

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4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Mar 30th 2020 at 3:13:38 PM

[up] more importantly, now she doesn't have her Herrscher core anymore

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Lyendith I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane! from Bègles, France Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane!
Mar 31st 2020 at 4:58:48 PM

Man, Void is cartoonishly evil but she's so good at it that I don't even care. evil grin It's like she rehearsed that shit every morning, waiting for the day she could ham it up in front of everyone.

Meawhile, Mihoyo uploaded some footage and details of Durandal's gameplay. Looks pretty dope. surprised

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AnoBakaDesu Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
Apr 2nd 2020 at 12:45:20 PM

The more times I re-read Elan Palatinus, the more I'm convinced that putting the Overseer in the Complete Monster category is a mistake. Schicksal's corruption can't be traced back to one man alone if the organization as a whole keeps operating as planned. And let's face it, the man just doesn't have enough screentime to tick the prerequisites; if anything, Father Victor is a more direct antagonist in the comic. Kallen might call the Overseer out on his greed when the Black Box is open, but Otto doesn't, acknowledging that humanity's problems run deeper than this.

For me, the Overseer's way too much of a background character, and thus lacks visibility.

Honkai Impact 3rd: The Great Overseer of Schicksal is the first leader of the Schicksal Organization and the father of Otto Apocalypse. Initially presented as a benevolent figure helping several European princes create a feudal order and stop the Honkai in order to take back the lost lands that the latter conquered, the Overseer reveals his true power-hungry nature by performing experiments on innocent civilians to turn them into zombies or monsters and kickstarting a war with the Ming Empire. Losing the war, the Overseer extorts the money from poor civilians and allows his priests and aristocrats to abuse the population as they please, and later attempts again to start a war with the Ming Empire again.

Just like the Herrscher of Corruption (whose status as a CM was debunked), the sequence of events and circumstances here isn't quite right. The experiments on the Black Box were conducted in secret while people like Otto were searching for a cure against the Great Plague. Some of the proposed cures before Otto's successful one even inadvertently turned the sick into zombies. Father Victor flat out states to Kallen that she has no idea how many people were killed to create the first cure.

The war with the Ming Empire comes about as a product of Schicksal's overly ambitious expansionism. Post-war, Schicksal extorted money from the poor, and the secret experiments were a way to unlock the Black Box's contents; a blind attempt to master its power and consolidate Schicksal's power in the face of the princes who started rebelling, as well as use it to take revenge on the Mong Empire.

I'm discussing here before we bring the entry back to the Complete Monster cleanup thread. A troper once said to me that being a CM is not a badge of honour, but a tool.

"They played us like a DAMN FIDDLE!" — Kazuhira Miller, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
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