Perpetually Confused
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Lets be honest "The best transformer Movie" is not exactly high praise. Even the 86 movie is not that great. It's barely coherent, poorly plodded, etc...
When the bar is so low, rising above if it not an accomplishment.
Bumblebee IS a genuinely good movie though.
I found it somewhat flawed but otherwise enjoyable, also I really like the creativity done with transforming in the movie! I don't think i've seen anything like it in other transformers media.
At the very least this film I felt gave me what I wanted out of Pacific Rim: Uprising.
fuckANN
Just saw it. It was a pretty good movie. Not amazing but definitely a step in the right direction. Its a shame that this movie apparently isn’t the start of a reboot which I’m disappointed by since if it was meant as the first film in a rebooted series then it started out on the right foot
You're going to pay a price for every bloody thing you do and everything you don't do. You don't get to choose to not pay a price.
Who says it's not a reboot? Seems like one to me.
fuckANN
Not yet anyways
You're going to pay a price for every bloody thing you do and everything you don't do. You don't get to choose to not pay a price.
The movie really doesn't do a very good job as a reboot, it definitely relies on the fact there have been five previous movies establishing the premise and characters. The exposition of "Why Earth?" is glossed over quickly. And despite the Continuity Snarl and shifted visual design it still banks on what came before and how the character has been portrayed, especially why Bumblebee always insists on a Camaro alternate mode.
I politely disagree with that opinion. Since the other Bayverse movies' efforts in maintaining continuity were nonexistent, I went into Bumblebee thinking it's set in a splinter timeline separate from the other movies (so a reboot that takes some cues from the Bayverse) and it sold me as both a solid movie and the first chapter in a new Movieverse.
And in a turn of good news, Bumblebee has stung Aquaman at the box office in China
and is blowing away expectations.
For context, pretty much everyone figured it would earn $40 million US or less over there. It earned $59.4 million by Sunday (today).
Buzz buzz. 
One thing I will say is that the Decepticon-Human alliance here was done far better than in The Last Knight. Like, compare the uneasy interactions between the humans and Shatter and Dropkick in that film to, well, this:
The Head of the Hydra
Ya know its weird how Autobots are kill on sight yet their imprisoning Decepticons.
Also the fact Megatron is actually negotiating for the release of his men to humans by holding some of them hostage.
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Edited by slimcoder on Jan 7th 2019 at 1:07:41 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Mostly because some writers think it's more interesting to have the good guys constantly impeded and hunted, i've seen the same thing in the comics as well.
No matter how poorly written it is.
Seriously, the government claims Decepticons are kill on sight while Autobots have been given sanctuary, yet there's nothing from the government or anything about a paramilitary group running around killing Autobots out of space racism?!
Bayformer's Negative Continuity at it's finest.
It might have been even worse in the original G1 comic, at times it seemed like humanity at large was more antagonistic towards the autobots than the decepticons were. Then again, it was marvel comics and you know how marvel citizens/governments are.
Not to mention when you factor in what happened with Dark of the Moon.
"You Autobots have to leave now because the Decepticons will follow you."
-Autobots leaving causes Decepticons to launch a full-on invasion-
Come next movie: RAWR TRANSFORMERS R EVIL
The Head of the Hydra
Humans are ungrateful little turds.
To think one of the them qualified for being The Last Knight.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
This is going to be so much fun.
I really, really enjoyed this film. But maybe because it's such a massive quality jump from the Bayformers. Also anyone else felt the movie wouldn't be so far away from other 90's films? Yeah despite the (late) 80's setting it's so 90's.
Really the only bad part is the nerd dude. He served no purpose and during his introduction in the middle really slowed the pacing at the middle.
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Polygon has a satirical look back at the plot points Bumblebee retcons
It's mostly Just For Laugh, but my favorite bit is the author's "List of questions he'd have liked answered if there were more Bay movies"
- Did the Transformers’ existence influence Darwin’s view of evolution, since he was part of the Order of the Witwiccans?
- Were the works of William Shakespeare informed by the existence of giant alien robots? Was this universe’s Henry V really about Transformers?
- How did the Transformers showing up thousands of years ago influence human religion?
- Did Jesus, like Shia La Beouf, visit Transformers heaven in his dying moments?
- Was Jesus a Witwiccan? He was, wasn’t he?
- Did a Decepticon kill JFK to stop the discovery of Sentinel Prime?
- Did Bumblebee of the original universe help America during the Vietnam war? Did he witness the Mỹ Lai massacre? Is that why his voice box was removed?
- Were the Transformers the basis for most human technology? *How does Elon Musk feel about all this?
- Did the Autobots tear down the Berlin Wall?
- Did the Seekers build the Gardens of Babylon?
- Does Damien Chazelle still make First Man, and does Ryan Gosling’s portrayal of Neil Armstrong, a man obsessed with finding Transformers on the moon, win him an Oscar?
- Since the Transformers aren’t known to the public until 2007, does Michael Bay still become a filmmaker in the Transformers universe?
- Does Bay still go on to make movies about the Transformers anyway? Do the Transformers consider his works exploitative?
Bumblebee has done well enough that a sequel has been greenlit.
The Head of the Hydra
And thus begins what is hopefully a new Golden Age of Transformers movies.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
I would like to see a War For Cybertron-esque film entirely from the Transformers perspective but that might be a bit too expensive.
Hasbro’s Allspark Studios is hiring for a narrative director in franchise development.
As someone on TFW2005 said, Hasbro is basically saying "Look at me. I'm the captain now."
Fingers crossed they hire Lindsay Ellis.
-7, Come to think of it weren't the humans in the IDW comics hostile to the autobots despite the fact they saved them from extermination at the hands of the deceptions (and even had an alliance with them against the autobots despite all they had done)?
Well, this is one hell of a pagetopper.
They said it was the best Transformers movie.
THEY. WERE. FREAKING. RIGHT.
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jan 1st 2019 at 4:24:24 AM