Aren't most tropes, Universal Tropes?

Aren't most tropes, Universal Tropes?

Like, Abandoned Area, Abusive Parents, and "Dear John" Letter, could all appear in any medium?

So what makes Universal Tropes being anything other than Tropes, minus Media Tropes?

edited 13th May '18 9:35:02 AM by Malady

From what I can see, Tropes covers Genre Tropes, Media Tropes, Narrative Tropes, and Topical Tropes. (There's also trivia-tropes and ymmv-tropes, which we are ignoring for now.)

I'd agree that Universal Tropes is those four indexes, minus Media Tropes. (I'm somewhat expecting overlap between said indexes, so I wouldn't say it was the other three indexes.)

edited 14th May '18 8:58:47 AM by crazysamaritan

- So, if it's so broad, what's the use of it?

Couldn't it be used as a supercategory for those?

- So have Universal Tropes' subindexes be Genre Tropes, Narrative Tropes, and Topical Tropes?

And Tropes is defined as the union of Universal Tropes and Media Tropes?

I think a trope can be a subtrope of Narrative Tropes and Media Tropes, which would mean it isn't a part of Universal Tropes. (No, I can't articulate on the point of the page any more than I can articulate the point of most tropes.)

Yes, it seems self-evident that all tropes are either media-specific tropes or non-media-specific.

Then there's probably no point on having such an index.

- The only problem with removing it would be that it breaks the sidebar, as it's linked under Crucial Browsing, Narrative.

WAIT... Why is it under Narrative Tropes, in the sidebar, but indexed in Tropes, instead?

I guess 'cause the description doesn't saying anything about it, and Universal Tropes has Narrative Tropes as a subindex, instead of the other way around??

Errr

Given that the name Universal Tropes sounds too similar to Omnipresent Tropes, perhaps disambiguate it?

Like:

• Omnipresent Tropes
• Tropes that aren't Media Tropes.
• Universal Studios Tropes
• Tropes About Universes