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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
May 9th 2018 at 4:46:03 PM

As weve already got set leaks and now other spoilers for Avengers 4 I figured itd be good to start a thread for them, specifically to keep them out of the others MCU threads where people would like to be able to go without having future films spoiled for them.

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Cortez Bien chicky starr. from Puerto Rico
Bien chicky starr.
May 9th 2018 at 5:03:42 PM

So we seem to be getting a teenage Cassie Lang, i wonder if she'll suit up as either Stature or Stinger.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
May 9th 2018 at 5:09:23 PM

I'd prefer Stinger, personally - I really want Kamala Khan, and growing feels like it should be her territory. Then again, Scott's already done Giant Man...

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May 9th 2018 at 5:26:35 PM

Tights, capes, and explosions?

May 9th 2018 at 5:53:55 PM

I like the name Stature better, but the Stinger outfit is better - especially since it's more obviously an offshoot of Ant-Man's own costume, the same as the MCU version of Wasp's outfit.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
May 9th 2018 at 5:59:05 PM

[up][up] Nobody wears capes or tights here.

edited 9th May '18 5:59:31 PM by slimcoder

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May 9th 2018 at 6:13:46 PM

Are Infinity War spoilers also okay on this thread, or is it solely for stuff about upcoming movies?

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
May 9th 2018 at 9:11:50 PM

So the reason I'm sure Antman is gonna be major is because there's set photos of him and older Tony running around what seems to be the original Avengers battle in New York. So he's almost certainly going to be around from the start.

edited 9th May '18 9:12:14 PM by AJSthe2nd

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May 10th 2018 at 11:29:47 AM

Hopefully Cassie does suit up - although they'll have to pick a name they could composite the identities together a bit. I can't recall if she had shrink and grow powers simultaneously in the comics but they may as well here.

It seems silly to forbid prior spoilers if we're allowing A4 ones.

TobiasDrake Exposition Dragon from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
May 10th 2018 at 11:34:12 AM

Since it seems like the film's really going to run with a time skip to the future and then temporal shenanigans to undo the damage, I bet you good money that we're getting Kang the Conqueror in the stinger.

Time travel, destroyed future, and a Cosmic Reset Button? Kang seems like the obvious answer for where you go from there.

EDIT: The biggest thing that confuses me and I really hope they have an answer for it is: if they really are time-skipping forward a decade or so, then how did Tony get back to Earth? Presumably he and Nebula would need to find wherever the Dustbowl Guardians left the Milano in order to leave Titan.

How Tony gets from flying the Milano with Nebula in the wake of Parker's death to, "Well, time to pack it in and go home. Show's over. Nothing left to see here. I'm retired anyway. Who cares about avenging the lost?" is going to need a lot of explaining, because that seems remarkably out of character for Tony "successfully privatized world peace" Stark.

edited 10th May '18 11:38:50 AM by TobiasDrake

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Ultimatum ◕ Disasturbator from England Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
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May 10th 2018 at 11:40:25 AM

> Tights, capes, and explosions?

thats DC you're thinking of

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything
Not really a lord of anything
May 10th 2018 at 11:48:39 AM

[up][up]I could see him giving up not because he wants to but simply because he can't do anything. He has no idea where Thanos is or how to find him. I doubt anyone alive does.

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May 10th 2018 at 12:09:27 PM

Yeah, the Guardians' current ship is presumably fine and Nebula can pilot it so they probably go back to Earth pretty soon after IW ends. Judging by older Stinger and grey-haired Tony we're probably seeing the future somehow. The question is who puts the plan into action and how quickly - if it isn't Tony, he probably doesn't have much to do. Maybe make some new armours or try to contact everyone who's still alive but that won't go anywhere much towards bringing people back.

May 10th 2018 at 12:19:40 PM

I wonder if Harley is going to turn out to be a Canon Character All Along.

Like, turns out he's a young Kang or something.

edited 10th May '18 12:20:04 PM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
May 10th 2018 at 12:23:26 PM

Nick Fury did contact Captain Marvel, so maybe she'll rescue Tony.

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May 10th 2018 at 1:54:41 PM

It seems silly to forbid prior spoilers if we're allowing A4 ones.
It might be hilarious though. "Hey, remember that thing we absolutely can't talk about? Well, here's how I think it's going to get fixed..."

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fasoman1996 Hamston Black from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Hamston Black
May 10th 2018 at 2:32:14 PM

Nah dude, Guy Pearce is the mandarin.

Anyway, unpopular opinion but i don't think Tony will die.

edited 10th May '18 2:32:38 PM by fasoman1996

I dont even know anymore
FerrousMaelstom Relationship Status: Drift compatible
May 10th 2018 at 2:51:06 PM

My current theory is either Tony or Steve will die. Death flags can easily be red herrings so not sure though. Also the alive one (or if I'm wrong and both live) may retire anyway.

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May 10th 2018 at 2:54:33 PM

wild mass guessTony and Steve will reconcile, both die in a blaze of glory, then be laid to rest next to each other as true comrades and friends.wild mass guess Might be a bit too corny though.

TobiasDrake Exposition Dragon from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
May 10th 2018 at 5:03:03 PM

And all his gear is on Earth. He probably needs a refuel.

Refueling makes sense. But giving up, settling down with Pepper, and spending the next however many years raising a kid just doesn't feel like what Tony would do from here. He is literally the person who said, "If we can't protect the Earth, you can be damn sure we'll Avenge it."

In the comics, the Avengers split down the middle during the aftermath of Operation: Galactic Storm. A massive galactic genocide that the Avengers had been trying to stop was successfully carried out, leaving Steve and Tony on separate sides of where to go from here.

Steve's position was, "Well, we did what we could, but the show's over. You can't win 'em all. Time to pack it in, team. We're going home."

Tony, on the other hand, took the stance of, "Absolutely not. The f*cker who did this is still out there, and we're Avengers so we're going to go Avenge. The job's not done until we find the asshole responsible for untold deaths and put him in the ground."

This was one of the many times where the Avengers broke up along the Tony/Steve boundary, with half of the Avengers agreeing with Cap that more deaths won't solve anything and the other half flying off with Tony to (successfully) go murder a genocidal monster in retribution for the harm he's caused.

edited 10th May '18 5:03:31 PM by TobiasDrake

Drake's Razor: Never attribute to cold unfeeling logic that which can be equally explained by emotional outburst.
TargetmasterJoe Much more than meets the eye! from The City, USA Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Much more than meets the eye!
May 10th 2018 at 6:01:41 PM

Kind of amazed this page is up already, though maybe it shouldn't be suprising considering how much stuff went and hit the fan in Infinity War.

Anyway, since this thread is on Avengers 4 and involves spoilers, I found a rumor that I really hope isn't clickbait:

Avengers 4 might feature the Skrulls.

Heh, sounds like the Quicksilver phenomenon all over again, right? (Though nobody's confirmed or denied the presence of Skrulls in X-Men: Dark Phoenix and A4 having Skrulls is a rumor too...)

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May 10th 2018 at 6:31:30 PM

If the Skrulls are in it, and given that the plot involves time travel, my guess is that they travel to the future and discover that - partially as a result of Thanos killing off half of Earth's defenders - Secret Invasion happened successfully. But not as the point of the movie, rather an indication that "holy shit, this is happening in the background right now and might be the focus of Avengers 5."

edited 10th May '18 6:31:54 PM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
May 10th 2018 at 9:11:35 PM

I don't think now is the time to bring in the Skrulls as a major threat - I think Thanos should be the main focus, without any major distractions.

edited 10th May '18 9:11:57 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!

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