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As we’ve already got set leaks and now other spoilers for Avengers 4 I figured it’d be good to start a thread for them, specifically to keep them out of the others MCU threads where people would like to be able to go without having future films spoiled for them.
So we seem to be getting a teenage Cassie Lang, i wonder if she'll suit up as either Stature or Stinger.
I'd prefer Stinger, personally - I really want Kamala Khan, and growing feels like it should be her territory. Then again, Scott's already done Giant Man...
Tights, capes, and explosions?
I like the name Stature better, but the Stinger outfit is better - especially since it's more obviously an offshoot of Ant-Man's own costume, the same as the MCU version of Wasp's outfit.
Nobody wears capes or tights here.
edited 9th May '18 5:59:31 PM by slimcoder
Are Infinity War spoilers also okay on this thread, or is it solely for stuff about upcoming movies?
So the reason I'm sure Antman is gonna be major is because there's set photos of him and older Tony running around what seems to be the original Avengers battle in New York. So he's almost certainly going to be around from the start.
edited 9th May '18 9:12:14 PM by AJSthe2nd
Hopefully Cassie does suit up - although they'll have to pick a name they could composite the identities together a bit. I can't recall if she had shrink and grow powers simultaneously in the comics but they may as well here.
It seems silly to forbid prior spoilers if we're allowing A4 ones.
Since it seems like the film's really going to run with a time skip to the future and then temporal shenanigans to undo the damage, I bet you good money that we're getting Kang the Conqueror in the stinger.
Time travel, destroyed future, and a Cosmic Reset Button? Kang seems like the obvious answer for where you go from there.
EDIT: The biggest thing that confuses me and I really hope they have an answer for it is: if they really are time-skipping forward a decade or so, then how did Tony get back to Earth? Presumably he and Nebula would need to find wherever the Dustbowl Guardians left the Milano in order to leave Titan.
How Tony gets from flying the Milano with Nebula in the wake of Parker's death to, "Well, time to pack it in and go home. Show's over. Nothing left to see here. I'm retired anyway. Who cares about avenging the lost?" is going to need a lot of explaining, because that seems remarkably out of character for Tony "successfully privatized world peace" Stark.
edited 10th May '18 11:38:50 AM by TobiasDrake
> Tights, capes, and explosions?
thats DC you're thinking of
I could see him giving up not because he wants to but simply because he can't do anything. He has no idea where Thanos is or how to find him. I doubt anyone alive does.
And all his gear is on Earth. He probably needs a refuel.
Yeah, the Guardians' current ship is presumably fine and Nebula can pilot it so they probably go back to Earth pretty soon after IW ends. Judging by older Stinger and grey-haired Tony we're probably seeing the future somehow. The question is who puts the plan into action and how quickly - if it isn't Tony, he probably doesn't have much to do. Maybe make some new armours or try to contact everyone who's still alive but that won't go anywhere much towards bringing people back.
I wonder if Harley is going to turn out to be a Canon Character All Along.
Like, turns out he's a young Kang or something.
edited 10th May '18 12:20:04 PM by KnownUnknown
Nick Fury did contact Captain Marvel, so maybe she'll rescue Tony.
*Gasp* Tony Stark reveals he’s Iron Man?!?
Nah dude, Guy Pearce is the mandarin.
Anyway, unpopular opinion but i don't think Tony will die.
edited 10th May '18 2:32:38 PM by fasoman1996
My current theory is either Tony or Steve will die. Death flags can easily be red herrings so not sure though. Also the alive one (or if I'm wrong and both live) may retire anyway.
Tony and Steve will reconcile, both die in a blaze of glory, then be laid to rest next to each other as true comrades and friends. Might be a bit too corny though.
Refueling makes sense. But giving up, settling down with Pepper, and spending the next however many years raising a kid just doesn't feel like what Tony would do from here. He is literally the person who said, "If we can't protect the Earth, you can be damn sure we'll Avenge it."
In the comics, the Avengers split down the middle during the aftermath of Operation: Galactic Storm. A massive galactic genocide that the Avengers had been trying to stop was successfully carried out, leaving Steve and Tony on separate sides of where to go from here.
Steve's position was, "Well, we did what we could, but the show's over. You can't win 'em all. Time to pack it in, team. We're going home."
Tony, on the other hand, took the stance of, "Absolutely not. The f*cker who did this is still out there, and we're Avengers so we're going to go Avenge. The job's not done until we find the asshole responsible for untold deaths and put him in the ground."
This was one of the many times where the Avengers broke up along the Tony/Steve boundary, with half of the Avengers agreeing with Cap that more deaths won't solve anything and the other half flying off with Tony to (successfully) go murder a genocidal monster in retribution for the harm he's caused.
edited 10th May '18 5:03:31 PM by TobiasDrake
Kind of amazed this page is up already, though maybe it shouldn't be suprising considering how much stuff went and hit the fan in Infinity War.
Anyway, since this thread is on Avengers 4 and involves spoilers, I found a rumor that I really hope isn't clickbait:
Avengers 4 might feature the Skrulls.
Heh, sounds like the Quicksilver phenomenon all over again, right? (Though nobody's confirmed or denied the presence of Skrulls in X-Men: Dark Phoenix and A4 having Skrulls is a rumor too...)
If the Skrulls are in it, and given that the plot involves time travel, my guess is that they travel to the future and discover that - partially as a result of Thanos killing off half of Earth's defenders - Secret Invasion happened successfully. But not as the point of the movie, rather an indication that "holy shit, this is happening in the background right now and might be the focus of Avengers 5."
edited 10th May '18 6:31:54 PM by KnownUnknown
I don't think now is the time to bring in the Skrulls as a major threat - I think Thanos should be the main focus, without any major distractions.
edited 10th May '18 9:11:57 PM by KarkatTheDalek
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