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  • Why do a cleanup?: This trope definitely exists and has has a well documented history of use. That being said, it frequently gets misused to a character who meets one of the components, namely that they are smart, charming while not necessarily even being a villain, or create good plans. While these are components, there is also a certain personality required, not to mention that all of the above are required to be present for a character to be a true Magnificent Bastard. As the trope attracts interest, it unfortunately brings in a lot of misuse and I thought the best way to rectify this would be a Perpetual Cleanup Thread, as is being done and has seen success with Complete Monster.

  • What makes a Magnificent Bastard: Below are a list of the individual components to make this character. Note that they must all be present, not just some, which has lead to frequent misuse:
    • Must be intelligent: Goes without saying, to be a Magnificent Bastard, the character has to be smart in the first place and use their brain to work towards whatever their end goal may be;
    • Must be a Bastard: While going overboard in how vile the character is can be detrimental, a key aspect is the Bastard part of the trope, whether the character is an out-and-out antagonist in the work, some manner of Villain Protagonist, or something in between, they at least have some unscrupulous qualities to qualify for this trope;
    • Must not be too detestable: Again, there is a ceiling on how bad the character can be before they just become too nefarious, blocking out the Magnificent part of the trope. A genocidal racist or child-raping Sadist aren't going to make the cut;
    • Think on their feet: In addition to being a Chessmaster, a Magnificent Bastard, if the character deals with situations in which their initial plan is ruined, has to be able to pull a Xanatos Speed Chess and at least come up with a competent strategy to make up for lost time, otherwise they fail for being unable to think in tough spots;
    • Have charm: Even if they don't necessarily make every character they meet fall in love with them and can even be detested by others, the audience has to find an amicable social relation to the character, or they are failing to make the impact required for this trope.

  • What to do if a character is listed on a page but has not been approved?: They need to be removed, all candidates need to come through the cleanup thread first. The character could well count but they need to be analyzed properly and voted on first.

  • Do we list Playing With this trope?: No, while this, like any other trope can be played with, we only want examples that explain it being Played Straight.

  • What do I do if I want a character to be listed as a Magnificent Bastard?: The greatest success Complete Monster saw for its cleanup effort was from the invention of the effort post format, so, borrowing from that, a troper wishing to propose a Magnificent Bastard will create such a post in the following format:
    • Being by describing The work, this will help establish the setting the character is in and for the reader to understand what kind of a scenario they are in;
    • Summarize The character's actions, this will provide a listing for readers to understand what they do and how it applies to this trope because charm and lack of smugness are so crucial, this is a good time to be incorporating exactly the flavour of how they operate to explain this;
    • List circumstances in which the character must Think on their feet, these are times where a wrench might be thrown in their initial plan and they have to adapt on the spot or even come up with a new scheme all together, this is also a good time to explain how the villain reacts to defeat when they have to face it, a true Magnificent Bastard won't break down into tears at the thought of death, they should have known such a possibility could occur and be able to handle it with more dignity;
    • The competition, similar to the Heinous Standard dealt with for a Complete Monster, this section is to deal with how successful the character is in carrying out their plans compared to other characters. While, as a villain, they probably are going to lose in the end, it is good to explain how other characters handle the same situation. There is no exceptionalism case to be made for this trope but explaining the variety helps the reader have a better understanding of the proposal.

  • How do you know when the character's arc is done so they can be proposed? When their tenure as a villain or antagonist finishes. This could happen in a single Story Arc in an entire work, a single work of a franchise, or the whole series in general. We'll show lenience to Long-Runners with constantly recurring candidates or series with outstanding continuities (ex. comic books), and it's entirely possible to count in a work or two but not in general for a reason like Depending on the Writer.

  • What about candidates evil because of external sources? Those Made of Evil can qualify if they show enough individuality and tactical acumen — in other words, they have the personality to fulfill the magnificence requirement. Conversely, those brainwashed, especially if they're a better person without it, may fail the individuality aspect and cannot count.

  • What if they are under orders from a higher-up? Depends. If the boss created the plans down to the letter and the candidate is just following them, sounds like we should discuss the boss instead. However, if the candidate takes creative liberties with the orders, adds their own charm and flair to them, fills in holes in the orders, and/or actively deals with obstacles their boss did not talk about, the candidate shows enough individual thinking to qualify.

  • Is there a timeframe rule like with Complete Monster?: Yes, please wait two weeks until after the work has concluded before proposing a character (again, usually using the North American airdate). As is the case with CM, we want to give a reasonable time frame so that everyone interested in seeing the work has done so and can participate in the discussion without having anything spoiled.

  • Can I propose my own work's character as a Magnificent Bastard?: No, this is a YMMV subject and the creator of a content is way too biased to be able to evaluate the criteria we're looking for without a second opinion taking over. That being said, you are more than welcome to encourage someone to consume your creation and if they feel a character counts, are more than welcome to suggest them.

Edited by 43110 on Jul 21st 2019 at 9:45:52 AM

G-Editor Kevin Sucks Day from Honolulu, HI Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Kevin Sucks Day
Mar 26th 2020 at 4:17:20 PM

[tup] to Biggie, Rissotto, Graver, and Catwoman (again). I wonder if the main comic book counterpart of Catwoman could qualify?

Now then, I got a candidate from a movie that I just finished watching. The movie in question is called The Assignment.

What’s The Work?

The Assignment is a 2016 action drama film starring Michelle Rodriguez and Sigourney Weaver as a hitman and psychotic doctor respectively. My candidate is the former whose name is Frank Kitchen

Who Is He? What Has He Done?

Frank Kitchen is a notorious hitman who makes money by killing numerous people. Unfortunately for him, he ends up killing the brother of a psychotic doctor named Rachel Jane, who as revenge has Frank kidnapped where Jane performs an involuntary sex reassignment surgery rendering Frank physically female.

Frank would vow revenge on Jane after discovering what she has done to him, but first Frank to kill anyone who either was involved in Frank’s surgery or knew at least knew something about Jane. After learning where Jane’s hideout is, he goes there to kill her, only to be ambushed by Jane’s men.

Jane there holds Frank prisoner, where she plans to perform another surgery on Frank to remove his arms. However Frank uses his “features” to seduce Jane’s assistant before killing the assistant and the rest of Janes men, before shooting Jane non-fatally.

Frank then stages the scene to make it look like Jane’s assistant killed everyone, while framing Jane for killing her own assistant, so that when Jane tries to explain that Frank did all this, the authorities will believe Jane to be insane, having her committed to a psychiatric ward, which all works perfectly.

To rub more salt on Jane’s wound, Frank has also cut off Jane’s fingers to ensure that she would never perform surgeries again, before leaving, hoping to start a new life and make it the best that he can.

Is He Intelligent? Is He Charismatic?

As a professional hitman, Frank Kitchen is shown to have extensive knowledge on the criminal underworld, while also cunning enough to track down his targets, get himself out of dire situations, and stage a scenario that gets Jane commissioned to a mental hospital.

Frank is also cool and collected in these scenarios with the only time that he loses his composure is when learning that Jane turned him into a woman against his will. Even so, Frank quickly regains it and decides to pursue vengeance against her before coming to terms with what was done to him and making the best of it.

What’s The Competition Like?

Really the only person who could match Frank in intelligence is of course Dr. Jane. That said Jane has does things that makes her too deplorable to count such as performing surgeries against her patience will, while also being very smug about them, and loses to temper during her stay at the Ward, ruining her chances to get out go the Ward. In the end Jane gets outsmarted by Frank, so Frank wins here.

Is He a Bastard? Is He Too Much of a Bastard?

Okay so Frank is a Villain Protagonist who has murdered countless of people including those who are innocent as long as people paid him to do so, subjects a woman to a Fate Worse than Death by cutting all of her fingers before setting her up to be commissioned to a psychiatric ward, and admits in a recording that he’s a bad person.

That said Frank never commits crimes that are too deplorable to be disqualified, does adopt a dog after learning it was abuse, does spare his girlfriend when he learns of her involvement in his unwilling surgery, and the woman that he subjected that Fate Worse than Death to is the Big Bad Mad Doctor.

Final Verdict?

I will leave it to you guys

[down] I know its amazing!

Edited by G-Editor on Mar 26th 2020 at 1:33:13 AM

It's now an official holiday!
miraculous The Napoleon of crime from South Africa
The Napoleon of crime
Mar 26th 2020 at 4:29:06 PM

[tup]Kitchen

This maybe the first day we've had more eps on this rather the cm thread. [lol]

"My horror at his crimes was lost in my admiration at his skill"
MasterN The Plasma King from Florida- I mean Unova Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The Plasma King
Mar 26th 2020 at 4:31:01 PM

[tup] Kitchen.

Wow, we finally reached the Number of the Beast page count.

One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.
Bullman Relationship Status: Abstaining
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from Nakatomi Plaza Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
43110 People need to be properly guided. from Jupiter, The Man Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
People need to be properly guided.
Tyk5919 Badger in a Nice Suit Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Mar 26th 2020 at 5:28:41 PM

Second Strike Back proposal.

The Shadow Warfare season focuses on Section 20 trying to stop a mysterious terrorist who goes by the codename al-Zuhari. The only lead that Section 20 has is a man named Leo Kamali, who handles al-Zuhari's money and financial dealings with various terrorist organizations across the world. Desperate to stop al-Zuhari's plans, Section 20 goes after Kamali and all of his associates. And let's just say that Kamali is a rather complex man...

Who Is He?

Leo Kamali is The Chessmaster behind most of the events in the season.

What Has He Done?

The season opens with Liam Baxter having been captured and tortured in a cornfield in Lebanon. When Leo arrives at the scene, he executes Baxter, fully aware that he's a member of Section 20 and not a journalist like he claims. Later on, Kamali has a meeting with several of al-Zuhari's cartel partners in Colombia so they can partner up with The Mafiya. Stonebridge, Scott, their DEA partner Kim Martinez, and Mossad agent Rebecca Levi storm the mansion, kidnap Kamali, and kill Viktor Ulyanov, son of Russian gangster Arkady Ulyanov. As the protagonists try to flee Colombia via boat, the boat is destroyed. Kamali, while underwater, helps Scott save Rebecca from drowning before he escapes. After traveling to Bogota and uncovering information from a safe deposit box, Stonebridge and Scott corner Kamali at his safe house. Just as they're about to kill him, Kamali reveals he's deep undercover with the CIA, and only he will be able to stop cartel leader Miguel Gomez from killing them as Gomez's forces storm the safe house. Kamali convinces Gomez to take the two hostage, where they torture them. While Gomez and his men are distracted, Kamali helps the two escape, albeit they capture him again. Just as Section 20 begin to interrogate Kamali, August Van Berg, Kamali's CIA handler, shows up and frees him, and Section 20 allow Kamali to go back in play under their scrutiny.

Back in Lebanon, Kamali has a meeting with a courier named Amir. During the meeting, Amir finds out he's being tailed by Section 20 and tries to escape, only to get mortally gut shot in a shootout. He reveals to Stonebridge and Scott that James Leatherby is bringing al-Zuhari into the country from Syria. Kamali goes to a casino to pay off Leatherby, but after he brutally murders the man his lover's having an affair with, he tries to leave. Stonebridge and Scott convince him to stay undercover. Later on, Section 20 intercepts the plane carrying al-Zuhari, but find out it's carrying a woman named Sophia Abboud. Major Rachel Dalton (who's become unhinged due to PTSD and morphine addiction) later abandons Section 20 and kidnaps her. Philip Locke, replacing Dalton, instructs Kamali to track her down. He finds her as Dalton is torturing Sophia, and the two find out that Sophia is al-Zuhari's wife. Pretending to be al-Zuhari's friend, Kamali frees her, and he and Dalton follow Sophia. Kamali informs Locke of Dalton's whereabouts while also allowing Dalton to chase after Sophia on foot. Unbeknown to everyone, Kamali hired Irish terrorist Mairead McKenna to kill the both of them—which she does, before shooting Kamali in the shoulder after he pretends to try and save Dalton before it's too late.

With Locke now commanding Section 20, Kamali feels the unit is more stable to work with. The protagonists find out that several IRA terrorists led by McKeena have teamed up with Al-Zuhari to bomb the British Embassy so they could steal sensitive information from a NATO hub. Kamali silently allows the IRA to complete their objective; they succeed in handing over a hard drive containing the information, but all the Irish terrorists—McKeena included, who is personally killed by Kamali—perish. Kamali later closes all of al-Zuhari's bank accounts and kills the man accompanying him, believing the man planned on killing him. Locke chews out Kamali for this, but he tells Locke that al-Zuhari's people suspect there's a traitor, and this is confirmed when a car bomb kills Kamali's handler. Kamali meets with Arkady Ulyanov so they can discuss Al-Zuhari's final plans. In exchange for details on the final plans, Kamali agrees to hand over the men who killed his son. Still trying to maintain his cover, Kamali confesses he gave up Scott and Stonebridge—the former escapes Arkady's men, but the latter is kidnapped. He also learned that Arkady has a biochemical compound in Drezna, where Stonebridge was taken. Section 20 finds out where Stonebridge is located and that the facility has been creating weaponized smallpox. Kamali offers to infiltrate the facility so he can rescue Stonebridge and secure the smallpox. Section 20 storms the facility, and Kamali successfully kills the Mad Doctor running the facility, but is taken by al-Zuhari's goons. Knowing he's a traitor, al-Zuhari force Kamali to read a statement on a video recording, before he's shot in the head.

Except no.

The season finale reveals that al-Zuhari has been dead for half a year; no one has known except for Kamali and his close associates. Keeping al-Zuhari's status secret, Kamali played both the heroes and the villains, allowing them all proceed with their plans so he could get ahold of a vial of smallpox—which he did shortly before he was captured. It's revealed that Kamali plans on using the smallpox to infect several American soldiers at Ramstein Air Base so that when they fly back to America, they'll cause a pandemic. He and several of his goons pose as cleanskins so they can infiltrate the base and release the virus. As Kamali and his companions complete their task, Section 20 finds the base and starts taking out Kamali's goons, albeit not before one of them releases some of the smallpox and infects soldiers in a contained area. Kamali, desperate, changes his plans and tells Qassem to disperse the virus over Berlin from an airplane. The airplane is shot down before this can happen, but it's revealed that Kamali was never onboard. Instead, he and his daughter, Ester, are captured by Arkady and taken to Center Square. Kamali, having one last strain of the vial, walks across the Square, offering to give himself up to save Ester in exchange for Stonebridge and Scott. But during the trade, Kamali reveals the case he had the virus in was empty, and he intends on releasing the virus right then and there in public. After Arkady and his goons are killed in a shootout, Stonebridge, Scott, and Ester try to get Kamali to surrender. Knowing he's lost and that he'll never see Ester again, Kamali tries to release the virus and is mortally shot.

After his daughter, Scott, and Stonebridge beg him to, Kamali reveals the cure for the virus is in his daughter's necklace, and succumbs to his wounds.

Is He Charming? Charismatic? Magnificent?

Absolutely. Everytime he talks alongside other gangsters, everyone shuts up and listens to him. When Kamali is at the meeting in Colombia, he gets all of the leaders to ally with each other, and has one representative murdered just to show everyone else what'll happen if they act out of line. When Kamali sees Scott and Stonebridge storming his safehouse, he willingly surrenders to them before convincing them that he's CIA in a matter of minutes. When Kamali's talking to Amir, he subtlely and wordlessly warns him that Section 20 is following him. After finding Major Dalton, he "pretends" to free Sophia solely to lure her and Dalton into a trap, and then intentionally waits for Dalton to spring McKeena's trap so that he'll arrive mere seconds after Dalton is murdered. He even told McKeena to shoot him just to make everyone believe he was a victim too. When he meets with Locke and Van Berg, Kamali walks outside of Van Berg's car, pretending to storm away in a huff. And then he turns around seconds before the bomb goes off, acting as though the bomb was meant for him. And let's not get into how he faked his death to fool Section 20 into believing he died as a hero who sacrificed his life.

His reasons for doing what he does are justifiable as well. Kamali mentions how his wife died pointlessly because someone dropped a bomb onto the ambulance she was riding in shortly after giving birth to Ester. When Kamali goes into his Freudian Excuse, he actually backs up his points. Kamali rants about how people like Stonebridge and Scott don't care about their victims, about the people that they kill and how it affects others around them. This is proven earlier on when Martinez and Julia Richmond both kill a Mook talking to his girlfriend/wife/daughter over the phone and completely gloss over it, and this is in fact a plot point when Stonebridge and Scott casually kill Viktor, another Red Shirt who just so happened to be the son of a Russian mob boss who sought revenge later on. Kamali was on the receiving end of this situation, having been an ordinary man whose wife was taken from him because the pilot who dropped the bomb on his wife's ambulance believed he was doing the right thing too. And to Kamali, attacking the military was his personal way of exploiting the good guys' hypocrisy.

It's difficult to disagree with some of his logic.

Is He a Bastard? Too Much of a Bastard?

Definitely. Kamali had absolutely no problem with playing his allies like pieces on a chessboard. He frequently exposed, sold out, and in some cases, personally murdered anybody who was of no value to him or anyone capable of ruining his plans. Liam Baxter, Rachel Dalton, August Van Berg—all these people died solely because of Kamali. He had nothing to do with some of the schemes of the Arc Villains, such as Rebecca's death and what the IRA intended on doing after they assisted al-Zuhari, but he is responsible for cobbling together a scheme to weaponize smallpox and release it across America, which would've killed thousands, if not more.

He's not a heartless prick though. As mentioned above, he's doing all of this to avenge his wife's death and because he finds the heroes to be just as bad as the villains, indiscriminately killing people and not caring whose lives are affected afterwards. And despite his tendencies to sacrifice his own men and allies, the one person he can't sacrifice is Ester. He frequently goes to Section 20 asking them to protect Ester whenever she is in peril, and wastes no time begging them to rescue her from Leatherby after he kidnaps her earlier on in the season. And in the end, Kamali chose to do the right thing by giving up the smallpox vaccine when his daughter begged him to.

Final Verdict?

I say yes.

May or may not look into other possible MB candidates from the show. Forgot how much I love this series.

I write stories and shiz. You can read them here.
miraculous The Napoleon of crime from South Africa
The Napoleon of crime
Mar 26th 2020 at 5:33:20 PM

[tup]Kamali

"My horror at his crimes was lost in my admiration at his skill"
43110 People need to be properly guided. from Jupiter, The Man Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
People need to be properly guided.
Mar 26th 2020 at 5:43:18 PM

Yes there Tyk, now to keep the momentum going here's one of my own. Years ago I marked this guy down as a Politically Incorrect Villain but after a rewatch I'm not thinking that holds up:

What's the work?

Michiko & Hatchin is an episodic adventure anime and a surprisingly dark work for all the fun animation, music, colours and variety of characters. We follow rambunctious criminal and Anti-Hero Michiko as she breaks out of prison to pick up her maybe daughter Hatchin and the titular duo hunt down Michiko's ex and Hatchin's father Hiroshi across Diamandra.

Frequently a problem for them is the mighty Monstro Preto group, a powerful syndicate with many of the other gangs of Diamandra paying tribute to them. Their current leader and former best friend of Hiroshi is our man today: Satoshi Batista.

Who is Satoshi? What has he done?

Playing off the scheme of his sadistic right-hand man Shinsuke to have Michiko arrive at a train depot, Satoshi has her sent to him while he goes down to hunt down a retired Monstro boss who once humiliated a child Satoshi by making him piss himself and trying to cut off his feet. Killing the man's wife and son while forcing him to go pick up Michiko, Satoshi shoots him when he returns with Michiko, managing to disarm her even after Shinsuke had sent her with a pistol to kill Satoshi so that he might take over Monstro.

When Shinsuke allies his splinter faction with the Heike gang, Satoshi—even after being drugged by the Heike—manages to kill the men sent to kill him before interrogating a bartender who turned to Shinsuke for info and preparing against his traitorous former underling. While fleeing and coming down from the drugs, Satoshi runs into Hatchin and takes her with him as she promises to lead him to Hiroshi.

Coming across a town the younger Satoshi and Shinsuke had torn apart as youths, Satoshi and Hatchin hide in a hotel after Satoshi calls Shinsuke to lure him out. Even alone, Satoshi managers to outplay and kill all of Satoshi's men, before capturing his former friend and offering to let him go if he can survive 10 minutes with his head in a bucket of water (in reference to a method Shinsuke executed one of the town's gangsters years earlier)... when Shinsuke drowns, Satoshi merely laments his friend's greed leading to his betrayal and death.

In the next town over, Satoshi pays for information on Hiroshi's whereabouts... only to be double-crossed but maims and defeats the mobsters trying to kill them. After Hatchin flees from their hideout, Satoshi goes to find her but one of the thugs opens fire on them with a sniper rifle. Shielding Hatchin from a shot with his body, Satoshi begins to bleed out as Michiko grabs Hatchin on her bike and the duo flee. Satoshi dies in an alleyway, gunned down by the same gangsters while screaming he'll kill them all.

How do his actions and personality show he is a Magnificent Bastard?

When a kid, Satoshi is a big talker but quickly attains his lofty goals through ruthlessness and tactical brilliance, becoming the country's biggest gang leader which he maintains and even as internal and external threats encroach upon him, keeps his cool through till the end. Compared to Shinsuke he's also quite a Noble Demon, values his friendships and even keeps Hatchin safe as they travel together.

Mitigating factors?

Satoshi is not a nice man at all... while Affably Evil, he does execute not only the man who humiliated him as a kid but also his wife and child. In spite of this, Satoshi grows with Character Development, growing to bond with Hatchin on their brief travels together. He also cares for those who were ever his friend, missing Hiroshi and even saddened by having to kill the snivelling weasel that was Shinsuke.

He does drop a slur against the Heike ("Goddamn Peking duck!") but at this point he's under the influence of hallucinogenic drugs and focused angrily at the betrayal on his own territory thanks to Shinsuke and about to get into a gun fight. Additionally his gang looks multicultural and never does this come up again.

Verdict?

A case where I think a Villainous Underdog goes from a big-mouthed kid to a brilliant and dangerous yet noble crime lord. Keep, I say.

Pending MB writeups MB Drafts MB Dates
Mar 26th 2020 at 5:59:40 PM

'Yes' to Kitchen and Kamali and yeah, as we discussed? I think Satoshi Keeps.

PolarPhantom You can't hide Rey. Not from me. from Searching for Ben. Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
You can't hide Rey. Not from me.
Mar 26th 2020 at 6:08:13 PM
Thumped: This post has been thumped with the mod stick. This means knock it off.
Fuck JJ "Rey is a vessel and a conduit" Abrams.
43110 People need to be properly guided. from Jupiter, The Man Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
People need to be properly guided.
Mar 26th 2020 at 6:13:41 PM

Polar. Stop it. Please. This is not healthy. You've been on about this movie for three months. enough is enough.

It is a fictional film, it should not be this triggering to you to set you off every time something related to Star Wars is mentioned.

Edited by Lightysnake on Mar 26th 2020 at 6:17:13 AM

Scraggle Musha ring dum a doo dum a da from Calgary Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Musha ring dum a doo dum a da
Mar 26th 2020 at 6:15:59 PM

This is Single-Issue Wonk defined and it's not even tangentially related to the topic. Why do you keep posting Star Wars-related whinging in a thread that has nothing to do with your rants whatsoever?

Polar. Please move on. Keep the Star Wars stuff off the threads, please.

Anyway, a yes to Satoshi.

Edited by Scraggle on Mar 26th 2020 at 7:18:24 AM

There's whiskey in the jar-o
AustinDR Experience perfection. from Fresh and ready for life.
Experience perfection.
Mar 26th 2020 at 6:17:37 PM

Loved Michiko and Hatchin. [tup] Satoshi.

Why you little-!
43110 People need to be properly guided. from Jupiter, The Man Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
People need to be properly guided.
G-Editor Kevin Sucks Day from Honolulu, HI Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Kevin Sucks Day
Mar 26th 2020 at 6:22:40 PM

[tup] to Satoshi and Kamali. Say I wonder if Shinsuke could qualify as a Complete Monster?

Edited by G-Editor on Mar 26th 2020 at 3:26:49 AM

It's now an official holiday!
Mar 26th 2020 at 6:23:22 PM

Polar, you're entitled to your opinion, but there's a time and place to share it.

Complete Monster quotes cleanup
43110 People need to be properly guided. from Jupiter, The Man Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
People need to be properly guided.
Mar 26th 2020 at 6:25:43 PM

G... I wish because he's a nasty little piece of shit but given the people he tends to be are other gangsters and this is a show where everyone is up to something, I'm afraid to say he doesn't get any worse than a Hate Sink.

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nombretomado MOD the formatting mod from just kind of around Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
the formatting mod
Mar 26th 2020 at 6:29:52 PM

Try voting without the ranting, ~PolarPhantom.

SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from Nakatomi Plaza Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Draftsman of Doom
Mar 26th 2020 at 6:43:34 PM

...

[tup] Leo & Satoshi.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Mar 26th 2020 at 9:44:33 AM

Welcome to the party, pal!
Riley1sCool Still the best Star Wars villain. from On the planet. In space. Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
Mar 26th 2020 at 8:02:39 PM

Based on the EP, [tup] to Frank.

Polar reserved The Gentlemen months ago and he and I are in agreement about a candidate. He can get to it when he feels like it though. He has my full support.

Edited by futuremoviewriter on Mar 26th 2020 at 8:05:46 AM


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