"Moments" cleanup and maintenance (Awesome, Funny, Heartwarming, Shocking, Tear Jerker)

I like that revision. It's short and sweet and not bloated and overly detailed.

If there's no objections to the rewrite, should I or someone else make the replacement, then?

At least 3 of the examples on Awesome.Dragonball Evolution are meta examples.

• For all its faults, the choice of a Japanese singer for the theme song was one of the best decisions made, and lyrically "Rule" is just one big hint at What Could Have Been for the better.
• The fact that Akira Toriyama hated this movie so much, that he decided to continue working on Dragon Ball to redeem it. That's right, this movie gave us Dragon Ball Super!
• C'mon they only happened twice but it was AWESOME seeing Capsule Corp. stuff shrink and grow from tiny pellets to huge things.
• All scenes of Chi Chi fighting. She arguably kicks more ass in the movie than Goku does!
• If one has complaints about Piccolo, just remember that it was James Marsters that took a stand and kept Piccolo an alien rather than being a bishounen human.

Am I the only one who thinks this entry from TearJerker.Once Upon A Time could use a rewrite:

• Now knowing Ivy's true identity as Drizella, Lucy expresses hope that she can make a Heel–Face Turn... while she is in the middle of grieving her mother. When Ivy rejects her, Lucy tells her that she will never be with Henry and he'll be with Jacinda instead before storming off. Afterwards, Lucy calls Henry.

Maybe it is just me, but I can't really tell what is supposed to be sad here. Is it for Ivy or Lucy? Plus, it ends and is overall written very awkwardly in my opinion.

There's an Awesome.Theodore Roosevelt page. Is this allowed?

Awesome.Real Life is allowed. The man just happened to have a subpage. Whether the examples on the subpage are valid is a different matter, since this is related to politics.

I removed some meta examples from Death Battle's moment pages, citing this thread (some of them were originally two bullets).

TearJerker.Death Battle

• Danny Phantom vs. Jake Long: A bit of a meta example, but a good majority of the comments on the preview videos for both combatants amount to this: "It doesn't matter who wins the fight, either way our childhoods lose."

Awesome.Death Battle

• Meta example: After being accused of bias by fans due to the controversial Yang vs Tifa and Ruby vs Ragna, plus the rather tame death Weiss received against Mitsuru, Blake's incredibly gory death almost feels like they're proving themselves to the fans who may still be skeptical.
• Meta example with Yang vs. Bakugo as Bakugo won by .1 percent of the vote. Seeing as how controversial using RWBY characters are, this close race proves the staying power both characters and franchises have.

Heartwarming.Death Battle

• A meta one. In many Death Battle Cast episodes, Ben has always expressed his gratitude towards all the people who made Death Battle possible, including the Screwattack team, the research team, and the animators. For the way he says it, you know that he values all his working partners.
• A bit of a meta example, but during the tribute to Monty at the end, we see a dance party with several previous Death Battle contestants and others from their worlds all dancing and enjoying themselves, including villains like Boba and Deathstroke. It gives you the idea that in the end when all is said and done the contestants all get to enjoy themselves after their battles and just have a big party and fun with each other, no matter who wins or loses.
• Wolverine vs Raiden is one for meta reasons.
  • During Raiden's character breakdown, Wiz and Boomstick are polite and respectful towards Raiden's relationship with Rosemary and the two eventually having a son, with only a minor joke made about needing to ignore the points where Rosemary was a Double Reverse Quadruple Agent - considering how the Metal Gear fandom has had a dim view of Rosemary for her Heel–Face Revolving Door status, them simply cutting to the happy ending shows how both Raiden and Rosemary were able to get past their initial character flaws.
  • Raiden's got a rather infamous reputation as The Scrappy to many who've played the Metal Gear franchise. Despite this, the Death Battle team didn't really mock Raiden much, focusing more on his fan-favorite improved depiction as a Cyborg Ninja in Guns of the Patriots and Rising: Revengeance. They pointed out all of his achievements and took the time to explain, in detail, how Raiden ended up the winner. In addition, the team lists Raiden "surviving Sons of Liberty's mindfucking story" as one of his feats.
  • For those who feel that Death Battle is biased in the favor of American-created media (as shown by the fan outcry over Goku vs Superman), Raiden, a controversial character to many, was given a justifiable win against the popular Wolverine—and after a pitched, even battle which really could have gone either way. Still think the Death Battle team is biased?
• Deadpool vs. Pinkie Pie: A dual meta one: There was quite the broken base surrounding Deadpool Vs. Pinkie Pie, seeing as it's the Season 3 finale. Ben explained this as helping decrease Torrian's workload. The other heartwarming one? The people on the forum actually understood and gave Ben a break. These are the same people who will constantly deride an episode if they don't like the result and even gave very valid and accurate criticisms.
• Sub-Zero VS Glacius: A meta one but the entire reason this episode exists is not because it was heavily requested or because of its thematic connections but because Ben thought Nick would enjoy writing and researching a Killer Instinct character.
• On a meta level, many fans accepted Ben's apology over the fact that the team suffered a major Critical Research Failure with Android #18 since she wins anyway.
• A meta example, revealed during a Death Battle Cast leading up to the fight. When Nick, who wrote the episode, first joined Screwattack, Chad introduced him to fighting games with Street Fighter: 3rd Strike. Nick paid it forward when Torrian, who animated the fight, joined the team, teaching him how to play Killer Instinct. Directly or indirectly, both franchises played a huge role in introducing the creative team to fighting games, and when, for the first time in DB history, the two franchises collided in battle, both Nick and Torrian treated the fight as a passion project— and boy, does the final product show it. One could even say that, while one character inevitably had to die, it was fitting that it ended up being one of the closest fights to date.
• Meta Example: Booster Gold's title may be "The Greatest Hero You've Never Heard Of" In-Universe, but not for the fans. There are lots of YouTube commenters talking about memories they've had growing up, watching Booster Gold in Justice League and Batman: The Brave and the Bold. Booster Gold may be unheard of to the crowds in his world, but in the real world, he's a name many recognize from their childhoods.
• On a meta example, Shadow, one of the series' biggest jokes as a Memetic Loser, finally taking home a win. The third time really was the charm. It helps that after his first fight aged poorly due to being done so early into Death Battle's history and his second one was hurt by a very mediocre and short-changed animation, his clash with Ryūko became a quick contender for being one of the best fight animations in the show's history.
• A meta example: it was revealed in a Death Battle Cast episode that Po's voice actor, Austin Lee Matthews, not only does a spot-on impression of Jack Black-to the point that many people thought it was him — but considers Po his favorite character and had always wanted to voice him.
• Also one on a meta level. The losing side of a battle usually starts raging, both the fighters themselves and their fans. This fight? They put Saitama on the losing end of a fight because that would fulfill his biggest wish. The fight came out five days before Christmas, and Saitama got the best gift he could have asked for. There could be no better way to end Death Battle's tenth-anniversary season.
• Again on a Meta level, on twitter, the official Popeye account complimented Saitama, stating that he put up a good fight. It isn't too often that the official twitter of a franchise comments on an episode, but to see them giving kudos to the opponent is a very nice thing to see.
• On another Meta level, one user commented that due to Popeye being a cartoon and therefore, the laws of physics don't apply to him, he could just decide that he had fun with this fight, crack open the egg and Saitama would pop up alive and well, then they'd make this a weekly thing. Loser buys lunch.

Moments for Dwarf Fortress are almost all about player experiences, not actual, canon in-game stuff. Given how open-ended and procedurally-generated the game is, I'm not sure there could actually be any good examples on there at all.

I found this folder on Funny.Arrow:

Meta moments are not allowed on Funny pages correct? So am I goo to remove this folder?

Probably should.

Hi! So I asked on the discussion page about this from Succession, and got nothing so I'm coming here.

Kendall's take-down of Gil Eavis in "DC," which leads to a memetic moment of celebration from Connor. Kendall: Okay, you know what, I'm sorry. Madam Chairwoman, can I speak for a moment? Because you know, I'm here in good faith today, I'm very willing to talk you, Senator, and this committee through our operations, but let's cut the BS, shall we? Because it seems to me that this investigation is not about proper oversight of the cruise industry codes and standards, or some highly regrettable but isolated incidents from nearly two decades ago. What this feels to me it's about is your personal dislike of my father, and your ideological hatred of his newspapers and his news channels, and in particular, of the success story which is ATN, on which you've appeared, I think, fourteen times in the last four months, Senator. Senator Eavis, it seems to me that since you don't agree with us ideologically, that nothing we can say will be enough, no groveling will be low enough, and as much as you like to accuse us of bias, today, you're the one with the bias. So, I say go ahead. Hit us as hard as you can. We can take it. We have nothing to hide.

The reason I don't think this is an example is because aside from the fact he's trying to defend sexual abuse on the cruises that he knew about, Logan threw him under the bus and he passed daddy's boy test with flying colors.

Yeah I say cut.

Also from The Worst Witch:

• Bella Ramsey and Jenny Richardson's friendship◊. Even though Mildred and Ethel hate each other in the 2017 series, Bella and Jenny are super close when they aren't on the set. The chemistry between them is just adorable. Jenny to Bella is basically the friend that Mildred never had. One highlight of their friendship is when Jenny visits Bella after she left the series, after the show's third season, for a sleepover to celebrate the wrap of the fourth and final season and, at the same time, during the production of◊ Hilda and the Mountain King. Fans of Hilda, that also saw The Worst Witch, see Bella and Jenny as the real-life Hilda and Frida. Many fans argued that Jenny Richardson should have been casted as Maud.
  • During their appearance on Saturday Mashup, following Jenny's sliming at the end of the show, while Jonny and Yasmin bid the viewers farewell, Bella offers to help out Jenny by drying her with a towel, who accepts, though embarrassed. Prior to it, Bella actually felt relieved that she isn't picked to get slimed. Heck, Jenny even admitted that her character, Ethel, deserved to be slimed after treating Bella's character, Mildred, miserably on the actual show. And for the topping on the cake, just before Jenny leaves to get slimed, Bella and Jenny share a quick fist-bump.
  • Netflix and CBBC actually liked the friendship between the two so much, that they had a behind-the-scenes featurette featuring the dynamic duo. The highlight was the question, "Who are your closest friends in the cast?" Guess what the answer is...
    • Also, the fact that the title of the video at the start with it simply saying, "Bella & Jenny", basically foreshadowed the name of the future sitcom.
  • This "then & now" photo of Bella and Jenny◊, which had Bella during her time on the show and the present day photo was after Bella left production. Both photos had Bella and Jenny hugging each other.

This is a tree of meta moments. Which are not allowed. Am I good to cut?

Can all the meta moments on Awesome.Duck Tales 2017 be cut? They're ridiculously gushy and most are along the lines of "this character exists in the reboot and that's awesome!" or even "this show got another season and that's awesome!" and read more like And the Fandom Rejoiced instead. In fact they may be able to be moved there in some cases.

Probably should be removed.

Any opinions on the Worst Witch example I brought up above?

Yeah, it's not a moment in the work, so just cut.

And they are gone.

From TearJerker.Star Trek The Original Series:

• The deaths of so many Red Shirts. Yes, the death of Red Shirts was a Running Gag, but let's be honest: Some of these deaths were very heartbreaking. I don't think the redshirt deaths were ever played as a gag, but leaving that aside, I don't think they're developed enough for their deaths to be sad.
  • Poor Yeoman Thompson, the only female red shirt to die onscreen in TOS, who was turned into a mineral cube by Rojan and crushed in "By Any Other Name." Not sure.
  • The young engineer Harper who got vaporized by a plasma flow activated by M-5 to restore its power supply. The worst part is how Daystrom tried to rationalize it as Harper simply "getting in the way." That seems more disturbing than sad.
  • While it's not mentioned afterward (figures), the two security officers who got beamed into open space while Sulu and Chekov were under the induced illusion that the ship was still in orbit of a planet in "And the Children Shall Lead." Poor guys... I don't think they were ever stated to be Sulu and Chekov's friends...
  • The death of the man who was about to be married in "Balance of Terror" and his fiancée's reaction at the end of the episode, is probably the saddest one in the series. OK, I'll admit, THAT one was sad.
  • Galloway, the young man from "The Omega Glory" who was killed not by an enemy race or savage monster, but by a rogue Starfleet captain — one of his brothers-in-arms. Not sure if that's sad or just Fridge Horror.
  • Part of this is that, Running Gag it may have become, to Kirk, the fact that these crewmen died on his watch is clearly a personal failing—he may have saved the ship, but his role as captain is to protect those men and women under his command, so to him, not coming home with everyone means he still failed. Combine that with the number of crewmen killed during the series, and the poor captain seriously comes off as a Stoic Woobie. More Fridge Horror, and again, I don't think their deaths were meant to be a gag.

Definitely.

From Awesome.Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness:

• Fans get to see Charles in the iconic hoverchair from X-Men: The Animated Series! And Danny Elfman gives us the 90s music cue!

Does this read abnormally gushy to anyone else? Does this entry count as a meta moment? Because it feels like a meta moment to me, but I could be wrong. Maybe its because I just don't get how the chair is awesome or something (I have never watched the 90s), but I don't see how being like an old cartoon equals awesome.

Well, a hoverchair does sound awesome in concept, but it does feel more like And the Fandom Rejoiced.

So should it be moved to And the Fandom Rejoiced.

Edited by Bullman on May 10th 2022 at 11:29:36 AM

YMMV/Sirenhead has a Heartwarming Moment entry that sounds like it was probably written on opposite day:

• As Sirenhead cruelly points out, despite the horror of the situation, Freddy still tries to save his friends. Unfortunately, his friends were long dead before he even arrived, and he is unable to save himself.

The only part that is even remotely heartwarming is the "he still tried to save his friends" part (which may have been what the entry is going for), everything else is...not.

God,cut cut cut!

Cut it. It's not heartwarming in the slightest.