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An animated series from Vivienne Medrano, it follows the escapades of the princess of Hell as she tries to curb hell's overpopulation by creating the titular hotel to redeem souls and get them into heaven.

First trailer.

For discussion of Hazbin Hotel (2024) please go here.

Edited by Tabs on Oct 14th 2023 at 3:44:53 AM

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3276: Jul 14th 2023 at 10:21:35 PM

[up][up]It's almost as if Hell is considered a bad place for a reason...

Which is another reason why Earth being treated as full of Humans Are Bastards annoys me. There's a double standard where Earth being crappy is just part of the Black Comedy and meant to excuse the villain protagonists while Hell being crappy is lore-important and meant to explain why said protagonists have issues

Purgatoryisof2 Since: Aug, 2022
#3277: Jul 17th 2023 at 10:54:22 AM

Okay, I realized something.

If Asmodean crystals can be had by any succubi, how come Blitzo didn't just steal one from them? Especially since he'd remember the crystals over the grimoire far more due to dating Verosika recently instead of seeing Stolas 25 years before he went to get the grimoire.

ROTHY Dakini! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Dakini!
#3278: Jul 17th 2023 at 11:21:27 AM

I don't think Verosika would ever let Blitzo live their breakup down, and has told every succubus to never let anyone sell or lend him any crystals. Besides, they probably got Hell DRM or something.

"It's just like... a series of overlapping curses..." - Flower Knight Dakini
MagmaTeaMerry My Head Is On Fire from A forest somewhere Since: Sep, 2020
My Head Is On Fire
#3279: Jul 17th 2023 at 11:22:34 AM

[up][up] Also, Blitzo seems to be the type of person to have a one-track mind once he’s made up his mind, so if he’s decided that he needs that book, then maybe he decided to see his plan through no matter what?

(The boring Doylist answer is, of course, ”Because we need some reason for why some imp would have access to such an important magic artifact and not be all kinds of dead for stealing it”)

Edited by MagmaTeaMerry on Jul 17th 2023 at 8:24:23 PM

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ROTHY Dakini! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Dakini!
#3280: Jul 17th 2023 at 1:55:35 PM

Another explanation is that he probably could save up to buy some crystals, but he's very bad with money and won't stop blowing everyone's salaries on useless crap.

"It's just like... a series of overlapping curses..." - Flower Knight Dakini
Purgatoryisof2 Since: Aug, 2022
#3281: Jul 17th 2023 at 2:18:47 PM

Why not just steal a crystal then? He's obviously good with guns, he does it in this episode, and he wanted to steal the book.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3282: Jul 17th 2023 at 4:31:04 PM

Maybe Asmodean crystals require some sort of password-system unlike the Grimoire, and Blitzo can't get said password

Purgatoryisof2 Since: Aug, 2022
#3283: Jul 17th 2023 at 5:40:00 PM

So how'd he use one this episode?

ROTHY Dakini! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Dakini!
#3284: Jul 17th 2023 at 8:35:00 PM

He forced someone to use theirs, didn't he?

"It's just like... a series of overlapping curses..." - Flower Knight Dakini
Purgatoryisof2 Since: Aug, 2022
#3285: Jul 17th 2023 at 9:09:02 PM

Huh, checked, you're right.

Though that means Stolas can't lend him the crystal, only the book.

CountofBleck Starting to believe in himself from New Wirral (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#3286: Jul 25th 2023 at 1:18:25 PM

One of the reasons Loona was bitter in S2-2 was actually revealed in S1-8: she and Blitzo bonded there but a week or so later there was talk of replacing her. I know there was some chatter about how the order didnt make sensr but vivziepop seems to agree with this thread.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#3287: Jul 25th 2023 at 1:19:33 PM

Blitzo you idiot.

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neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
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#3288: Jul 25th 2023 at 1:47:07 PM

[up]Nothing new there.

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MagmaTeaMerry My Head Is On Fire from A forest somewhere Since: Sep, 2020
My Head Is On Fire
#3289: Jul 25th 2023 at 1:56:26 PM

[up][up][up] Makes sense to me.

In fact, them bonding in Queen Bee probably made the ”replace you” comment in Seeing Stars sting even worse. No wonder Loona got so pissed about it and kicked Blitzo in the nads after her talk with Octavia. Like, there’s still the Broken Aesop aspect of it, but with the context of the former, it’s still understandable.

So, Blitzo has had a Kick the Dog moment with Loona (No pun intended) first and Moxxie second so far this season. How long will it be before Millie is on the receiving end of one, you think?

Edited by MagmaTeaMerry on Jul 25th 2023 at 10:59:16 AM

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Elfkaiser Since: May, 2013
#3290: Jul 28th 2023 at 10:28:53 AM

Tweets from Viv talking about future episodes of Helluva Boss.

In them, she hopes to get at least two more episodes this year. According to her, this year hasn't been good so far for her but she feels that 2024 is gonna be "a real Hellaverse year" in her words.

She also mentions that the last two episodes of the year she hopes to deliver will both have Fizzaroli.

Edited by Elfkaiser on Jul 28th 2023 at 10:35:54 AM

Purgatoryisof2 Since: Aug, 2022
#3291: Jul 28th 2023 at 7:33:32 PM

Still feel the Seeing Stars plotline makes little sense with Queen Bee in mind. I guess what Viv said arguably makes it better for me, but not sure.

Also, interesting that they'll both have Fizz. Didn't expect that.

MrMediaGuy2 Since: Jun, 2015
#3292: Jul 30th 2023 at 2:13:54 PM

Viv did a tweet where she talked about the criticisms of her show feeling like a fanfic, and pointing out that it's deeply rooted in homophobia.

MagmaTeaMerry My Head Is On Fire from A forest somewhere Since: Sep, 2020
My Head Is On Fire
#3293: Jul 30th 2023 at 10:04:49 PM

Wait, the show as a whole or just the latest episode? Because that’s the only time I’ve personally seen that term, and that was in this thread and not really a criticism, at that. (Didn’t feel like one, anyway - It felt moreso like a description that other people might use) Then again, I’m not really active in the critic community, so…

… And we still live in an age where people use the term ”fanfic” almost exclusively as a negative term, huh? I’ve never understood why people act like a badly written work is somehow worse just because it’s a fanfic to the point where the word is basically only used to criticize something or insinuate that it’s bad.

Edited by MagmaTeaMerry on Jul 30th 2023 at 7:07:38 PM

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#3294: Jul 30th 2023 at 10:14:25 PM

Fan-fic is seen as terrible by default and people are ignorant.

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Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#3295: Jul 30th 2023 at 10:45:02 PM

I guarantee you the vast majority of people who use fanfic as an insult have never read one in their life.

Which is to say, yes, they're ignorant, and their willingness to run their mouth on things they don't actually understand is indicative of the value of their criticism (none).

Edited by Perseus on Jul 31st 2023 at 3:45:56 AM

Elfkaiser Since: May, 2013
#3296: Jul 31st 2023 at 10:33:44 AM

Tweet from Viv revealing the titles for the rest of Helluva Boss Season 2.

From the Tweet:

206: Oops🤡

207: MAMMON’S MAGNIFICENT MUSICAL MID-SEASON SPECIAL (ft Fizzarolli) 🎶

208: The Full Moon 🌕

209: Apology Tour 🍻

210: Ghostf**kers 👻

211: Mastermind 🔥

212: Sinsmas 😈

Edited by Elfkaiser on Jul 31st 2023 at 10:33:57 AM

Purgatoryisof2 Since: Aug, 2022
#3297: Jul 31st 2023 at 11:30:20 AM

These seem really interesting, especially Mastermind and Full Moon. Hope the former is about Andy and Striker, while the later is about Via and Loona.

Hyped for Mammon's special and Oops to.

Also, I was right about 6 being moved. 12 might've been moved as well.

MagmaTeaMerry My Head Is On Fire from A forest somewhere Since: Sep, 2020
My Head Is On Fire
#3298: Jul 31st 2023 at 2:31:09 PM

Apology Tour definitely has my interest piqued.

As does Sinsmas - So Hell does have its own version of Christmas, huh. I’m guessing Krampus is involved in some fashion, and I’d love to see the artists and animators go crazy with macabre and stunning visuals to go along with it!

Seeing Mammon in action so soon? Oh, this will be fun! I wonder if Viv did get Hugh Jackman to play him like she envisioned?

And Ghostfuckers for a Halloween episode. I wonder if we’ll see a return of D.H.O.R.K.S, or if we’ll just get some shenanigans with some other supernatural-investigating jackasses…

Edited by MagmaTeaMerry on Jul 31st 2023 at 11:33:42 AM

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#3299: Jul 31st 2023 at 2:33:26 PM

Have we gotten any news for Hazbin Hotel? It's the end of the month so we usually get something (and I can’t check Twitter).

Purgatoryisof2 Since: Aug, 2022
#3300: Jul 31st 2023 at 2:53:26 PM

[up] Not yet.

Also, thinking about it, feel Mastermind is about Striker and not Andrealphus, given the fire motif.


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