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FrozenWolf2 Horni Demon LORD from HORNI LAND Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Horni Demon LORD
#1876: Nov 5th 2019 at 9:31:44 AM

Clearly Goblin slayer is a commentary of the struggles of Cro Magnon versus Neanderthal man

I'm A Pervert not an Asshole!
doomrider7 Since: Jan, 2011
#1877: Nov 5th 2019 at 10:06:12 AM

Discussion still going? Here are a few hot takes I stole from people who better write shit that I made into a MAL blog post.

https://myanimelist.net/blog/doomrider7

https://myanimelist.net/blog/papsoshea

The second one is by a friend of mine and includes some shade thrown at Shield Hero free of charge.

Edit: Last link on topic.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Goblin_Slayer#Criticism

Edited by doomrider7 on Nov 5th 2019 at 1:33:12 PM

Zarastro Since: Sep, 2010
#1878: Nov 5th 2019 at 10:18:34 AM

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Additionally, the goblins' only known method of reproduction is impregnating females from other species. They literally can not exist without raping women of other species (well, unless there are women with very strange fetishes, but even then, they would hardly consent to living under those circumstances). The orcs in Lot R had no such needs (though I do believe that Tolkien gave us different explanations how orcs were originally created), so a peaceful coexistence should be theoretically possible of both sides were willing.

Goblins, as presented in GS are little more than parasites like the Guinea worm in the real world. They exist by causing human suffering and there has been so far no solution how they might coexist without said suffering. Their eradication would instead improve the life of everyone involved.

Personally, I would enjoy the story more if there were female goblins as well, because that would add a layer of grey to the actions of the protagonist. The other adventures only take on goblins for a reward, which means that those goblins already caused some damage, thus making it a case of self-defence. GS is the only one who goes out of his way to eradicate all goblins, even without a reward. Thus him exteeminating a nest that has not attacked anyone could have been a good sign for his ruthlessness. Alas, that is evidently not the story the author wants to tell.

Edited by Zarastro on Nov 5th 2019 at 7:19:06 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#1879: Nov 5th 2019 at 10:21:46 AM

[up][up] My apologies but I don't read anything written by someone from Myanimelist.

That place is a garbage heap of people.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#1880: Nov 5th 2019 at 10:25:26 AM

[up]x3 Okay, now I feel the need to ask: why are you still here?

You very clearly hate this series and you haven't done anything aside from copy-pasting other people without so much as bothering to summarize their points. Most of which aren't even knew: it's all stuff people were already talking about when the anime was airing.

You'd probably be a happier person by simply ignoring the existence of this series.

[up]MAL is a review agreggator site: whenever people post there they tend to do when their head is a bit hot, so to speak.

Point being try not to judge them so harshly. Most people there are probably way nicer elsewhere.

Edited by HailMuffins on Nov 5th 2019 at 3:32:40 PM

doomrider7 Since: Jan, 2011
#1881: Nov 5th 2019 at 10:36:52 AM
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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#1882: Nov 5th 2019 at 10:46:31 AM

Goblins are just your typical RPG mooks there to be killed. It's just so happens the DM is a bit of an edgelord.

On that point, GS is a good representation of a certain segment of RPG players, especially with the approach to combat.

Aquaconda Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#1883: Nov 5th 2019 at 10:49:30 AM

I feel like a lot of Goblin Slayerds flaws wouldn't be as pronounced if it took itself less seriously.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1884: Nov 5th 2019 at 11:06:37 AM

The premise already sounds like a good comedy show, so you aren't wrong there.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#1885: Nov 5th 2019 at 11:06:50 AM

GS is the only one who goes out of his way to eradicate all goblins, even without a reward. Thus him exteeminating a nest that has not attacked anyone could have been a good sign for his ruthlessness.

He doesn't do that though. He takes on Goblin Extermination jobs. He doesn't do it for free.

And the only reason anyone even finds out about a Goblin Nest is because an attack happened. Goblins don't just mind their own business.

Disgusted, but not surprised
wassboss Since: Mar, 2019
#1886: Nov 5th 2019 at 11:12:55 AM

I always found the problem with Goblin Slayer was not the parts where he's killing goblins. Rather it's all the time they spend not doing that for boring stuff like wandering around towns or building up his harem.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#1887: Nov 5th 2019 at 11:14:39 AM

The harem stuff more or less stops after Sword Maiden's introduction. No other new female character introduced after her falls for GS.

Edited by M84 on Nov 6th 2019 at 3:15:19 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#1888: Nov 5th 2019 at 11:17:40 AM

The SOL stuff is necessary because if the series was literally only goblin slaying, all the time, it would get exhausting quickly.

Pacing, you see.

Besides, Goblin Slayer's primary arc is him letting go of his obsession a bit and learning how to enjoy life more, so the author needs to show what the man has been losing by hyperfocusing on his crusade for so long and how he unintentionally makes himself miserable.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#1889: Nov 5th 2019 at 11:19:00 AM

Yeah, the series makes a point of showing that GS' whole Goblin Slaying thing is not a good thing for him.

Disgusted, but not surprised
doomrider7 Since: Jan, 2011
#1890: Nov 5th 2019 at 11:20:13 AM

@Aquaconda

@Very Melon

This got brought up a few times that if you just went ahead and sanded off the edgelord crap and upped the campiness, it would actually be pretty good. Like, a sort of inverse of "Goblin is Very Strong" or something.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1891: Nov 5th 2019 at 11:31:34 AM

I'll go a step further and say the slice of life parts are the only interesting or good things about the series. There's only so many ways you can talk about or show Goblins getting killed before it loses it's appeal, but social interaction is limitless.

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#1892: Nov 5th 2019 at 11:33:50 AM

I like GS for the developing relationships between our cast, not necessarily for the combat

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#1893: Nov 5th 2019 at 11:41:01 AM

I like the combat because of its Punisher-esque nature of seeing the protag abusing the rules to massacre stuff in imaginative ways.

It reminds of that writing advice Brandon Sanderson (of Mistborn fame) once said: "solving a problem with magic should only be done if the audience understands that magic".

Well, Goblin Slayer's ruleset is about as simple as it gets.

Reminds me a bit of the early days of Naruto, before the series deteriorated into "whoever makes the biggest explosion wins".

Which can be fun, mind you. Just not the way Naruto did it.

Edited by HailMuffins on Nov 5th 2019 at 4:43:35 PM

Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#1894: Nov 5th 2019 at 11:43:07 AM

GS approach to social interaction is like the player who skips dialogues and cut scenes so they can get to the action faster.

Which is a good thing, because the action is great. Water Town arc was pretty much perfect.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#1895: Nov 5th 2019 at 5:46:39 PM

[up][up]It helps that GS and his allies aren't powerful enough to do any of that. That's more Chosen Heroine and her party's thing.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#1896: Dec 28th 2019 at 9:13:25 AM

Chapter 43 is up. The previous group of adventurers tried to siege the goblins, which is a bizarre tactical choice and bled a lot of supplies from the town. And it looks like a goblin who survived a previous raid kept an arrow he was shot with and has taught this nest how to make better ones.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1897: Dec 28th 2019 at 9:26:20 AM

Didn't think you'd be a fan of Goblin Slayer Discar.

Edited by VeryMelon on Dec 28th 2019 at 9:30:50 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#1898: Dec 28th 2019 at 10:55:06 AM

[up]That's my reaction to most of the fans of Goblin Slayer in the fora.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#1899: Dec 28th 2019 at 1:45:05 PM

I mean, it's not my favorite, but I enjoy it well enough. I haven't even bothered to watch the anime.

And I've posted here before.

theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world Since: Jul, 2009
That all you got?
#1900: Dec 28th 2019 at 3:25:15 PM

I need to get back into reading the manga. I stopped because of a lack of updates.

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.

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