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danime91 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Oct 10th 2018 at 12:21:45 PM

Illusion clearly has to get a new set of dice, though. The ones she's using now are cursed with bad rolls. I've had a few sets like that.

firewriter Bulla to Earthlings, Echalote to Saiyans.
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Oct 10th 2018 at 1:39:31 PM

I wonder if there is a god/goddess in this world called Chaos.

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danime91 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Oct 10th 2018 at 2:55:33 PM

I believe it was mentioned that Chaos and Order exist on the same meta level as Truth and Illusion. They're all wrapped up in their own games, though, apparently.

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Oct 10th 2018 at 4:43:46 PM

wild mass guess Chaos and Order are playing Isekai LN campaigns wild mass guess tongue

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MyssaRei Moderate Haruhiist from Manila Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
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Oct 10th 2018 at 5:13:02 PM

Goblin Slayer is essentially that one NPC in tabletop games that never NEVER conforms to expectations (and doggedly refuses to die) regardless of how the DM rigs the campaign.

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Oct 10th 2018 at 5:57:56 PM

Sounds like it be either really annoying or really entertaining

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Oct 10th 2018 at 7:37:35 PM

Hence why the GM is annoyed and the Player is amused [lol]

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M84 Freedom is the right of all sentient beings Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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Oct 10th 2018 at 9:11:08 PM

It is implied they used to engage with the world and each other in more direct conflict. The tabletop games are just how they have decided to handle things now to keep their conflicts from being too destructive.

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SpookyMask Insert title from Corner in round room Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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Oct 10th 2018 at 9:14:29 PM

I was under impression it was more that they got bored of fighting each other so decided to move onto games

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firewriter Bulla to Earthlings, Echalote to Saiyans.
Bulla to Earthlings, Echalote to Saiyans.
Oct 10th 2018 at 9:19:55 PM

Maybe the God of Chaos is the reason why the goblins in this universe are Always Chaotic Evil.

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M84 Freedom is the right of all sentient beings Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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Oct 10th 2018 at 10:13:40 PM

This is also why the world is so crapsack. A happy peaceful world makes for a boring campaign setting.

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firewriter Bulla to Earthlings, Echalote to Saiyans.
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Oct 10th 2018 at 11:03:39 PM

Crapsaccharine World settings our my preference, because it always is a good surprise to make a perfectly nice place revealed to be rotten to it's core. It's kind of why I love One Piece.

It would naturally be fitting if the God of Chaos tried to have a whole race he wanted to be inherently chaotically evil.

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Oct 11th 2018 at 12:17:12 AM

Umm, bit confused why are you twice trying to impose god of Chaos existing in the works ._.

Can't find mention of other same meta level gods as those two existing, but wouldn't be surprised if they are all dualistic concepts. Either way, setting itself is one gm one player session

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TerminusEst from Finland
Oct 11th 2018 at 12:45:25 AM

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That maybe on Truth, who didn't like the idea of a happy-go-lucky world.

The manga had an early chapter that showed other figures besides Truth and Illusion, but doing something else IIRC.

Edited by TerminusEst on Oct 11th 2018 at 12:50:13 PM

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firewriter Bulla to Earthlings, Echalote to Saiyans.
Bulla to Earthlings, Echalote to Saiyans.
Oct 11th 2018 at 2:08:59 AM

One thing I note are goblins are capable of critical thought, especially the shaman type. They are capable of feeling emotion, especially negative ones. I do think there is something going on a cosmic scale of why goblins are like this. I think it would be a good waste not to go all the way when deconstructing certain fantasy tropes like Always Chaotic Evil. However, I think the way this series could deconstruct it is that yes all goblins in this setting are evil, but it's due to deities making them that way for their own purpose. It could show that they were robbed of a choice to be good, and have to by default be evil.

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M84 Freedom is the right of all sentient beings Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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Oct 11th 2018 at 2:30:28 AM

It's already been explained. GS at least believes it's a Cycle of Revenge that has gone on for far too long. Maybe it'd be possible to end the cycle with mercy...but considering every attempt to be nice or merciful to goblins has ended with the merciful adventurer being killed or worse by said goblins, it's not feasible.

Vol. 1's Goblin Lord in particular has been exploiting the mercy of female adventurers since his childhood — his first victim was an adventurer who let him go when he was a child and turned her back on him. He immediately bashed her head in with a rock.

GS is aware of this, which is why he doesn't hesitate to kill goblin children. One has to wonder what he witnessed or endured to learn that lesson — remember that everything he knows about goblins and how to deal with them comes from harsh experience.

Edited by M84 on Oct 11th 2018 at 5:35:00 PM

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firewriter Bulla to Earthlings, Echalote to Saiyans.
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Oct 11th 2018 at 2:37:20 AM

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The Cycle of Revenge doesn't in my mind explain everything. It doesn't explain why every Goblin is inherently vile from birth. In my mind, there has gotta be a cosmic explanation for their over the top evil nature and not just the explanation that GS gives.

All the other races shown so far have the ability to choose right and wrong, but Goblins by their nature will always choose evil.

Edited by firewriter on Oct 11th 2018 at 2:38:49 AM

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M84 Freedom is the right of all sentient beings Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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Oct 11th 2018 at 2:43:12 AM

Goblins learn very quickly. Add that to the circumstances of their birth, and whatever counts for upbringing among goblins...

Goblins are taught almost immediately from birth that they are part of a vicious cycle which pits them against everyone else.

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Oct 11th 2018 at 2:43:58 AM

Constant warfare combined with a hostile environment.

Evolution has worked wonders. tongue

M84 Freedom is the right of all sentient beings Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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Oct 11th 2018 at 2:44:55 AM

Goblins that are not vicious little monsters would likely not last long enough to matter.

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firewriter Bulla to Earthlings, Echalote to Saiyans.
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Oct 11th 2018 at 2:49:25 AM

It just in my eyes, they seem less part of a vicious cycle but they have something in their nature that strips them even of the ability to be good at all. Like even if they are apart of a vicious cycle, they should have the ability to make moral choices or have a culture of their own which they lack in comparisons with other races shown so far.

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Oct 11th 2018 at 2:52:17 AM

Again evolution.

They have a natural inclination to commit acts of violence the same way a bee has a natural inclination to sting someone who hes too close to the hive.

I mean if a child is clever enough & brutal enough to kill intelligentlly then goblins are natural born killers.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 11th 2018 at 2:57:16 AM

M84 Freedom is the right of all sentient beings Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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Oct 11th 2018 at 3:03:49 AM

Things are as bad as they are now because the whole "Goblins raid a village, adventurers slaughter the nest but miss one or two goblins, and the survivors start new nests even more hateful towards other races and start raiding villages..." cycle has been going on for a long time.

GS is part of the cycle too, but he's also very thorough when it comes ensuring there are no survivors. Hence the goblin children slaughter.

Edited by M84 on Oct 11th 2018 at 6:03:51 PM

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Ikedatakeshi God of Worf from singapore Relationship Status: Singularity
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Oct 11th 2018 at 4:26:45 AM

That cycle had to start somewhere, and since the races are probably created by the gods, the first goblins would probably soon realize they can't reproduce and went to raping other races. Pair that up with unnatural aggression and learning and maturing quickly and you get a never-ending cycle.

Also, [up][up], false equivalence. Bees being aggressive against anything they think is attacking their hives makes sense. Goblins evolving to be naturally antagonistic to all races and have the most impractical form of reproduction is a one-way ticket to extinction.

Edited by Ikedatakeshi on Oct 11th 2018 at 7:27:53 PM

M84 Freedom is the right of all sentient beings Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Freedom is the right of all sentient beings
Oct 11th 2018 at 5:22:04 AM

The history of evolution is full of species who went extinct due to long term issues with the way their species developed.

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