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PizzaDog11 Pizza is my business from closer than you think Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
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May 22nd 2018 at 5:52:48 PM

Can't say for sure if he has a history of it, but Blackheart getting taken down by one of Miles Morales' zaps puts him up there with the jobbingest jobs who ever jobbed.

TheEvilDrBolty Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
May 23rd 2018 at 6:12:17 PM

They've been mentioned a few times, but the Wrecking Crew's status just annoys me. There's actually quite a bit of mileage you could get out of small-minded thugs with godlike power - they are easily motivated and can potentially cause truly catastrophic damage - but they now exist solely for various heroes to be able to say that they've beaten up a Thor villain.

CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
May 23rd 2018 at 6:16:50 PM

Thunderball has had a somewhat ongoing character arc through the Illuminati reboot and the New Avengers appearances.

Basically, he has a couple of conversations with (sadly) white supervillains who asks why a man with a f***ing PHD in physics and engineering as well as Thor level power is working as not even the leader of a group like the Wrecking Crew but one of its minor members.

So he's set out on his own.

edited 23rd May '18 6:17:24 PM by CharlesPhipps

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BigK1337 Comedic Super Troper from Detroit Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
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May 24th 2018 at 4:25:18 PM

Yeah its basically a common trope for Marvel to have OP as fuck villains who are treated as minor nuisance rather than a major threat. Mostly due to them lacking any imagination or motivation to using their powers to their fullest.

This includes:

  • Molecule Man (a guy who can manipulate all matter but just use his powers to get back at people)
  • Sandman (a guy who can manipulate and replicate his own silicons is just a bank robber)
  • Wrecking Crew (four dudes who each have the quarter powers to basically beat Thor are the One Man Gang of the Marvel Universe)
  • Electro (a guy with electrical powers whose inferiority complex prevents him from actually being a bigger villain than he should be)
  • Graviton (pretty much Avenger’s Magneto but lack any villainous motivation to be a threat . . . hell the Thunderbolts called him out on that as a way to defeat him)
  • Baron Heinrich Zemo (sure he’s leader of the original Masters of Evil, a brilliant scientist, “killed” Bucky and is a Nazi but if you think about it his blind vengence for Captain America hinders his goals for world conquest. Hell this is why his son Helmut Zemo is a bigger threat than him as he can at least put aside his thirst for vengence to make sure his plans go off without a hitch).

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May 24th 2018 at 11:43:17 PM

Heinrich to be fair, had a very short career. In Silver Age, even Dr. Doom spend all his time trying to kill Fantastic Four about 8 times before stealing Surfer's power. And I believe with Secret Wars, Molecule Man wasting his powers became an important part of the character (Not to mention necessary. I mean, who could possibly stop him?)

Jun 2nd 2018 at 1:47:50 PM

Actually, I wouldn't say it's at all unrealistic to have villains with massive powers be essentially jobbers. It's a pretty accurate depiction of human nature, what you get if you combine awesome power with very little intelligence, imagination, or ambition. In his run on Gen 13 Adam Warren introduced a bunch of super-powered slackers on one occasion, one of whom justified his slackitude by saying that he'd much rather use his powers to give himself a 5-hour psychic orgasm than to get his ass beat by a bunch of super-heroes. The Parasite and Doctor Light (classic version, pre Identity Crisis) were like this, too; they possessed awesome powers, but the best they could think to do with them was essentially rob banks.

I'll agree, though, Thunderball never really made much sense. I'd see him doing nothing at all with his powers before I'd see him realistically being on the Wrecking Crew (unless he's got some compelling reason to be with them that I don't know about).

Jun 2nd 2018 at 1:50:50 PM

Classic Dr Light once captured the Justice League and almost took over the world. if anything, it's post-Identity Crisis Dr Light that is lacking in imagination.

BigK1337 Comedic Super Troper from Detroit Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
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Jun 3rd 2018 at 12:10:12 AM

[up] Yeah for like his debut issue. After that he is at best a competant lackey for the Bigger Bad and at worst basically Cobra Commander . . . cartoon Cobra Commander, the comics one is actually threatening.

But yeah the post Identity Crisis Light does suck. At least jobber villain Light actually does some legitimate villain stuff that made him a legimate menace for the heroes to deal with. All Identity Crisis does is boast about how much he enjoys rape, and that’s it. And I recall in the DC forum topic as to how we talked about Rapist Light being nothing but bark.

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