Solo: A Star Wars Story

Yeah, the original intend of the scene was that Han was spouting impressive-sounding but meaningless nonsense in hopes Obi-Wan would take the bait. The elaborate retcon of what he really meant was unnecessary.

Han bullshitting also makes a lot more sense for his character and the scene in general. The EU had a habit of trying to formulate an explanation for everything.

edited 10th Apr '18 8:11:54 PM by KnownUnknown

I think that was more to mollify the humorless freaks who insisted that it was poor writing or Writers Cannot Do Math that led to that statement.

To be fair, the overlap between "humorless freaks" and "Star Wars fans" is quite a broad one

As Obi Wan is a capable pilot himself, he should had known Han was spouting nonsense. The original intent will not fit in the rest of the story.

He does know - check the look on his face.

Look, if y'all are going to start murdering each other, I am relatively certain that this thread is going to get locked down as well. Edit: I got distracted halfway through this post so this is completely divorced from the original context, but whatever.

We've already got sound in space and asteroid fields that don't make sense, so I'm not really sure why whether or not anyone's using the term 'parsec' correctly is such a big thing.

edited 10th Apr '18 8:33:24 PM by Pseudopartition

NVM

edited 10th Apr '18 8:35:19 PM by KnownUnknown

I think they're referring to me joking about accidentally shooting someone at the end of the last page.

Nah, I was making a reference to the meme "No one hates Star Wars like a Star Wars fan". Sorry if I came across as confrontational.

Just to be clear, it was a joke. I do not consider any of you humorless or freaks/

edited 10th Apr '18 8:41:39 PM by blkwhtrbbt

Well, I like to think that I am not the first, at least.

I liked the EU version where Kessel is surrounded by black holes and shorter routes mean you get closer to the black holes thus taking the same amount of time but you are fucking nuts for doing it closer since you are basically playing chicken with a black hole.

And so we've come full circle. End scene.

Agreed. I was going to ask why people hated the explanation we got, but I'm happy people don't actually hate it. Used to be if you did mention it, you got people riled up hating on it.

Han completely made up the whole thing off the top of his head, but by sheer astonishing co-incidence, there actually was a Kessel Run out there which could be measured in parsecs thanks to a series of black holes.

Beautiful, textbook Golden Mean Fallacy. Love it

If he was making it up, then Obi Wan likely would have realized that (being an experienced pilot himself and all).

In the script he did, and arguably in the movie as well. Obi-Wan is to react to his line with eye-rolly exasperation.

Obi-Wan wasn't there to find the best pilot in the galaxy, so Han bullshitting about his feats didn't matter. He was there to find a ride from Point A to Point B, no questions asked.

edited 11th Apr '18 5:48:43 AM by KnownUnknown

So, this is going to be about Han Solo doing something badass.

This is both necessary for this movie to be well-received and incredibly awesome-sounding, because if Han Solo wasn't doing something badass that relates to his character in a familiar way, instead of coming up with some brand new adventure completely irrelevant to everything Han would later do, then I wouldn't see any point in this movie existing.

That garbage about how The Last Jedi "killed" the franchise has already removed two other previous Star Wars film threads, can we please not do it to a third?

edited 11th Apr '18 2:23:27 PM by theLibrarian

I doubt this is going to be about the Kessel Run, badass or not. This seems like a story over a long period of time, after all.

Literally nobody but you has even mentioned that this page. I think it's safe to say no-one's going to light that fire unless they're reacting to you.

Well if the Kessel Run is just part of the Cold Opening, or if it's a mid-movie action sequence where Han earns the Falcon or something, or if it's just a Noodle Incident that gets mentioned before the credits, I say the movie's better for it.

I had a spec a page or so ago that the Kessel Run would be something that happens earlier in the movie, and that Han's character development would show in how he deals with it.

Earlier on it would be just another thing he did on his quest for vengeance or whatever he's up to, and impressive or not he wouldn't care much about it or anything else he does while being a smuggler. By the end, after character development, he'll have embraced the smuggler's lifestyle and we see him as he is in the first movie, embellishing the story and bragging about it.

I wonder how they'd depict the Kessel Run in a way that's cinematically exciting. All the other trips through hyperspace in Star Wars have largely left the details in the background.

This movie looks really lame.

I don't think I'll be seeing it in movie theatres.