Sleepless Domain

I kinda get how Cassidy is acting at this point, though I don't think she's right. Once you're already angry and worked up it can be really hard to step back and think about how you're acting. Or think about anything other than "I'm angry!" at all, really.

Cassidy's probably just gonna be a big jerk and this might even be the last we see of her (I can't see her not getting kicked out of the team for this, maybe even dying since she's been established as hard to kill), but I hope the idea of suspicion continues to plague Undine since it's really interesting.

I don't think she'll die and I doubt this will be the last we see of her, but she's very likely to be excused from the club, yeah.

At this point, I'll be a bit amazed if she isn't. Bud's in Tranquil Fury mode, Vedika has seen her concerns about Undine bottling up her emotions get twisted into an excuse to attack her, Harley looks like she's on the verge of giving her a good thrashing. And when HP finds out...?

At best, she might be put on temporary probation. Emotions are running high right now, and they might want to wait on a permanent decision, since kicking her out entirely here and now is just going to foster more resentment. Something along the lines of "You're out for [insert moderate period of time] until you get your head back on straight and stop flinging around wild accusations." Even then, though, I feel Cassidy's likely to blame Undine for everything. And possibly spread her poisonous theories around the school, if she hasn't been doing so already.

As wrong as she is right now, Cassidy is still Vedika's best friend. I doubt that they're all going to just drop her without trying to talk first. I expect that they're going to demand an apology, Cassie will refuse, and then she'll either get turned by Goops or killed (or possibly nearly killed and rescued by Undine, or her teammates are).

Although, imagine the delicious irony if she's the Sacrificial Lion who gets killed by the inevitable Dark Magical Girl Tessa.

Edited by IniuriaTalis on Feb 27th 2020 at 10:18:51 AM

Any reason why? Even if it was hinted Undine forgot something about that night, we do know for a fact she did not kill her team. What does her thinking "oh wait maybe I did" or "people will just think I killed them myself" bring to the table, except perhaps drive her to Goops?

I have to agree. Cassidy confronting Undine has been interesting thus far, but if this extends for longer than that it has the potential of becoming really annoying. There's no reason to go that route, and if that was the intention, I think we would have seen something come up already within the rest of the school.

Yep perfectly agree about the school. Cassidy accusing her worked so well^note my problem with her attitude stemmed more from not really being capable of putting aside the fact that as readers we know she is wrong, plus the timeline I already brought up, than anything in part because nobody else showed signs of thinking Undine is the killer.

Edited by akanesarumara on Feb 28th 2020 at 11:00:46 AM

New comic: https://www.sleeplessdomain.com/comic/chapter-14-page-33

Ok this is probably bringing back all sorts of bad memories for Undine about that last fight the day Tessa decided to skip patrol for just one day...

Any reason why? Even if it was hinted Undine forgot something about that night, we do know for a fact she did not kill her team. What does her thinking "oh wait maybe I did" or "people will just think I killed them myself" bring to the table, except perhaps drive her to Goops?

Not that, but rather that there are other people suspicious of Undine.

In-universe, it's been weeks, if not months. If people were suspicious, we would have found out already and Undine would have probably been arrested. As we, as readers, know at least that she didn't do it, I unfortunately have a hard time seeing how suddenly having people doubt her after all this time could be used well.

Edited by akanesarumara on Feb 28th 2020 at 2:37:14 PM

You're acting like "there's a suspicion Undine may have done it" means "literally everyone thinks she did."

Besides I like it more than "actually it's just because Cassidy is jealous."

I think you're overthinking the idea. I was interpreting it as suspicions of Undine would be limited to school scuttlebutt and angry hp fans ( like Cassidy). Nothing so formal as a proper investigation.

"Cassidy is jealous" is the simplest explanation, and goes well with the fan letters from the start of the chapter as foreshadowing this.

Edited by sgamer82 on Feb 28th 2020 at 6:47:38 AM

and Sorry if it came off as that way. What I meant was that killing 3 girls is a pretty serious suspicion/accusation: people would act on it (as Cassidy has), at least enough to try to take in Undine for questioning. Remember, they let her out of the hospital almost right away.

Yet Cassidy is the only one who, however covertly, even asks about the subject.

Edited by akanesarumara on Feb 28th 2020 at 2:51:58 PM

Cassidy hasn't actually accused Undine of actively murdering the rest of Alchemical. In fact I recently corrected that on a few pages. She is suggesting Undine was somehow responsible and that whatever she did well get hp killed too.

She didn't say the words "I think you killed them", true, but the implication is pretty strong.

And implication is what it shall remain until Cassidy says the words "you murdered them". Until then it's speculation that's what she means. When confronted, even Cassidy herself said she's not sure what she believes happened.

Also I'm thinking that when Heartful Punch finds out what's going on she's going to tell Cassidy that she knows it story and ask if Cassidy trusts her, prompting a weird kind of one person Friend-or-Idol Decision.

In Cassidy's case, true. However, if the police shared the same suspicions Cassidy has, or if someone who shared the same suspicions shared them with the police, the police probably would have investigated it.

Hell, they might have investigated at least enough to rule out foul play anyways, for all we know.

Also, as I mentioned, Cassidy is the only one who said even this much. Unless proven otherwise, I am willing to buy "Cassidy is only having these thoughts because she is jealous (possibly also related to previous, yet-unknown-by-us trauma in Team Flash)".

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Edited by akanesarumara on Feb 28th 2020 at 4:05:27 PM

For all we know, this whole thing doesn't extend beyond Cassidy.

Given that the fan letters came up, remember that her manager mentioned that all of her fanmail has been vetted. So it's not completely outside the boundaries of reason that there's some other jackasses out there who are all "Hmm, that girl's been dealing with what happened to the rest of her team far too well for my tastes... Time to harass a teenager for not being openly traumatized enough!" Or simply blaming her because she wasn't their favorite member, and if the whole team was going to be wiped out, she's not the one they would have picked to survive. They just haven't been able to reach her because her management team has been doing their job and keeping an eye out for cranks like that.

But yeah, if that theory had any kind of traction with authorities, we likely would have seen some sign of that by now. There may be others out there who think something's hinky about the whole thing, or resent that Undine was the only one that made it out, but I doubt there's any sort of 'silent majority sits in judgment' sort of thing.

Now I'm wondering if Undine is about to try and argue in Cassidy's defense just to try and repair the rift she can see opening up. Like akanesarumara pointed out, this may be triggering bad memories, and she doesn't want to see her split off...

Yeah, I'm kind of anticipating an "EVERYONE PLEASE JUST STOP!" outburst in a moment, possibly with a big splash.

But then, I've been wrong in my predictions many times in the past. I wonder when/if HP will show up...

Imagine if she shows up all psyched up and ready to ask Undine to make their partnership official...

On the subject of authorities not doing anything against Undine: I wouldn't be surprised if being a Magical Girl got you an automatic pass from legal troubles, because they're the idealized heroes who are supposed to be perfect. If Kokoro's mom has her pregnancy hidden because the public can't know that teenage Magical Girls gasp have sex, imagine how much the government wouldn't want to admit that one could commit a murder.

Again, I reiterate: we've seen wanted posters for a magical girl. Even if it was a gag, it still established that there are some limits to what magical girls can get away with.